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#1 Posted : 6/1/2012 6:46:35 PM

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Hi all,

for a while now my trips have been becoming significantly longer each time when partaking in LSD, mushrooms and anything else that IS NOT DMT. DMT seems to stay the same.

But for example I am now at a point where it is not uncommon for LSD trips to last 20 hours. (marquis regent tested, don't give me any RC talk)

And for mushrooms trips to sometimes go 10-15 hrs (no MAOI).

Is this common, does anyone else experience longer than average trips on said substances? Is there any reason for this or just chance?

 

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#2 Posted : 6/1/2012 6:53:51 PM

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Wow. I get the usualy 3-4 hours off 2 grams 4-6 hours off 3.5 grams.

What are the doses you are taking that last that long? How many times have you taken doses of the same size and noticed a difference in elapse of time?

Can you provide an easy to read format containing details?

Like:

Shrooms
Dose size time elapsed
3gm 8 hrs
4gm 9 hrs

So on and so forth...
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#3 Posted : 6/1/2012 6:58:12 PM

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My latest was 1.7 grams of cubes which put me out for 15 hrs and it only subsided because I took a xanex and went to bed. Who knows how long I would have kept going at that point Rolling eyes

I'm not positive about my LSD dosage because.. yeah idk the lab person. But half a tab to 1 tab will last 18-22. Usually 20.

I've taken dosages in that range for a while now and every time I do so the length just seems to extend, it's been around..er..40 trips between the two?
 
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#4 Posted : 6/1/2012 7:03:42 PM

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1.7 grams made you fry for 15hrs? IME thats insane. How strong was the trip? How long till it kicked in and how long was the peak?

I've taken 3.5 grams before that only lasted 5 hrs but was a strong visual and mental trip.
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#5 Posted : 6/1/2012 7:07:49 PM

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anrchy wrote:
1.7 grams made you fry for 15hrs? IME thats insane. How strong was the trip? How long till it kicked in and how long was the peak?

I've taken 3.5 grams before that only lasted 5 hrs but was a strong visual and mental trip.


It wasn't breakthrough status but I had angel entity contact on the come-up and a VERY intense peak where I cried a lot..hehe Love

It kicked in after 15-20 minutes and the peak was um.. at least an hour.

I wrote a little report here:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...spx?g=posts&t=31685

It's a poor report because I wrote it on the tail end of the trip (11 hrs in) and wasn't really in the headspace to be writing, was still in awe Laughing
 
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#6 Posted : 6/1/2012 7:14:30 PM

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Do you know what strain? You had visual hallucinations that strong on 1.7 grams?

So your peak only last an hour, how strong were you feeling it off the peak? How did the peak work? like a roller coaster or like a mountain? Thats how i describe peaks, sounds kinda silly.
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#7 Posted : 6/1/2012 7:20:44 PM

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Don't know the strain, but they were definitely cubenesis not cyans.

Um it basically went come up for 2 hrs, first peak for an hour then still going strong but less than ANOTHER peak (the highest peak lol) for another hour. Then like 10 more hours of just "regular" tripping where I was having obscure thoughts, visions, etc. You know the deal with that.
 
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#8 Posted : 6/1/2012 7:25:37 PM

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wow man thats amazing. I kinda hope that doesnt happen to me. I dont want to plan for 4 hours and end up calling in sick to work while frying. Maybe you've acquired a sensitivity to them. I have had decent trips on 1.8 grams but nothing like your explaining. 10 minutes to kick in, roller coaster peak, equally as strong each time, for 3.5 hrs. Come down 30 minutes. Some visuals, shadows visibly moving, ground lifting, sparkly diamond crust on grass ect.

Sorry to hijack this thread, I actually have nothing to offer your actual questions.
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#9 Posted : 6/1/2012 7:31:52 PM

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Were all here to learn man don't be sorry. Yes at first I wasn't happy about it because I was *planning* my day after or before indulging *thinking* I would be done at x time. But now I've come to realize that tripping on anything, anything at all, just commit the whole day to it. Doesn't hurt to have the next day off as well.
 
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#10 Posted : 6/1/2012 7:40:41 PM

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Ya i definitely like to have the next day off if at all possible. I get hangovers from mushroom most the time, and they are usually pretty hardcore. Extreme headache, very hazy thought. Much like after drinking redbull vodka's and jack n coke's all night. Which I do not do any longer lol.
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WeirdConfused ... I don't think there is any basic explanation, could be connected to brains tempo of processing the substance.
 
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#12 Posted : 6/1/2012 9:07:10 PM

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yeah I know, it happens to me sometimes on shrooms. No lsd in my sector.

