I was curious if anyone else has an interesting analysis of DMT Land/Hypserspace they want to share? I would love to try some new things or make some observations I haven't thought of yet. Sorry to Geek out on this but I find it fascinating at the complex fastness this experience offers.

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I have had discussions with a colleague who is deathly afraid of trying DMT. In our discussions he will object and say "How can it be more real than this waking world you are in now, that is not even possible!" Well... that is indeed a very good question!

As a CG Artist I decided to take some spacial observations. Most of these won't be new to anyone with experience, but I found them interesting because they were direct experience observations from myself. Because I too wanted to get to the bottom of "Why do even I feel this appears more real than the reality I normally live in?" Here some of my notes so far:

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- Crossed Eyes. During closed or even open eye sessions in a dark room as its coming on strong, I notice before I blast off if I cross my Eyes I wouldn't get double vision. How important are the eyes? Is information going right into the visual cortex bypassing the eyes all together? Were is this information coming from? Is the Brain generating it all or simply translating received info from elsewhere? Does crossing your eyes give double vision if the lights are on? I haven't tried this part yet.

- Spacial Awareness. When traveling down a tunnel/chrysanthemum at what appears super fast speed the center usually stays in-front of me or I see it bend into distance. Too my utter surprise when I thought about looking left, the center of the tunnel shifted to my awareness right and I was looking at the side of the tunnel (with all its shapes changing and warping like it actually might in the real world/3d simulation). Like if you were traveling in a subway driver and decided to look at the walls with Graffiti on it. WOW this really gave the impression I was indeed traveling in some actual spacial 3D/4D world.

- What in the Hell is that damn noise? When playing music I don't notice it. When silent my GOD its loud like some Alien Synthesizer blasting some SCI-FI crap into my soul.(I have heard this referred as the carrier wave?) Is this Synthesia, or or is it some tone we are receiving? Or is the brain processing it much like it might the visual information?

- Language Distortion. On a Pharma Voyage before I went to lay in bed for few hours, I was talking with my fiance. I noticed I could understand her just fine but what is this strange language coming out of the TV? Once I concentrated enough I realized it was English! So that's what English sounds like to a foreigner "HOW FASCINATING!", that happened a few other times as I was listening to Pandora and a commercial came on, I couldn't understand the language, until concentrating. How is it I can understand her but not digital things? Perhaps it has something to do with time dilation and the music being received in digital chunks. I must experience with an analogue device like a Record player.

- Peripheral Vision. This is interesting and I think has a HUGE part to play in being things being Hypereal. If you were too take your fingers and look forward and move them to you ears they will blur out. In Hyperspace it appears to me there is no such thing as Peripheral Vision everything is 100% crystal clear and crisp.

- Field of View. I have a hard time figuring this one out... someone smarter than me help please! I have had some breakthrough experience where (and yes it is to me at least quite jarring) but to see in 360 degree's at the same time. How the hell is that even biological possible? That sure as hell don't happen in the real world or dreams, I can't even now as hard as try to even imagine seeing my own room in 360 degree field in my minds eye. Is it just a perceptual illusion the mind is generating? Is possible to be visually aware in all directions? How could a biological brain with it evolutionary have the mechanics to imagine that?

- Depth of Field/Perspective. As eluded to earlier things tend to be in a some sort of spacial reality... yet they don't! WTF... that isn't proper perspective, yet at times it is. It almost seems like there is another Spacial Dimension happening. I, when in hyperspace see shifting crazy places with entities. I don't see concrete vanishing points... yet I still seem to have spacial awareness of something coming toward me or something far away visually.

- Focus. This very much like peripheral vision seems to change a lot. IF I had a damn hand in hyperspace it would seem no matter how far or close I put my finger I would always be able to see the crisp detail of my fingerprint. (this is just an example as I can relate no real world object to the craziness out there). I think this is another effect that makes things seem hyper real.

- Colors not of this world + super saturation. COME THE FK ON... how is this even possible? How could the Brain even imagine or generate color that would be scientifically impossible in the real world? Something is either happening or its not a new color like it appears. I had another artist friend say to me "My GOD its like if you could take all the colors in Photoshop that can only go to 100% saturation and somehow slide them up to 1000%). Or very much like colors blazing brighter than the sun yet we don't need to squint or worry about retina destruction!

- No Lights, No Shadows. It seems (well at least in my breakthroughs) everything is 100% self illuminated. Interesting I see like this in hyperspace as I don't in dreams or reality. My dreams seem to be lit very much like the real world (but my mind must render these automatically in my head as when I dream I am not aware of light sources) yet in hyperspace this is not the case. This I think helps toward the super saturation. Shadows tho have a huge part to play in spacial awareness tho yet in hyper space they are lacking.

