http://www.primitivism.com/machine-heads.htm

Interesting article defining the factors which influence our puny human perceptions. Forget everything you think you know, forget you. Here is the intro.

Introduction

The environmental crisis consists of the deterioration and outright destruction of micro and macro ecosystems worldwide, entailing the elimination of countless numbers of wild creatures from the air, land, and sea, with many species being pushed to the brink of extinction, and into extinction. People who passively allow this to happen, not to mention those who actively promote it for economic or other reasons, are already a good distance down the road to insanity. Most people do not see, understand, or care very much about this catastrophe of the planet because they are overwhelmingly preoccupied with grave psychological problems. The environmental crisis is rooted in the psychological crisis of the modern individual. This makes the search for an eco-psychology crucial; we must understand better what terrible thing is happening to the modern human mind, why it is happening, and what can be done about it.

Interesting read but ,IMO, alot of this piece is quite typical of anarcho primitivism insofar as it makes many pronouncements which are rather utopian and, when you read the works of its more keen proponents , a bit Luddite.

If the piece posted above grabs your fancy, check out the collection of essays by a chap called John Zerzan entitled Running On Emptiness.

As much as I am an advocate of sustainable practices, I like to look at it like there would be no recreation without destruction. Every effect stems from a cause and so on. What we deem bad is simply inevitable, and sure it helps to focus and make changes to yourself and help your community and environment where you can- but things are going to go in the direction that they will... and that is OK if you ask me. Regardless of what happens.

We are given various levels to the amount of space that we can occupy, which is determined not just by how clever we are, but universal factors that we are pieces of as well.

It seems like there is a lot of this kinda of thinking as of late.
I often view the person talking about it is like the drug addict that is telling me how bad drugs are :-)

Humanity is no different than anything else in nature, birth/death/rebirth.
As such I agree with house.
I'm not saying screw it, we're gonna die as a species lets party! Sure enough we should be taking as good a care of our body as possible, this may delay the inevitable but it does not remove it.


Mortality is a bitch.

I agree ringworm.

So if we destroy ourselves from greed is that ok or do we just deserve it?


***EVERYWHERE MACHINES DIG, BORE AND RIP FROM THE EARTH, THE PIECES OF STARS BURIED IN ITS DEPTHS SINCE ITS CREATION. MINERALS.


**I say fu** it bring the ICE AGE on, cause It couldn't be any Worse when once the HUMANS are GONE.
Perhaps IN FACT the world will be better off when the malice and the madness stop.


**where heading for self-destruction, on a high speed vessel, Taking turns on mother earth like a tag team wrestle....

*AND we all dead when we Poison the Waters


Laughing at our own destruction till it ain't fun no more, we can't ignore the repercussions

(((EXPENDABLE)))

I'm a big fan of the concept of sustainability / self sufficiency / even primitivism. I realize a lot about this lifestyle seems ludicrous to many people living a more "civilized" lifestyle, but there are also a lot of people who feel the same way from the other end of the spectrum. I am a big fan of the saying "different strokes for different folks", and have come across the phrase "there is no one right way to live" in some of the literature I've read. This makes a lot of sense to me... much more sense than people using countless resources trying to spread their particular way of life all over the globe. The best chance for survival of life in general (in evolutionary terms at least) is diversity. The more different lifestyles people are living around the globe, the more likely the species as a whole is to survive the potential for significant change (be it man made, from weather, plenty of options to choose from). What bothers me is that I get the feeling that the vast majority of life on this planet is completely hinging on the decisions of relatively few people (who may or may not have everyone's best interest in mind). In my opinion, respect and communication for/with others is of utmost importance. This is difficult if one is not in a position to be true to oneself, and for me personally I feel like I am living a much more meaningful life when I am closer to the land and further from the market. Then again I am the type of person who practically becomes physically ill when I spend too much time thinking about the concept of money. I personally can't stand the stuff, and am constantly conflicted with having to involve myself enough in pyramid building games in order to obtain as much of this concept as is necessary to do the things that I would like to do.

Sorry for the rambling response... my train of thought derailed & I couldn't figure out what kind of point I was trying to make, it any.

you say that as if it were a bad thing, who would know the horrors of a drug better than those addicted to it?

would you rather get your information from the drug czar who has never tried any illicit substance, and thinks anything that isn't alcohol is dangerous?

to me the only laughable explanation of how bad drugs are comes from those who have never tried it.


..maybe that was an over-analyzation of your analogy

Yeah.


I was viewing it moreso from the point of view of a hypocrite trying to tell me what to do. If you are posting on the internet about how unsustainable our way of life is.... guess what? you are living in an unsustainable manner :-) (for clarity, "you" is not you, it is the author of the linked page)

I believe technologies are the future and steps toward human minds evolving.

But i also think we are racing forward too fast, not taking in account what we destroy on our way.

Being greedy with the world and not bringing future lives into the picture.


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Its Generally Known Environmentally The 21st Century lacks Hope

If only we had another planet similar to earth sharing our orbit. One solely dedicated for psychedelic madness or expanding consciousness. A planet which is extremely healthy. At the same level integrating ourselves deeper into the earth, plant universe consciousness.