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A police came to my house this morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Options
 
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#21 Posted : 5/15/2012 8:25:26 PM

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Deep breath.

As far as I can tell, you have not broken any law yet- you'd have to actually perform the extraction fir that to be the case.

As far as possibly being on some DEA watch list or something like that, you should just assume that we all are (I know, cold comfort). But they wouldn't be visiting just to tell you that you are being watched. They'd need a real reason.

Do the smart thing: clean up. Who actually talked to the cop? Do they have any info at all about what type of paperwork? Sometimes they will have the sherriff serve court summons papers (got any late alimony payments?).

Once you clean up you have the option of just calling the police and enquiring. If you are in fact the law abiding citizen you are trying to behave like, I think that would be the perfectly natural thing to do. First try to find out if it was the local town police, sherriff, etc.

This may actually be no big deal. Good luck, keep us posted!
 

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#22 Posted : 5/15/2012 8:25:59 PM

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we've all seen videos like this one, but this is one of the better more informative ones ive seen. A lawyer and detective expose it all.


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#23 Posted : 5/15/2012 8:28:43 PM

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SnozzleBerry wrote:
1) What documents did the cop have to give you? I don't think this was mentioned at any point.

2) Do not talk to the police about anything you may or may not be doing. If they are intrigued by your activities, you cannot rectify this by yourself.

3) DO NOT TELL THE POLICE ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING. If they are merely at your house asking questions, they probably do not have enough to take you in; otherwise they wouldn't ask questions, they would just take you in. If they take you into custody, ask for a lawyer, otherwise remain silent.

the cop did not give to my roomates the documents he wanted to give me.

thanks for the advise not matter what I will say nothing.

But should I keep the mhrb and naoh or put it elsewhere. now everything is at my gf's house but I live there now so they will be coming. I already hide the spice just in case. I have not yet received the caapi or the mescaline but I think I will hide does as well?

But naoh is used for making pretzel as I seem to see, I could go that way? or its better to say that I wanted to do soap with a mimosa extract for my skin and my moms skin problems?

I mean if I dont have any mhrb isnt it suspect anyway? shouldnt have more left and say that I did try to do soap but made a error and dumped everything down the toilet? fuck so theres people reportedly that went into trial for a pound a mhrb, how did that ended?
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#24 Posted : 5/15/2012 8:31:55 PM

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also, the cops wasnt in uniform, he was dressed as a civilian. what would that means?

yes I think I will call right now the police of my neghberhood.

thanks guys for all this. I will take a big breath, Im freaking out. but whats the worst can happen?

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#25 Posted : 5/15/2012 8:34:44 PM

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Godspark wrote:
Did you buy that combo pack that automatically shows up on Amazon? Mind if I ask who was your vendor? Was it juremaincense.com?

I don't know what's going on in Canada, specifically the east coast. There's a big yet silent crack down on all mimosa purchases. Mississauga is all but locked down. SO many seizures happening right around my intersection.

nonon.

I bought the limonene and naoh from two different places. The caapi and herbs from maya and the mhrb from a known vendor but not from juremaincense.com.
the mescaline did not yet arrived but the order is not written as for mescaline so at least for that purchase im completely safe!

I think I need to relax. but im wondering what do people get charge for. its a legal product in canada right, mrhb that is...
β€œMe only have one ambition, y'know. I only have one thing I really like to see happen. I like to see mankind live together - black, white, Chinese, everyone - that's all.”
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#26 Posted : 5/15/2012 8:43:41 PM

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I dont think people got charged for a pound, the guy that got charged in canada was for many kgs mimosa (Correct me if im wrong, jamie).

Not that this means youre good, maybe or maybe not, so just do your part in being safe.

Also, I think that those "excuses" you are trying to make are useless and you might just complicate yourself. Who would you tell that too? As snozz said, you shouldnt talk to cops, if they have something on you, you talk to your lawyer (and he should be the one to decide what "story" to tell), and if they dont, you dont have the obligation to tell them anything.
 
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#27 Posted : 5/15/2012 8:52:05 PM

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yes the cases in canada were for many many kilos..though I remember some while back there was another person on the east coast who got summoned to court I think for ordering like a kilo or 2 maybe I cant remember..less than vendor ammounts though.
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#28 Posted : 5/15/2012 9:50:07 PM

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murphythecat wrote:

I think I need to relax. but im wondering what do people get charge for. its a legal product in canada right, mrhb that is...


