2. Even though they say you can do shrooms every 4-5 days, I find this to be 100% false. There have been a couple time of the past year where I did 7 grams of shrooms every Saturday for about 5 Saturdays in a row and each one was not as good as the previous ones. So then I did a test, I took 3 weeks off and then did 7 grams again and it was incredible. So for me, 4-5 days is NOT enough to totally get rid of the tolerance, maybe for other it works, not for me though.

next time why dont you try eating 9 g of shrooms with 8 grams of rue, fuck man, just eat the rue in globs, dont bother making tea swallow as much as you can powdered and your shrooms, cant wait to hear about that

@ behindthelight

i stopped reading after "my shrooms are good shit" and "cracker dry"

.... id like to use this oppurtunity to remind you that p cubensis whether grown by you or not are still an entheogenic sacrament, not a thugish narcotic. respect them with the language you use, please.

secondly. cracker dry shrooms ( i assume a dehydrator was used, and overused at that) do not contain psilocin any longer, just psiolcybin (i may have switched those) when totally dry the psilocin breaks down rendering the potency less. i assume that different strains and approaches to growing yield different ratios of psilocin to psilocybin and wouldnt be surprised that somewhere sometime someone grew some potent fresh shrooms (full of psilocin) but when they were dried they became inert.

i recommend airdying your mushrooms to a point they wont culture molds but not totally anhydrous (this method utilized room temperature instead of 155 degrees f, which after prolonged exposure WILL break psilocin down)

again i may be misinformed as to which breaks down, psilocin or psilocybin but from my reading and experience growing and picking wild, fresh mushrooms have a totally different feel to them and come on much faster


next time why dont you try eating 9 g of shrooms with 8 grams of rue, fuck man, just eat the rue in globs, dont bother making tea swallow as much as you can powdered and your shrooms, cant wait to hear about that

tolerance to p cubensis is 4-5 days no matter the dosage

you can do them every week on sunday and always have 0 tolerance (that is to say you havent been doing drugs that contain cross tolerance effects)

again people are making definite statements even though behindthelight has pointed out his findings.



Just because it works for 1 person doesnt mean it will work for everyone.



please be respectfull in your advice on dosing sacrament

sorry man...definitely not true...I don't know what else to tell you....

It has been true for me for years and for everyone else I have met and taken mushrooms with..it very well may not be true for you though..but you would be a rare minority..

That being the case, I recommend that you do the following: make a cup or less of syrian rue tea from 4 grams, not 8, because you may become nauseous and vomit again from the rue alone. Also prepare gelatin from 5 grams of mhrb. Drink the syrian on an empty stomach. Forty-five minutes to any our later, consume the gelatin. T+45 min. the trip should start coming on, and then you'll be golden for the next five hours or so. If this does not work, I will be flabbergasted. Good luck.

Black tea is loaded with tannins, yet it never produces nausea in people.

1. If I didn't take the mhrb, would I still have tripped like that just on the rue?

2. Did I throw up from the rue? or from the mhrb?

3. I don't think I could ever drink the mhrb again by itself. Can I brew the 2 together? Can I get rid of that sediment? or is the sediment important?

4. I keep hearing about "tannins" and that you can take them out with an egg white. What are tannins and why are they bad?

behindthelight, I'm curious... was there anything different from usual about the Shroom exp. in terms of set or setting? Are you taking any other medications?

I find Rue tea makes me very nauseous for ~1.5 hrs, but then it disappears. Like you with the MHRB, I'm not sure I ever want to taste Rue tea again. There must be a purer solution for both of us...its crystal clear in my mind

..IMO..
1) most people would have had some sedation, light sensitivity, dreamy headspace..
2) i think it was the rue in conjunction with all amines in your system (incl. mhrb)..in all my experience with such experiments, 8 grams of rue (efficiently boiled) would cause the majority to have some nausea or purge..even with extracted dmt..it's usually the addition of the tryptamine which leads to purging (less common with rue on it's own)
3) brewing together may work better..the sediment is better to leave out..completely indigestible..more likely to cause stomach distress than tannins
4) most tannins are not 'bad'..in fact those in Tea are now considered 'good' anti-oxidants..some individuals' stomach's may be sensitive to them, but i think generally their removal is unnecessary and over-suggested..
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..suggest 3.5-5.0 grams rue in future..

^for you that maybe is true. But it is also true that for like 95% of people the opposite is true.

ive done it many times, and taken harmalas, DMT and mushrooms at the same time as well..always makes the mushrooms stronger for me and my gf.

There is no tolerance issues found in reguards to ayahuasca or analogues. Both harmalas and DMT seem to often have reverse tolerance. You would be the minority here. What you apparently experience is not normal..building a tryptamine cross tolerance from taking harmalas the day before is something I have never even heard of anywhere else but in this thread.

Just like how most people do NOT have tolerance with mushrooms lasting more than a few days. This should be evident based on my poll thread so far..you seem to be outside the norm in general when it comes to both psilocybin tolerance and developing a psilocybin tolerance from taking harmalas. Why is it so hard to accept that what are saying is just not true for most people?