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nigl
#1 Posted : 5/31/2012 8:29:11 AM

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Hello guys,

Yesterday I started (or tried to start) my first pharmahuasca travel with my gf. I have only smoked DMT before and I wanted to give it a try due to the longer duration.
So I weighed out 3.1g of syrian rue, didn't grind the seeds, put it in a cup with boiling water, stirred and after 5 minutes drank the "tea" and ate the seeds.
20 Minutes after this I prepared the Freebase DMT (50mg) by stirring it into a 1:1:1 mixture of water:lemon juice:vinegar. It dissolved nearly completely, some orange stuff didn't dissolve, this could be the oils and fats.

After a little while I experienced a slight body load and stomach discomfort but that was it. No psychedelic effects at all. No crazy nausea either.
Was it too little rue? Should I grind the seeds? Should I wait even longer for the DMT? Should I use another acid to convert my Freebase DMT into a salt?

Help please, I wanna make this happen Pleased
 

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#2 Posted : 5/31/2012 2:22:28 PM

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Try doing more than one 5mins soaking in rue, do 3x boils, filter and reduce..Read the FAQ on brewing aya and analogues. Also maybe try breaking rue down instead of having whole seeds. Maybe the harmalas didnt all effectively inhibit the MAOs and the DMT, or part of it, got inactivated.

If you still get very little effects, try what I mentioned above + raising rue to 4g + 75 to 100mg dmt.

Also load your pipe with some freebase dmt in case you dont get where you want.
 
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#3 Posted : 5/31/2012 4:58:58 PM

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tea was not brewed long enough and it could take longer for the stomach to digest enough of the seeds you ate to inhibit DMT.
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#4 Posted : 5/31/2012 8:15:37 PM

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Yeah if your going to be eating harmala, you're gonna have to grind it. I don't recommend moving up to 4grams harmala before trying 3.1 finely ground. That will probably work, it does for most people.

Also, how much do you weigh? I weigh only 145 and 50mg freebase DMT is a *light* experience for me. 100 mg is *strong* and 131 mg is *almost too strong*. Calculate your body weight with the dose of DMT, my ideal dose is around .7mg DMT/1pound bodyweight. But I like it strong. .5mg/lb has been a good dose for me before as well... this isn't necessary it's just a good way of keeping track. 1mg per pound is usually considered the upper limits of pharma. I got close but not quite and it was really quite mad.

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#5 Posted : 5/31/2012 8:59:57 PM

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Alright, will try grinding the seeds and boiling various times.
Thanks guys.
 
 
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