I think you're ok.
If they had a search warrant, they would have come in. If they show up, do NOT allow them to enter your place. Keep your keys in your pocket at all times, and if they show up then step outside of your door, close it, and have it set to lock behind you.
Best to move anything you have to some other place, even if its a hole in your back yard. I went through a panic attack about a year ago and flushed 2 kilos of MHRB powder down the toilet plus some other stuff I had, and really for almost no reason but paranoia, so I know how nervous you can be...after all, they can send you to jail for many years and a couple hundred bucks worth of ingredients is worth nothing in comparison.
They might just be investigating someone you know/knew for security clearance for a job application.
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#29 Posted : 5/15/2012 10:00:50 PM

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how could they send me to jail? they could send me to jail if I had spice right? not just for having mhrb root.

do anyone have any information?

Can someone go to jail for having just the raw mhrb powder?
β€œMe only have one ambition, y'know. I only have one thing I really like to see happen. I like to see mankind live together - black, white, Chinese, everyone - that's all.”
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#30 Posted : 5/15/2012 10:25:19 PM

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another question. Should I even say that yes I do have mhrb? Or should I even say that I never did receive mhrb?

Something tells me that it could only because of the naoh since its used in amphetamine? Maybe the police came for the naoh, not even for the mimosa...
β€œMe only have one ambition, y'know. I only have one thing I really like to see happen. I like to see mankind live together - black, white, Chinese, everyone - that's all.”
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#31 Posted : 5/15/2012 10:41:36 PM

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Not to repeat myself but........ dont say anything. If they have a warrant/case, you will talk to your lawyer, not them. If they dont have a case, you dont have to say anything. Saying something will not help in anything.
 
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#32 Posted : 5/15/2012 10:44:17 PM

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Don't say shit! Let your lawyer do all the talking for you...ANYTHING that comes out of your mouth WILL be used against you!
 
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#33 Posted : 5/15/2012 10:48:48 PM

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murphythecat wrote:
another question. Should I even say that yes I do have mhrb? Or should I even say that I never did receive mhrb?

Something tells me that it could only because of the naoh since its used in amphetamine? Maybe the police came for the naoh, not even for the mimosa...


Sounds like you are panicking far too much.
Don't say ANYTHING to the police. Do not answer any questions except to say you know nothing about anything they are asking and ask if you are free to leave and walk away from them. If they say they are detaining you then tell them you wish to remain silent and they must speak with your attorney. Remember that if they had a warrant they would not be asking you questions trying to get you to incriminate yourself, and without a warrant or some incriminating statement you give them, there is NOTHING they can do.
Its all probably about something else anyway, but just in case keep your cool and say nothing and make them leave or walk away yourself.
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#34 Posted : 5/15/2012 11:04:49 PM

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DO NOT SPEAK TO THE POLICE WITHOUT A LAWYER NEXT TO YOU, THIS IS YOUR RIGHT.

COULD THEY HAVE A WARRANT OUT FOR YOUR ARREST FOR FINES MAYBE?

MAYBE YOU HAVE FILED SOMETHING? LOST PROPERTY?

I WOULD BE SAFE AND MOVE THE STUFF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT, AND GO SEE THIS COP ON HIS TURF GET THIS CLEARED ASAP, IF THEY DETAIN YOU REQUEST A LAWYER SAY NOTHING ELSE.
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#35 Posted : 5/15/2012 11:18:44 PM
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I repeat, don't say anything to the police. They will bullshit you with intimidation and probing questions. They will make it seem like you have to tell them stuff. Luckily for such a minor thing they wont go bad cop on you.

Like endlessness said wait till you have a lawyer, by talking to the cops you are giving evidence which will given to the judge in court. The cop will put you into a legal corner if you talk to him. This will mean there wont be enough evidence to prosecute and likely there will be no case.
 