- STAY STILL DAMNIT! Everything thing, I mean everything is always shifting, moving, changing. I have NEVER seen a single thing keep its form like staring at at a soda can on my Desk. That soda can would be constantly changing its shape, the Pepsi logo would be changing to bizarre symbols while the colors would be shifting hues... (the shear calculations of this is staggering on a grand scale). I encountered a shifting entities once that was so complex visually it was breathtaking. With all the Hollywood trickery we know I have not a clue how replicate this effect. Not only would his form change shape, his features, and all the bright ruins layered on him, along with constant gradient color blending.

- Why don't they speak ENGLISH? IF this is just a mind generated thing wouldn't my brain talk to me in my own language? I freaking think in hyperspace in English... yet an entity won't communicate with me in English? Yet I understand there meanings/thoughts better than I ever could in English. This is some what perplexing, why would the brain go to the extreme trouble to allow you to think in English in hyperspace but information gained wouldn't be in English?... ODD.

Either our little MONKEY brain sponges are doing some of the craziest reality/biological bending mental rendering possible or we are taping into some shit beyond most peoples understanding.

..good observations Digital Machine..
yes, i've witnessed the colors which don't exist in the real world..and much of the above, though i think relative 'altitude' determines much of the type of phenomena, as well as inwards vs. outwards focus..
i don't think anyone can explain the magic of the molecule..

why don't 'they' communicate in English..?
..i think because spoken languages in general are not as efficient forms of communication in terms of what can be conveyed, and how quickly..in the 'Hyperspatial Light Languages' "meaning is beheld" (as Terence McKenna said)
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I'm gonna go through a couple of these to briefly talk about my experience on the points



Yes, I get these sci-fi sounds too. Sometimes it's these phaser/flanger sounds, other times it can sound like an automated computer sequence, other times like a space ship engine. I find it sort of odd that often times these sounds can seem to be coming from my ears. I can feel the vibrations on my ear drums as if it were physical sound as opposed to simply overly vivid thoughts or something of the like. I think this probably adds to the hyper-realness of it all.



This is a strange one indeed. In my personal experiences, it seems that this is made possible by taking on a holographic perspective where your entire experience is one gigantic hologram of which you can see all of it at the same time from what appears to be multiple perspectives. Evolution seems to have little to do with what we experience in hyperspace. In fact, it seems irrational that hyperspace is a product of evolution. Hyperspace may as well be the second missing link.



It seems to me that there are a multitude of extra spacial dimensions that entities/objects can fold/slide/transform through. This definitely adds to the hyper-realness in spades. I think part of what makes consensual reality seem real is the immersion in 3 dimensions. Even 3D video games are projected from a 2D screen, so it's somewhat rare to be immersed in a space of 3 dimensions much less 4 to however many. Open eyed visuals add a subtlety to dimensions and planes. Let's say I'm staring at the open-eyed wall opposite me. Often times, holograms will form first on the wall, and then begin to enter more dimensions. As the hologram develops more and more, it approaches me ever closer until it finally reaches me. Now I have this one gigantic hologram that is simultaneously touching me, touching the wall opposite me, and occupying all the space in between. Now when I look at that area in between, that's where the subtlety in dimension is. I can see the picture existing at multiple "stops" or planes within that depth and they are all individualized from each other yet, they simultaneously make up one coherent hologram as well. This one's a real mind boggler.



Yeah, this is one I've been contemplating recently myself too. The other day I was looking at these colors that were extremely subtle and delicate and in trying to label them, it seemed like they were violet, but like an octave beyond the violet with which we are familiar. It got me thinking because on one hand the seven colors seem rather arbitrary in the sense that (we believe that) dogs can see in less colors, snakes may only see in the infrared, etc...so it seems rather arbitrary to say that we can discern these 7 colors, so therefore there must be 7 of them when we are fully aware that the visible light spectrum is such a tiny fraction of the EM spectrum. If we were dogs would our rainbows have 5 colors? On the other hand 7 seems to match up nicely numerologically speaking as well as there being 7 chakras, 7 notes in the scale, etc...7 is also the last number before the octave (thinking music), and so my theory is that the rainbow repeats ad infinitum in either direction so that it goes through cycles of colors (hmmm could color be fractal too?), but that the colors of different octaves aren't necessarily like the colors of the octave that we're ordinarily tuned into. So after ending at violet in the next octave up, we would have red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet except being higher frequency, they would be perceptually different. I have a hard time explaining it beyond this point, as I'm sure it would get more complicated, but I think you've done a decent job in your description too.



In hyperspace everything seems to be self-illuminated because everything seems to be made of light itself (perhaps a nod to a "truer" state of reality and therefore hyper-real). I never considered how the lack of shadows can have a profound effect on our spacial awareness. Interesting.