I think its related to what youv been eating.

AA loit a orange juice will keep my hallucination up for 10 hours, it wont affect the peak, which always last about 3 hours, but the oev can stay depending on if I drink a bit of alcool, or orange juice ime
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#13 Posted : 6/2/2012 11:32:11 AM

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yeah I know, it happens to me sometimes on shrooms. No lsd in my sector.

I think its related to what youv been eating.

AA loit a orange juice will keep my hallucination up for 10 hours, it wont affect the peak, which always last about 3 hours, but the oev can stay depending on if I drink a bit of alcool, or orange juice ime

the acid (in this case orange juice) de-phosphorylating the psilocybin into psilocin theoretically should facilitate the metabolizing of the tryptamines, rather than hinder it; thus making the trip duration decrease rather than increase.
unless i am mistaken..

also alcohol acts as a non-polar solvent in your stomach and helps pull the tryptamines out of the plant and thus aid in metabolizing as well.

however both methods DO potentiate it
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#14 Posted : 6/2/2012 9:08:13 PM

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I don't have such long lasting trips I did notice that most substances I take stay longer in my system than most other people. I usually see visual distortions up to 30 hours after taking acid. Highest dose I've taken 110mcgs potentiated with hash. MDMA works 2 or 3 hours longer as well.

Could be that your body is very inefficient at cleaning up drugs. CYP450 is responsible for most drug metabolism so perhaps that enzyme of yours isn't very efficient at doing it's job(is that even possible?) or perhaps you have fewer than others.
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#15 Posted : 6/2/2012 9:41:26 PM

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I don't have such long lasting trips I did notice that most substances I take stay longer in my system than most other people. I usually see visual distortions up to 30 hours after taking acid. Highest dose I've taken 110mcgs potentiated with hash. MDMA works 2 or 3 hours longer as well.

Could be that your body is very inefficient at cleaning up drugs. CYP450 is responsible for most drug metabolism so perhaps that enzyme of yours isn't very efficient at doing it's job(is that even possible?) or perhaps you have fewer than others.


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#16 Posted : 6/2/2012 9:55:52 PM

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This is pretty crazy, but IME strain irregardless sometimes one batch of psilocybes is WAAY more potent then another batch. I've had 1.16g send me to the moon off potent cubensis.

I thought I had long experiences (15 hrs from a solid LSD dose, 8 hrs with mushrooms) .. this is just un-heard of. Well until now.

I think sometimes it's just certain people's minds are capable of holding onto visions. If you're a visual-minded person you just continue hallucinating even though the chemical has worn off.

I know that I've let substances wear off and then at about baseline +4 hrs I was able to bring back hallucinations (marijuana, etc. not included) by sort of doing funny things with my eyes. The capability is still there after the substance is spent ...

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This is pretty crazy, but IME strain irregardless sometimes one batch of psilocybes is WAAY more potent then another batch. I've had 1.16g send me to the moon off potent cubensis.

I thought I had long experiences (15 hrs from a solid LSD dose, 8 hrs with mushrooms) .. this is just un-heard of. Well until now.

I think sometimes it's just certain people's minds are capable of holding onto visions. If you're a visual-minded person you just continue hallucinating even though the chemical has worn off.

I know that I've let substances wear off and then at about baseline +4 hrs I was able to bring back hallucinations (marijuana, etc. not included) by sort of doing funny things with my eyes. The capability is still there after the substance is spent ...

WOW



Yeah it's weird though because it's not just my eyes are still unfiltered it comes with some audio hallucinations and different mind-set as well.

Psychedelics..are so random.
 
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#18 Posted : 6/4/2012 1:04:12 AM

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i dont really do shrooms much but i do tabs a fair bit i no matter how much i do i always fall between 8-10 hrs or pretty close to it not including the small after effect of it. its must just come down to the individuals own ability to dispose of the chemicals
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i dont really do shrooms much but i do tabs a fair bit i no matter how much i do i always fall between 8-10 hrs or pretty close to it not including the small after effect of it. its must just come down to the individuals own ability to dispose of the chemicals

correct me if i am wrong, but i thought lysergic acid was fully metabolized in a matter of minutes (before you start tripping, even)
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i thought it was 24 hour for it to be fully metabolized but that is when it is eaten. an under cover cop who found an acid lab it the states and had 1000 doses of lsd when it got into cuts in his skin. he tripped 24 hrs straight. its on youtube if you wanted to look up 'drugs inc hallucinogens'. its a cool vid Thumbs up
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