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#36 Posted : 5/15/2012 11:20:05 PM
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You have the right to remain silent anything you do say could be used in a court of law
 
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#37 Posted : 5/16/2012 5:28:10 AM

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Cops are trained to intimidate people, talk them into loops and get them to admit things. As others have said, dont tell them anything. If they do come and start asking questions, have a plan of exactly what you are going to say. Something like, "Im really sorry but unless you have a search warrant, are detaining me or Im under arrest I dont have time to answer your questions, have a good day." Just know what you are going to say to avoid talking to them and be firm about it. Like I said they are trained to intimidate you and get you to admit things so dont get into a conversation with them.


And to be honest, Im betting it has nothing to do with anything you have recently ordered online.
 
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#38 Posted : 5/16/2012 6:06:36 AM

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"Im really sorry but unless you have a search warrant, are detaining me or Im under arrest I dont have time to answer your questions, have a good day." Just know what you are going to say to avoid talking to them and be firm about it. Like I said they are trained to intimidate you and get you to admit things so dont get into a conversation with them.

thanks everyone.

But I gotta wonder if that sort of answers would put me in trouble? Why would I shouldnt answer any questions? isnt that weird? I mean to act like a scary dude afraid if the police do reaise some uestions?
why souldnt I just say that its for soap. mhrb do contains proprieties good for skin problems and naoh is used widely for soap. just need to add that I am waiting impatiently my castor fat to make those great soap!

Im just thinking that maybe they want to hear this and then theyll pass along. they might be just checking if im concoting some amphtamines with the naoh and if I talk to them about soap my gf's is doing I might be okay to say that if they ask why I bought the Naoh and the mhrb...
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#39 Posted : 5/16/2012 6:09:27 AM

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Just to back up what everyone here is telling you, do NOT say a thing to the police other than politely telling them that you aren't going to answer any questions. I was charged with something pretty serious a couple of years ago, a violent offense which could have resulted in lengthy jail time if found guilty, I was completely innocent. I wasn't even anywhere near the place it happened, it was a friend of mine who done it and the victim and his family all said it was me and were willing to testify (I'm telling the truth about being innocent, no reason to lie... we are anonymous here). When the police came and arrested me they questioned me without a lawyer present and I naively thought I should answer their questions because I knew I was innocent and had nothing to hide. Well... my lawyer told me the things I said in the interview WOULD be used against me and could have been the difference between me being found guilty or innocent. It never went to trial, I actually have no idea why. I got a letter through months later saying the charges had been dropped, no explanation of the reason... but yeah the moral of the story is absolutely do not say anything about anything unless your lawyer has told you what to say.

From your original post I really don't think you have anything to worry about, but better safe than sorry.

murphythecat wrote:


But I gotta wonder if that sort of answers would put me in trouble? Why would I shouldnt answer any questions? isnt that weird?
why souldnt I just say that its for soap. mhrb do contains proprieties good for skin problems and naoh is used widely for soap. just need to add that I am waiting impatiently my castore fat to make those great soap!


Exercising your right to silence is not weird and all police are fully aware that if you are not answering questions it means you are at least a little aware of how things work. Even IF they thought it was "weird", who cares.

Telling them it is for soap or whatever leaves you open to being tripped up and them catching you out in the lie. Soap making is a good excuse, if it ever came to it then you and your lawyer would work on a statement about your soap making intentions, until then just don't say anything.

Watch the video that is linked in this thread. It is funny and very informative and is ended by a police man coming on and saying that the lawyer is absolutely right.
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#40 Posted : 5/16/2012 7:09:29 AM

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Speaking from a life of experience I can say the person that will most incriminate you is yourself. Say nothing until you see a attorney. Any plea deal will be brought before your signed confession it is their sole goal for without it they must burden their actions with a trial of proof that is expensive and difficult. I know for a literal fact that this is the case. Trials are expensive and require resources that most legal entities are not willing to expend except on high profile cases. use the overburdened process against them and make them literally prove their case, dont give it to them on a golden platter, take this form a man who has fought conviction 4 times by a federal court. And thusly offered a plea deal that would amount to a slap on the wrist in most of them as a result of his stubbornness. They will do anything to get you to agree to go without trial unless you are on the front page of a newspaper, simply put they cannot afford to try you. They will try every trick in the book and your attorney will comply with them but if you hold out and refuse to take anything else they will relent. I know this for a fact, I have been there, more than once.
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