I don't find this to always be the case, but I can certainly relate and I know where you're coming from. Often time it can be so hard to remember how an experience started because you've just been through the 1001 Arabian tales in 5 minutes or less, and now when you've seen the last one, you try and remember the first one...good luck! And though, when everything may be in constant flux, it still demonstrates a greater sense of consistency in dreams. For example, you may be talking to your friend Joe in a dream. You turn around for a second, turn back to talk to him and he looks completely differently. Not because he's "transformed" or "shifted", but because you've forgot how to render him! In hyperspace, though objects may transform, they can easily transform back and they display a firm sense of an internal logic. They behave more like objective objects than the thought forms of which.



They never used to talk to me in English either. It was usually (and sometimes still is) some alien language that I'm not even sure a human mouth could phonetically pronounce, even with training. It seems that some entities prefer English, and others prefer whatever alien language. The godhead that I've encountered several times now (again just two days ago) talks to me in English. It's always rather epic. The voice is apocalyptic where it's simply gigantic (sounds like real sound, not simply vivid thoughts) and has this massive delay feedback as the voice cascades into itself. The pitch is simultaneously very low and very high, and feels like it's simultaneously shifting up and down. It's a voice that is in itself transcendent of duality

Firstly. Whats with the Yellow?? It works ok if you have the dark theme, but the light them it is VERY hard to read yellow on a light gray bg.

Great report of observations!

One thing I was thinking as someone said their ears seemed to vibrate with the frequency change (carrier wave), was to get the plug for audio in on the Iphone and plug in a set of headphones. Headphones are just a backwards mic, thus could be used as a mic. So you would actually be recording what your ears are doing. Imagine recording all of the things you heard in HyperSpace!!! Just a thought / idea / invention / curiosity....

Love the stuff mentioned in here and you have all done a great job, best I have heard of explaining the hyper dimentional world as through the eyes and ears of the psychonaut. I the one thing you maybe left out was the feelings, feelings of your skin, heart rate and how you feel when traveling at warp speed.

One thing I have not heard yet. Is someone mentioning if there is a ground / sky in the trips. Are you inside or out? Are there clouds?

Thanks guys! You have analized this crazy place very well. I hope others can add to it. It would be nice to make a wiki of it

I like this desription as it seems exactly like that at times. Sometimes it sounds like fast alien mumbling
These days I don't get the high pitched carrier wave sound often like before, but the phaser sounds are still there.
It's interesting how the experience changes with time even in sounds perceived. I haven't vaporized in a month and I feel like the next time might turn the page in the endless book of DMT, once again.

One thing of many I have observed is a notable difference in an experience with or without the presence of an other.

So there is hyperspace itself as a landscape then hyperspace with entity presence .
There's a big difference and its noticeable .

I believe that feelings are the choice means of communication between us and it .

Human language is an exclusive construct to us.

That being said I have had some telepathic communications in English . It seems as though the caapi vine and leaves help greatly in the facilitation of this kind of back and forth dialog .


I believe we need to focus on methods of communication more in general .

well said. I believe caapi definately helps as it slows down the experience somewhat. Even 15mg sublingual caapi extract helps me alot to observe better and "slower".



Can you tell what was your method of administration and what was the dose?

Global once posted a beautiful description of these pharoah- type figures transforming through multiple dimensions, plus how incredibly complex objects can be formed rapidly by the intersection of much simpler objects. I'd quote it here but I can't remember where that thread was...

Anyway, let's talk specifically about color. For starters, in the real world, there is no such thing: color is our brain's interpretation of light wavelength. It's an internal fabrication. And we don't see 7 colors- we see an infinite range based on a red/green/blue mix, same as a computer monitor. We have RGB receptors on our retinae, and that's it (plus additional receptors for brightness).

The reason scientists are able to speculate on what colors an animal can see is that they can simply put the retinal tissue under a microscope and see what kind of receptors there are. Cetaceans, for example, don't see blue. Why bother, when blue is ubiquitous? It's the remaining colors that are of interest in that environment.

Past either end of the visible spectrum you have much longer and shorter wavelengths than can be physically captured by our retinae. Infrared, X-rays, etc. a creature with a much more advanced retina could in theory capture a much wider range of wavelengths, and thus would need a broader range of colors to interpret it by.

Now I see no reason why our brains should be limited by what the natural world has to offer, in terms of what colors we can see in our imaginations. We are probably more limited in terms of imagining these new colors- how can we imagine something we've never seen? (try describing color to a blind person) But meanwhile the hardware of our brains does not have this same limitation. It's possible that the color range we see in hyperspace represents the full range of colors that our minds can behold... But the real world very rarely is able to come close to the full saturation our brains can experience.

I think that may have been from PM conversations.



