this evening i plan to do a psychedelic during the Pleiades eclipse, and am still rather unsure which to use. ive used syrian rue to a great extent, consumed trial (and trivialish) amounts of mushrooms, and never taken dmt. boiling the rue at this point might be a close call actually, boiling for 5 instead of 6 hours, but its the psychedelic i am most comfortable with (despite wretched taste). i am curious about mushrooms, but do, to a degree, dread the hangover tomorrow. i fear dmt, but for its short duration and low side effects its extremely conveniant.

ive been planning my experiance to be with mushrooms, since it would require the most preparation (besides physically preparing rue tea).

any advice for someone venturing out further than they have before?
also, between DMT and Psilocybin, i have been told that they are relatively similar, and also that they are magnitudes different. i hear and read much about the psychedelic experiances of them, but sometimes i find theres very little to tie them together.

on (injected or smoked) dmt do you see the alien, and on mushrooms do you merely talk to them? on my trial amounts of mushrooms, who im talking to often seems to simply be myself, but a self whos better at problem solving than ordinarily.

in ayahuasca preparations with dmt, its experianced in a gentler fashion, as if in a lower altitude but for a longer time. is this very much like mushrooms except half length and double the onset time? both appear, in strong doses, to be like a dmt flash when you close your eyes for long enough. and terance mckenna said that psilocybin is close to an orally active dmt.

and one final question, the one time i had mushrooms with syrian rue, it just put me to sleep. i feel like i smoked to calm nausea far too early, and this may have caused that. but with mushrooms alone, does anyone have trouble staying awake, when taken at night?

thanks for reading!
-jack

I think they are very different from each other (DMT vs mushrooms)

a friend of mine claims that a low, sub-breakthrough dose of dmt is very much like a short mushroom trip.

"on (injected or smoked) dmt do you see the alien, and on mushrooms do you merely talk to them? on my trial amounts of mushrooms, who im talking to often seems to simply be myself, but a self whos better at problem solving than ordinarily."

Meh if someone is telling you that low dose DMT is like mushrooms, than they have obviously never taken a large enough dose of mushrooms to breakthrough. Low dose of DMT could just as easily be said by many to be like oral DMT..Large doses of mushrooms can be just as powerful in my experience as a large dose of DMT..it is just that people are more inclined to just vape 50mg of DMT than they are to eat like 5-7g of good mushrooms..it also depends on the species of mushrooms we are talking about..some are much much more like DMT while others have other alkaloids that cloud it up at larger doses etc..

I have both seen and heard the alien beings or spirits with mushrooms and DMT/ayahuasca. DMT and psilocin share something in common with each other that no others seem to have for me..bufotenine does not touch it..LSD did not quite have it..mescaline def did not have it..these others all have their own qualities that differ from DMT and psilocin.

IMO psilocin is like an oral form of DMT you can take without any harmalas.

ive also heard, when characterising the visions, that mushrooms are more of things melting and flowing, rather than crisp or clean vision characterised by dmt or lsd

^ I dunno what that is about..

Take a solid dose and close your eyes..there is MUCH more going on that just melting and flowing. If anything LSD for me was more melting walls etc. I never had visions with LSD..mushrooms I have had some of the most intense visions of my life.

high dose of it can be just about anything. Still I think the visions(even high dose) are of noticeably different character from DMT visions based on my own experiences. Altough I must admit there are some similarities but they aren't enough to say that the visions are similar in my opinion. Anyway both can give almost any kind of experience, from hell to heaven.

I'd suggest taking the plunge with a decent, non-'trivial', dose of mushrooms.

did that... i mean, i think. its certainly mind expanding. it illuminates a long ladder between here and "the interesting"

Mushroom visions are easily as intense as LSD visions at the right dosage. Usually when people say mushrooms aren't as powerful its because they haven't had high enough doses. Shrooms are a very powerful teacher.. and also a powerful catalyst for spiritual growth if used in the right set and setting. The same can be said for LSD, although I find the trip to be a little more internal and introverted at times than mushrooms (later in my use of LSD anyway).. I use the word techy cos I get a bit of a futuristic vibe from acid. LSD often makes me confront elements of my personality that I hadn't consciously realised were there and may be a little uncomfortable facing, but can be a great counseller in doing so...while mushrooms do the opposite in my experience and give me the feeling of being in contact with a more universal intelligence which helps me see myself with the lense of love.. but really i cant compare the two I've as I've had beautiful and equally rewarding spiritual experiences on both.

I have to go but I'll write what I feel about DMT in comparison of effects when i get home.. I'll say this though... if your looking to tap into the science of your own mind go the LSD. If your looking for a more external and ancient wisdom go the mushrooms or DMT