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jack_in_the_box
#1 Posted : 5/19/2012 4:00:40 PM

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hello there everyone reading,

i imagine i should introduce myself maybe?
i have adhd and perhaps a strange personal history with drugs. i shunned (for my own consumption- i had long been a dd at parties and held my best friends hairs back) alcohol perhaps until i was almost 21, vastly abnormal for my home state Razz but i was perscribed ritalin from kindergarden to 4th grade, and than my parents wanted me off of it (appearantly finally noticing negative side effects). i was lead into my study of psychedelics through a study of the paranormal and magic, though with a bit too harsh of a rational mind for it. i love science, art, and people, and have a deep and burning desire to find the interesting side of life. ive been reading about the psychedelic experience for 6 years.

my name is a current reflection of my theory for these things. i am in a box, with no doors or windows big enough to squeeze through. im getting informatiom from behind and in front and to the side of me, but no matter what ill never escape my own head. i personally think the other side, or the afterlife, or spirit world of the shamans is probably their own mind.

though i also dont believe this would make those worlds any less astonishing for existing inside our skulls.

it means also that your personality, your YOU is made of spirits, and meeting these spirits is simply fragmenting off peripheral personality parts while keeping your identity on whatever the central part is (which may remain forever a mystery, like trying to see your own eye without relying on reflections). this means one human being's mind is literally made of gods, demons, angels, monsters, fairies, spirits, and ghosts.

didnt shakespeare say something to that effect once?

hope i made you think Smile

incidentally, i saw that datura is taboo to bring up, but does that include when talking about it as an admixture in ayahuasca? research brings up the use of solanaceous plants used in subthreshold amounts in such brews, because (at least with sub-psychotropic-threshold amounts) it eliminates the ability to feel nauseous. my reasoning in asking about this is that, barring spearmint, peppermint, ginger, ect kinds of remedies, the only other "herbal remedy" for nausea is illegal but more importantly fogs the mind to a degree, which could affect the ability to bring back useful images or insights on shaman journeys. my curiosity with this is, if either is used to the amount to bring equal relief from nausea, which plant interferes the most with remembering the uniquely hard to remember things from that world.
"...Well, I know what the Philosopher's Stone is, the Philosopher's Stone is an off-white smoke-able crystal and it is sitting in the kitchen freezer!"

-paraphrased from Dennis McKenna's account of Terence McKenna's words-
 

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endlessness
#2 Posted : 5/19/2012 4:25:11 PM

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Welcome to the Nexus!

You did make me think, I specially like the idea of the eye trying to look at itself without reflections Smile

As for datura being taboo, not really.. It all depends on several criteria and how you bring it up, here:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=25363

You say you "have adhd", or you were "diagnosed with adhd"? If the second, do you agree? I think often adhd tells more about the environment and the model for what an idealized kid should be (in some specific people's eyes), than about the kid who's diagnosed with it.

Did you try any psychedelics yet or plan to?
 
jack_in_the_box
#3 Posted : 5/19/2012 5:46:45 PM

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yes, i have tasted the flesh and essences of a few mind altering plants, however its still yet difficult to call them psychedelic... except for one very large dose of a syrian rue tea, the night after a full moon. still, this is not on the order of what id like to do... yet.

ive lurked around here for a little while, dont know why i didnt make an account before though...
i think that i have adhd characteristics in me, that are brought out or minimized due to set and setting (i tend to think all kids with attention disorders actually are like this to a greater or lesser degree, but you cant tell it to some people...). i still think in ways that are slightly different than most people, and my brother (rather like me, but against psychedelics and had ADD), claims that it is in ways that make me a faster thinker. im not sure how much stock i put in it, but to a degree it makes some sense. im not claiming speed is better, i make a ton of mistakes, have alot of scars, and piss off alot of people. but it makes some games lots of fun.

like the american version of tetris on a nintendo emulator. last night i got 101 lines, having previously never made it past 87. it required just the right amount of green tea and cannabis and few distractions. im sure i am saying this to make myself feel good, but i dont think a mind without adhd, or with adhd but mediated with ritalin, could have made it Smile

EDIT: the organisms ive worked with are:

Camellia
Cannabis
Coffea
Datura
Ilex
Ipomoea
Myrica
Nicotiana
Papaver
Passiflora
Peganum
Psilocybe
Saccharomyces
Salvia
Solenostemon
Theobroma


a few of these i wont work with anymore, and a few i would like to work with more, and a few ive never worked with but would like to (such as Amanita, Calamus, Calea, Heimia, Myristica, Phalaris), but i dont consider the length of this list the mark of greatness. only some of these genera speak to me.
"...Well, I know what the Philosopher's Stone is, the Philosopher's Stone is an off-white smoke-able crystal and it is sitting in the kitchen freezer!"

-paraphrased from Dennis McKenna's account of Terence McKenna's words-
 
sidefx
#4 Posted : 5/21/2012 11:09:10 AM

Is it Greedy to want to see everyone's Smile ?


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jack_in_the_box

hey buds bienvenidos

and Hopefully yes with some self control and discipline you can use to your advantage the readiness and overall fastness you have from your adhd.

I have tried small doses of Amanita muscaria and it gave me a sensation as if my head was in a trance and an overall floating sensation slightly out of body, but i have only ever had small doses.
Best to blend dry material, then try a gram to begin.

Amanitas to me smell like raw meat when fresh, but once dried they smell like a golden syrup toffee like cake smell sweet.

*****

I am wanting to join a mexican dude i met that performs Temazcal ceremonies;
They get a sweat dome, and bring inside 15 hot rocks one at a time, and pour over a unique blend of herbs and plants Including DATURA as one main plant. FIRE, WATER, EARTH, and WIND
"Given enough Time even Hydrogen starts to wonder where it came from, and where it is going"
 
changalvia
#5 Posted : 5/21/2012 11:48:49 AM

eat your jungle oats


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welcome Jack!

I like your psychedelic style Pleased

Is Datura illegal where you're from? Forgive me if I misinterpreted your post.
With every great plan comes the pleasure of patience. Take a rest, and grab a suckle off the teat of life!
 
jack_in_the_box
#6 Posted : 5/21/2012 12:22:58 PM

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changalvia wrote:
welcome Jack!

I like your psychedelic style Pleased

Is Datura illegal where you're from? Forgive me if I misinterpreted your post.

youre fine, i actually meant that Cannabis is illegal here, and the nausea/memory thing between Datura and Cannabis Smile

also my interest in Amanita is due to one line in one book that ive yet to have substantiated by other studies: synchronized brainwaves are a sign of someone in a deep meditation, almost nearing nirvana actually. monks given EEGs show sychnronized gamma brainwaves (26+ beats a second) when reaching the highest points of buddhist and yogi meditation.

now, as interesting and enlightening as Psilocybe is, when given to rabbits what happened is their brainwaves de-synchronized, more over time. granted ordinary brainwaves aren't well synchronized to begin with, but any order they previously had is lost. when given Amanita, however, their brainwaves did synchronize more. book did not say if their waves got to gamma.

i think though having gamma brainwaves might be an important part of enlightenment though. the feeling of time stopping or of savoring every second could be like a doubling of thinking time, since alpha brainwaves and beta are something like half as many beats. in slow wave sleep, it can get down to one beat a second. very very slow thinking there....
"...Well, I know what the Philosopher's Stone is, the Philosopher's Stone is an off-white smoke-able crystal and it is sitting in the kitchen freezer!"

-paraphrased from Dennis McKenna's account of Terence McKenna's words-
 
 
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