Well analogously to music, one isn't restricted merely to hear the 7 (or even 12 chromatic) tones. There exists an infinite blend of frequencies between the 12 chromatic tones within a single octave. I can still assign primacy to seven particular frequencies.



Yes, and so I suggest that if we were wired to perceive x-rays for example, that we would interpret parts of the x-ray spectrum in super-octaves of the rainbow with which we are familiar. This "higher dimensional colors" don't seem to behave like the colors with which most of us are familiar.

After having contemplated this earlier today when writing my earlier post, I smoked some spice this afternoon and was treated to a first hand "demonstration" of some of these other-worldly colors. I'll be writing up an experience report shortly which I will link to here.

Global - you are right. The C scale has 12 notes. But when you play a sitar you can move the frets back and forth to make more intricate scales. (don't know if this relates to what you guys are talking about)

I mentioned the ear recorder for the iPhone. What you need is a plug much like a 1/4 inch jack that has audio / video hookup (RCA). The the red and white are line out L&R and the yellow is mono in. So then you need RCA to female 1/4 inch jack and then plug in your in ear headphones. Press record with volume up and blast off. See what it records after your trip. Might record and audio of the whole thing going on in hyperspace. This would really change things!

--Electric Kool-Aid
Imagine if did record something how creepy would that be to have you damn carrier wave on file? Observing feeling is for sure a noteworthy observation. Fight or flight, anxiety, racing heart, emotions...etc.

--Felnik
that is interesting, I will need to observe more with our without other presence to see the difference. We usually have someone go solo in a dark room then with eagerly wait hear about there experiences.

--Global
great observations. that's cool you get communication in English sometimes. Do they have an accents or talk in a certain style of English? (I joke, actually do they?)I would also love to experience something staying static in my environment. I would have thought by now something would have stayed cohesive. Great description in your analysis of Depth of field, "it boggled my mind", I would like to experience that! The only open eye stuff I tend to do is on pharma which never seems as intense as a smoked HyperPunt.

Speaking of Spacial dimension do you think it is like the Carl Sagan video? Do you think we were getting a glimpse from a brand new angle, like pulling a 2D entity into our 3D world and blowing there mind? Interesting relations to 7 how far does it go, I will have to google this? Its odd how Mathematical sometimes it feels at least "visually". On a personal level I believe Tom Campbell and others Simulation theory has some interesting points. You mentioned different spectrum adjusted potential like x-ray, gamma rays, into our spectrum of understanding. Sometimes I wonder is what some of patterning could be too, visual insane binary data being sent to visual creatures as us. I wonder if other senses would be similar like Sonar. Animals with Sonar obviously have spacial awareness but does there brain build a 3D picture for them, or do they just feel from a distance through sound the space?

--Guyomech
You are right about color. It just the reflection of light waves that the eye/brain is receiving. Nothing has color it just reflected photon of light in different ways. As far as imagining new colors and other things not of this natural world. I think our Brain does have massive limitations as do animals. Could a rodent imagine what its like to feel "Shame?"... maybe. Could I imagine a new color or spacial dimension without ever experiencing... maybe. BUT I suspect it would be extremely rare if many times impossible. 2D Flat-world experiencing 3D comes to mind. I have heard about this hyper reality before my first breakthrough, I have a great imagine (or so I like to think ), I imagine going to some cool exotic colorful place meeting bouncing colorful shapes. My GOD, when I first broke through it was NOTHING like I imagined. My initial imagination of hyperspace fell short on every single level because my brain didn't experience it yet. My brain was referencing LSD and other Trips I have done, which as we all know is not the same.

--nen888
I agree one can't totally explain the magic that is the molecule. At times tho we need to do our best and try because if we describe it as hyper-real I always get the response. "how do you mean, its more real that the real world?"

To quote Ralph Waldo Emerson in his essay, Nature:

"The central Unity is still more conspicuous in actions. Words are finite organs of the infinite mind. They cannot cover the dimensions of what is in truth. They break, chop, and impoverish it. An action is the perfection and publication of thought. A right action seems to fill the eye, and to be related to all nature."

And on colours, Aldous Huxley's The Doors of Perception, he talks about preternatural lighting in his mescaline journeys.

This is a really cool thread, thanks for starting. I love the fact you've taken proper observations for comparison!

I have had an old Asian lady entity talk to me in English with a Chinese accent. I've heard the accents of red necks, Irishmen, Texans (different from rednecks ), and more I'm sure.



Next time you're peaking, open your eyes and concentrate on a blank surface like a wall or the ceiling. See what happens.



I think it's possible. I think that we probably exist in all the dimensions simultaneously, but our perception is typically restricted to being aware of only a handful.

Also, here's my relevant experience report from yesterday

Octave Colors (experience report)