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2C
#1 Posted : 5/22/2012 9:09:32 PM
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Hi All!!

Firstly hello and welcome! Great site that you have got here!

I'm somewhat of a psychonaut and have been having some truely amazing experience as a result!!

I went over the weekend to a Free Party and there was tonnes of hype around "Changa". I am fairly well read around this subject and have a chemistry background but had absolutely no idea what it was!!

I have yet to try DMT but its in the card in the next month or two but fuck me, Changa blew my mind!!

With the MEOI enhancement of the DMT in changa meant that with a number of redoses the hallucinations from Changa were crazy, it made LSD seem like child's play!!

Anyways, what a great invention. Whats really strange is that I have been trying so hard to break out of smoking cannabis daily (pure, I dont smoke tobacco) and since returning I have just found no real need to carry this on anymore!!

Its only been two days (smoke free woop!) but I swear that Changa has changed something in my head in a very positive way.

Cant wait to try my hand at following some of your guides to making me some Changa! Drool
 

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#2 Posted : 5/22/2012 10:16:43 PM
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Welcome to the nexus!! Congrats on being smoke-free! DMT is really a special drug. If you are hoping to try DMT again, I would HIGHLY suggest extracting it yourself (maybe your cat can do it for you). Good luck!
 
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#3 Posted : 5/22/2012 11:20:01 PM

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Welcome 2c to the NEXUS'


You do know that you have now tried DMT do you?

Good luck in your ventures.

And with cutting back on the cannabis, on this site you will find many people trying to cut back on the ganga including myself, i am a Binger. Razz


As for changa helping this is positive.

I gave once my girlfriend some LSD her first and only to date, she had a good and bad time, LOL, laughter, tears, all emotions.
She used to live pretty lazy and not clean nothing, now she cannot help but clean regularly.
She left her house and came back after tripping and said she could not stand it that she had been living so filthy, LOL, now she cleans dishes does washing floors the lot. LOL
"Given enough Time even Hydrogen starts to wonder where it came from, and where it is going"
 
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#4 Posted : 5/23/2012 7:01:36 AM
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Thank you both for such positive comments!!

Yea I know that I have tried DMT now but my friend is holding onto a dose of DMT which I will be trying over the summer and cant wait to compare. He also believes that DMT is a deeply religious substance and now I can see why!! There was 5-MEO DMT floating around last weekend to but I think I am at least a year away from trying that one!

When I took the Changa I had a long conversation with the person who made it and it motivated me start looking into making it over the summer at some point.

I have so far found somewhere selling Syrian Rue for the MEOI but not sure what bark is best to extract the DMT via a free base reaction (Ive only started researching Changa so my knowledge is fairly limited at the moment!)

I feels like this is going to be a summer to remember!
 
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#5 Posted : 5/23/2012 7:50:06 AM

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Yeah crystal DMT is another level, I highly recommend a smoking method many use every time now it will help in letting go of reality easier and reduce the fight' or load the transition.

Smoke and close eyes while holding in smoke, Then lay down comfy, and blow out smoke after AT LEAST 10 seconds dont waste it, and open eyes, don't try to talk or move just try and relax till it is all over completely, trying to talk or move around prematurely will snap you out of trip and like a dream make it hard to remember.

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I am not sure how to link pages so i will cut and paste, my experiences with 2ce.

2ce is a very beautiful chemical, but i find on its own it lacks something vital.
I have noticed 2ce has no body sensation at all actually a complete lack of body sensation, only visual which is a very strange body sensation when visually tripping balls, a feeling as if the body is weightless, empty like a shell.

This absent body sensation sends me and mates into a motion sickness nearly puking at the onset, as good stuff comes on really fast and creates sea sickness.
then you get hit with glistening crystal colour it is captivating.

In experimentation i have found that LSD, solves all problems, it completes the 2ce experience, there is no sick feeling and the body has sensation the LSD and 2CE meet in the middle both loosing there un-easy edginess, and increasing their visual potency.


The mix is like being inside a diamond of colour, i had food colouring spraying out my vision and filling the area, there are geometric patterns in grass, and audio is enhanced a lot but not noticed, until one listens to the same music straight.

I would recommend experience with both separately first.


