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hostilis
#1 Posted : 5/14/2012 9:57:16 PM

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I am pretty new to the world of extractions, but my first one went pretty good. I am now on my second extraction. I started with 150g of mimosa hostilis root/bark, vinegar, distilled water, sodium hydroxide, and VM&P naptha. I have a feeling that this one will go better than last.
I started by putting the 150g of MHRB in a saucepan. I did two 90 minute acid washes, and the last one lasted 4 hours.


After each acid was i would let it cool for a bit and then pour off the top into a ceramic dish, then i would let that decant and filter it through a t-shirt. After the t-shirt filter i decant for an hour while the other acid was is going and then i filter through a fine, cone shaped coffee filter. I repeat this on the final extraction and then i wash the mimosa out one more time with distilled water to get the rest of the DMT acetate out of the MHRB.


After this Is clean out the saucepan. I mix all of the liquid with DMT acetate into it again and then boil all of the liquid down to about 300 ml. Then i basify to a PH of 14. Then i do the pulls with VM&P naptha. I used about 20-30 ml for each pull, i did 3 pulls.

The last pull formed an emulsion, but i was out of lye so i couldn't separate all of it. But i freeze precipitated all of the naptha i could get from it and this is the final product. It looked pure white while precipitating, but not as yellow as my last product. (last product top, this product bottom)


I still have not yet weighed it due to my scale being in the mail right now, but i am not going to try it until i get that scale so i can see how much i got out of it. I did get more out of it than my last extraction of 100g of MHRB. I have grown an interest in doing the extractions almost more than dosing. Thank you everyone who has helped me during this process. Very happy
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hostilis
#2 Posted : 5/15/2012 7:06:12 AM

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I'm not sure why it keeps coming out yellow. Is it maybe because i do the pulls when the MHRB liquid is still pretty hot, making it pull plant carbohydrates as well as the DMT salt
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hostilis
#3 Posted : 5/16/2012 12:37:13 AM

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My yield was only .691g, I'm not sure what exactly happened, but now that i have a scale, maybe it will be a better yield next time.
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#4 Posted : 5/16/2012 2:12:25 AM

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perhaps try adding some salt to help the emulsion break (makes the water more polar), or add more lye, that works too.

Also, consider doing longer pulls in a hot water bath, stirring/emulsifying often. Even if you get semi dirty spice, you can clean it up w/ another freeze precip. I find yields are a bit better with longer heated pulls using naptha/heptane.

The final thing i could recommend is to do a few days acidic water soak (fumaric, vinegar, etc) before cooking your bark. I really don't even cook my bark, just heat it up in a narrow container with distilled water and vinegar in the microwave until almost boiling. Let it sit, shake often, and pour off the already decanted and filtered liquid 2 days later, leaving the bark for another cook/soak. It takes about a week, but its easy as pie, almost no filtering, and i've gotten excellent yeilds using this method, 2%+ on some extractions. Pulling full spectrum with limo though.

Still pretty decent results for a 2nd extraction, and that spice looks very nice Razz.

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