So is this really what ayahusca is supposed to be like? I wish I could detail my trip but all I can say is I have never experience anything like that in my life and after I came down I couldn't stop laughing and smiling. This is an understatement but I was stunned by amazement at what just happened, absolutely mind-blowingly fascinating. I believe I broke through but I did not encounter any entities and I didn't even finish my 200mg bowl of 1:1 infused Damiana. Holy shit fellas, I think I found my method. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would like to know if you guys are aware of damiana breaking you through just as good as smoking crystal does? Because that was unreal!!!

DMT is quite something else, isn't it ?
I too have had my first immersive experiences using enhanced leaf (pau d'arco in my case).
This and more is what you can get with a decent dose of DMT freebase. I guess you have used a poor vaporisation technique or smoking device before ?

If you want to try changa, then infuse caapi leaf (or bark) with dmt, or add harmala extract to your damiana. But even then, it is nothing like ayahuasca imho, but more LIKE ayahuasca than freebase.

Keep us updated with your experiments, and if you need any more help or advice, check the wiki, the forum and do not feel shy to ask.

oh and one thing:



Even though i can certainly understand your choice of words..it is really hard to express strong emotions using words. But one can try

Well Ive tried many, many different vaporization methods. None have worked very well. From a glass pipe, to the machine, to a version of the machine using pipe screens compressed together and none have worked very well! I had stronger affects from my changa made with damiana last night with a 1:1 ratio. Now Im wanting to combine the 2 and take a few puffs of damiana and then take a hit of crystal. Not to mention damiana taste great and with the infused leaf I can hardly taste the DMT. Im quite sure I broke through but not 100% positive, one things for certain, Ive never had any experience thats even remotely close and I use P. Cubensis frequently. I do apologize for cursing Ive never heard of language restrictions except for on Academic forums. I never make judgments but I can't help to think that its a little strange that theres no cursing allowed. Of coarse 99.9% of the time theres a better way to express yourself, but for that .01% of the time a curse word is needed to properly convey the message theres nothing like them, they have a certain "punch" that is missing from other strong words. Its strange how so much meaning and negativity is attached to words. However, I do understand why the rule stands, but I didn't realize this was such a sobering and serious forum. Can we not joke around a little? No Im just kidding, straight to business. <----Facetious


Love you all!!!! And boy do I love Changa

Welcome to the wonderful world of the psychedelic experience (and DMT)

Congratulations. It's something else, ain't it?

FYI - it's only actually changa if you're using caapi, but enhanced leaf blends can be very nice indeed. Blue lotus is pretty wonderful and mullein works great.

Some might recommend, if ya want a taste of Ayahuasca, the drinking of an Aya vine brew 40 minutes before blastoff w/ a changa joint or whatever method.

Blessings.

isn't changa just the bees knees?!
i love how it leaves so much freedom of exploration with the blend.. so many different combinations each with their own synergistic effect.

Yes its utterly fascinating. I shared my infused Damaina with my brother and mother and both seemed to have a break through, my mother didn't come out of it until over 20 minutes in and what they both described was absolutey a breakthrough, or at least it sounded like one. Like I said before Ive been trying to smoke crystal for 3 weeks and have a lot of problems breaking through, but Im 99% convinced that I'm breaking through with the Changa. Can any of you confirm or deny this???? Can changa not get you to the same place as crystal?? And FYI I decided to share this with my family after I made them watch DMT The Spirit Molecule and have been talking with them for the past 6 months about DMT and the effects it can produce. My intentions where to let them experience the Changa thinking they would still be present in this reality, and they where absolutely in a trance state, and they both described breakthroughs??!! Both where utterly fascinated and just as enthused as I was about the experience. If I switch to crystal in the middle of a Changa trip will I have a completely different experience?

P.S. I just want to say that Im veery lucky to have such an open minded family!!

That's not changa, brotha. Not that the damiana doesn't necessarily bring a flavor of it's own, but you are essentially smoking freebase on an inert carrier leaf. The infusion just makes efficient vaporization a no brainer.

If you infuse caapi leaf, then you have changa - and the caapi will influence the character of the experience in a more dramatic fashion.

hello Cosmic_Revolution, welcome to the no socks club

you need to stop thinking about this breakthrough nonsence, a breakthrough doesnt exist, its just a stupid term that holds no relevence to anyone. What is important is that you have experienced the glory and that really is all that matters.

time after time i have heard "i thought i had broken through untill.......", you need to concentrate on the pure awesome magnificence of what happened to you, not the monkey brain constructed language you are trying to use to convey what happened.

i am very happy for you, and im glad you have been where you have been and its great that you can take your tribe with you.

Weird?! This Changa Guide refers to changa being any leaf infused with DMT but regardless instead of saying DMT infused Damiana in my inner circle of friends and family I'm going to politely borrow the Changa tag. Efficient Vaporization??? I don't get it, I couldn't tell you how many times I've read how important it is to not burn crystal, yet we burn the $*&^ out of Changa/ Enhanced leaf. Isn't Vaporization something completely different than combustion? Maybe I'm not understand the physics and chemistry involved but regardless Im more than happy with infused leaf!!!
Another thing is the guide seems to contradict itself.

"The effects of Changa are considered by many to be more grounded than just DMT freebase smoked on its own. The effects have been reported as being similar to a short Ayahuasca trip."

Then the guide goes on to state:

"When infused with particular herbs DMT evolves into an almost completely different experience. Electrically charged depth, colour and feeling ooze through you like a hot knife through butter, the herbs bring more into the experience than you could imagine possible. It is so easy to breakthrough, so simple to use and simply so amazing!"

So which one is it? Are the effects that different from freebase X-tals or is this just a better way of smoking X-tals???

That guide is discussing both enhanced leaf blends and changa specifically, which contains an MAOI (usually caapi). The MAOI does alter the experience quite a bit (also lengthens it), and allows for a more gradual introduction to the space. The other blends all have their own individual characters, certainly, but the differences are subtler (in my experience), and what you are experiencing essentially is freebase DMT (along with the calming and/or mentally stimulating effects of damiana, blue lotus, calea, etc.). Having said that, I do love me some Electric Sheep!

As to the vaporization/combustion question, it's a fair one - and to be honest, I don't really know how that works. Maybe the leaf is combusting, but the spice is not. Maybe the spice is combusting, but this isn't as crucial an issue as previously imagined. Regardless, it's a VASTLY superior method of ingestion to the tired old herb sandwich routine. Just enhancing a completely inert herb (like mullein) 1:1 will always work (for me) much, much better than sandwiching ever does.

I always thought a breakthrough experience simply means that you are no longer in this reality? You can smoke some DMT and have LSD or Mushroom type effects or you can take it a step further and leave this reality altogether. I know what your saying but I do find it useful to attempt an explanation even though we are no doubt downloading it to a lower dimension to even describe it.

Well I do believe it means enough DMT entering your brain, meaning that it's not a low dose experience which is totally different. It's all magnificent of course but when your whole being enters the other dimension(just meaning one kind of breakthrough/enough DMT ) it's quite something and it can only be described as breakthrough. Even when it's not something to necessarily go after. I've always thought one should be grateful for any kind of experience one is given.