2ce must be taken as the LSD reaches peak, or it will just over ride the LSD completely, the LSD seems to give a weight or solidness to the body it grounds the body, and the LSD seems with myself and friends to stop the fast onset of 2ce which by itself causes a very spinning sea sick feeling in the onset.



LSD + 2ce: My doses depend usually one or two good LSD tabs take what you usuall would at a festival any where from you know 100-300 mics LSD what ever you are comfortable with, remember the 2CE will mellow the LSD and vice-versa and 20mg of 2ce is enough it is actually a descent first dose you will feel it if its good quality.

*This is a beautiful experience, so visual, so visual, not much thought, you are too captivated by the visual to have thought trust, 'a crazy visual circus', i dubbed this mix the perfect 60's trip i cannot explain how visual it is. Maybe a little everwhelming the visuals this dose is like a show it does all the work, i have not had bad responses myself or friends.

I have good experience with psychedelics, you may want to try the 2ce first on its own, but you probably wont again after trying it with LSD.


I have had prior my fare share of bad trips, but only good with this mix, bad trips come when i am not in 100% positive mind set i have found .


I have noticed and this is a rule of thumb for me now, That 2ce is profound especially on LSD when not as much 2CE is needed!
But it seems only to work on a rested mind, i have partied and been up then taken 20 mg of 2ce on three separate occasions to feel absolutely nothing.


Hope that helps its a pretty big post

Watch out with 2CE, read up on doses, 20mg is a good start if you are experienced in psychedelics,

NOTE:: there have been stupid deaths involved with 2CE where party kids have taken gross amounts of it, like candy,

i have never taken over 20mg but bro has taken 40mg i will try this soon,
He was seeing fractals appearing out of people as they moved about at a party like he could see there flair and intent arrows and colour sparkles beautiful.

2C chemicals are very Synesthetic, causing synesthesia; meaning basically, A condition in which one type of stimulation evokes the sensation of another

seeing sound and feeling colour ie. Amazing IMO
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#6 Posted : 5/23/2012 11:04:41 AM

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Welcome Smile Sounds like you had a decent introduction to this profound molecule! One slight correction that should help you on your quest for Changa creation, syrian rue / caapi etc contain MAOIs - Mono-Amine-Oxidise-Inhibitors. Mono Amine Oxidise is the enzyme that your body uses, amongst other things, to break down DMT in the body. I find DMT is best taken with an MAOI, although I know plenty of people like straight DMT. What ever floats your boat! Smile
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#7 Posted : 5/23/2012 12:15:54 PM

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#8 Posted : 5/23/2012 12:33:14 PM

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#9 Posted : 5/23/2012 4:44:52 PM
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Thanks for all the replies!! SideFX that is very interesting post you have there! I have tried 2C-E only once (although 2C-B 5-6 times and 2C-I around 10 times). I took it at a festival and was by far one of the most powerful substance experiences I have had to date.

This summer I feel I am going to be planning very carefully my chosen substances and how to take them. I have some LSD and 2C-I currently and so if 2C-E does not pop its head I may try combining these two.

I also met many people who gave merit to mixing a few the 2Cs to give a very beautiful experience as well. The chemical structure between 2Cs and Mescaline seem very simular and Mescaline is something I am very keen to try and have a few San Pedro cuttings but feel they wont yield the amount of Mescaline I would want.

Can someone point me in the direction of a good guide for making changa that only involves feeds I can get online via headshops? Syrian Rye seems good for the MEOI but not too sure what to choose for extracting the DMT.
 
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#10 Posted : 5/26/2012 9:05:18 PM
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Hi all,

Firstly sorry to double post. Just wanted to add to this I'm already on day 6 of not smoking/vaping/eating cannabis and loving it!!
 
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#11 Posted : 5/26/2012 9:11:56 PM

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It's MAOI, not MEOI. Please stop using it and listen to what people try to teach you.

Also, on this site we expect people to do their homework. So read up on things, search this site and learn about the basics of Changa this way. We are not here to spoon-feed you answers, we are here to help you when you are way beyond that point.

And as another moderator pointed out, ANY talk about buying/selling is a big no-no here, this was your first warning, don't make another slip.


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