Although not natural, its a decent non visual tryp., that i think would be good for somebody hesitant or apprehensive to try DMT . vaped this provides a intense non visual launch with a srong tryptamine buzz and euphoria with enhanced color appreciation. so its just a euphoric tryptamine. what are everybodies thoughts on this seemingly unique tryp for intro expiriences.

I was looking at this compound and would love to hear nexians reports on it to. While it's still legal in the uk i'd defo like to try it.

I personally have had about 6 expieriences with 5-meo-dalt. I find the best ways of adminisration are oral and vaporizing. orally its very odd for a tryptamine as it produces a seemingly empathogenic effect with stimulation very MDMAesque type feeling. There is a strong body component with waves of energy talkitiveness and a very unique tryptamine syle euphoria. This one comes on fast and leaves just as adbruptly. There are only mild visual effects such as the same vision one would get from psilocybin but without the movement,swirling,waving, and shifting of objects. It still alllows for decent introspection and is good with old friends or solo alike. I have found 45-60mg vaped is very intense, the effects come on before you exhale your second hit, there is increased heart rated enhancement of light,colors and strong uncoordination( its hard to walk stand or even think. THis one takes you over and last about 15-20 min, and hits so hard it has the whahoa what did i just do, bug eyed jaw dropped feeling, with a very srong incapacitating thought and ego dissolving efect, wich then mellows to a speedy energetic trip that makes you friendly and appreciate nature, your loved ones, and yourself. It definenatly has its own flavor and should not be compared to other tryps., There is possibilies for visual effects but large doses are needed and once vaporized i find i reach a point of such heavy intoxication of its kind i dont need anymore its can be very very overwhelming and make you nauseous, orally its more of a body high with CNS stimulation tryptamine style wich is agreat alternative to toxic amphetamine, treat this one as itself and in its own right and you will be rewarded.

Just curious isolated, if you've smoked DMT before too?

Yes i have vaped DMT with very strong breakthroughs multiple times one with MAOIs, dont get my comparison of 5-meo-dalt to DMT to serious, i was merely trying to suggest that that 5-meo-dalt might be a good indtroduction to how smoked tryptamines behaive: the rapid onset, the instantaneous obliiteration of sobriety ect, minus the fractals, dissolving of the world ,OEVs and CEV journeys vaped DMT can take you on, in no way was i trying to compare the two in the same realm., just similar rapid onset, 5-meo-dalt is one of the more bland tryps,. but i think it has its place, and dont get me wrong DMT and 5-meo-dmt are where its at for leaving this reality....... Why do you ask?

Is 5 meo dalt anything like 5 meo mipt? I've used the latter about 5 times and it's a nice, fairly non visual, sociable 3-4 hr. buzz.
I don't consider it psychadellic.

I simply ask because when you calll 5-MeO-DALT less visual, I was just curious if that was a comparison to your DMT experiences or if you were merely comparing it to psilocybin experiences. It was just a matter of wondering if you were familiar with DMT imagery when you say it's not so visual.

no its literally not visual, not like psilocybin or DMT, besides color enhancement and when vaped being unable to walk its psychedelic as in thinkng and life perception, but no wavy walls, morphing objects. its more of the tryptamine version of amphetamine but far more smoother and empathetic with stimulation and enhanced apreciation for music, with a nice body high and intense tryptamine euphoria, ots not like 5-meo-dipt or 5-meo-mipt, its a pretty clean feeling orally and comes on fast and leaves very fast when it does, it last about 2-1/2 hrs orally and 15 min vaped wich can be intense. So no its not that visuls if at all but could be a nice synergistic tryptamine for other tryptamines to complement them. alot of people write this one off because its not a potent hallucinogen, but i think its under appreciated, and shulgin is currently working on more of the DALT series as there is alot of interest in the DALT area, one being potent in the 1-2mg range and said to be hallucinogenic. 5-meo-dalt is a nice one just unique. And for anybody wandering i wold not combine this one with any phenylethylamines,piperazines or any strong stimulants, accept maybe a low doses, it has a strong stimulant effect of its own.

I found 5 MeO DALT to be a bit lacking in something. I don't really mind the absence of visuals, but it just felt sort of empty for me. I haven't tried vaping it. That is on my to-do list. Orally, I've tried doses up to 65 mg. At that point I was in a paradox high of being overly stimulated but not wanting to get up or do anything. So I put on some tribal sounding beats and drummed my table with my hands to let out some of the stimulation. Mentally, I didn't notice much. No overwhelming euphoria noted for me. Just kind of boring. Reminded me of a low dose (~150mg) DXM trip. I still have quite a bit left, but most likely it will just stay in my box as another collectors item.

most people say the same thing even @ 100+ mg but vaped its really intense and before you set this one back in the box give it one more chance, it will onlg take 15 min. of your time and is easily done by the layering of non psychoactive matter and 5-meo-dalt, or just use a vape pipe. there are people who get very poor quality stuff that leaves them unimpressed also, not saying you are one of them as you seem to be getting the oral effects. a decent oral dose and a vaped dose in the middle i find quite satisfying for this compound.

An oral 5 meo dalt dose with an n'n dmt vape in the middle would maybe be a good combo?

Being in the tryptamine headspace before vaping some dmt could be really rewarding i would imagine.