I have experience the divine infinite splendor of the Supreme Infallible Being.
I have had many other experiences along the way, as I made daily journey for some 4 to 5 months. This was some 5 years ago. I am a very experienced traveler.
Being so advance and having not advanced to anything new in some time, I had decided to push farther into the frontier, I felt like I was a pioneer at the fringe and that it was time for me to break through to unexplored, unknown realms of power.
I bought this DVD called AV3X- the Innerscape Adventure (Digital Meditation creating light and sound pulses to the rhythm of 7 to 12 beats per sec, <which is suppose to throw your brain into meditative state, but I believe it puts your mind in to a hypnotic state which is very different>.
I wanted to integrate this and sensory depravation.
Things went very wrong.
I fell in to total darkness I saw the perfect number (what ever it was I do not recall) and then it was like I slammed in to a dark wall.
Terror ensued as the offensive assault began on my soul (I when I say terror I mean terror unlike it is impossible to imagine unless you have experienced for your self, if everyone I love was to be put in front of a train and I has to sit and watch while each on was splattered, it would not compare with the terror I speak of). I felt as if I was told, “you just had to go to far and mess everything up”.

I sat up and tried to get out of the dimension. I opened the curtains to allow sun light into my studio. In a fit of disorientation and a fury of panic I was slamming my fist in to my palm, slapping my face jumping up and down, and running around, trying to make sense of what had just happened.
The following day I decided go back to the old fashion way, with out the DVD or sensor deprivation.
However, I was told “You are not welcome, you have abused the sacred privilege by asking for too much, and then the assault began (The assault was terror, and like I had thousands of being crawling all over me tormenting me), I was better prepared for their fury, and I was furious at these being for banning me from their world, I cursed at them, and telling them they had no right to keep me out, (much like a little child would throw a tantrum at the supermarket). On 4 occasions over the last 5 years I have tried to go back but, I have had no luck, it is always the same thing. Can anyone give me advice, I have read the (DMT-Nexus Wiki:Health and Safety) and many other post. I have taken up meditation, for years trying to get back there naturally, but I would still love to see it again. Any advice anyone.
Thanks,
Rising Splendor

Man i do not know of that sorry.
Every time i partake the DMT effect is always overpowering terrifying as such, but meant.
I am still a freshmen, just starting to form and question.

Maybe you should change what you want from the DMT?
Question different, or go somewhere new, see something new, or try going back to basics if possible and have a small dose and expect nothing but a touch from it?

I have experienced something similar to the terror you describe. The last time I consumed dmt was about 8 years ago, I had to take this time off to reset, I didn't feel like I was ready to go back (and I was still a bit freaked out).

If you feel that you're ready to return, but other forces feel differently and push you back, I don't have any advice, you might just need to wait a bit longer? Bummer, sorry to hear this,

Yea man, I too have had that 'your not welcome here' phase and it's not fun. It only lasted a few months where I would take a small hit just to dip my toes into infinity and wait for the message to either continue or stop. Also it carried over into my mushroom adventures which from there it's alot more tolerable and forgiving which allowed me to get the personal insight that I needed to realize what was blocking me ......then it lifted and all is well on my end.

I wish you the best.........DON'T BELEIVE IN THE EVIL, IT'S ONLY REAL IF YOU LET IT BE!

Hola!
I have had experiences with certain Demonic forces masquerading as higher powers and then trying to bluff me out by telling me things like..."you really screwed up" "Your not welcome anymore" "it's too late for you" and etc. I call this demonic force "The Accuser".

I noticed this tends to be a more frequent occurrence whenever I don't fully breakthrough, I tend to be more vulnerable when ever I'm sort of on the "outskirts" of having a full breakthrough experience.

I would suggest trying either Ayahuasca or smoking DMT with a large amount of Caapi....
what I call a mini-huasca...this may provide you some much needed light during your journey.

As far as I am aware the DMT entities may restrict your travels based on your particular level of personal spiritual advancement. I don't believe that they flat out block anyone out unless that persons intentions are horribly off. From your post it doesn't seem like your intentions are flawed to me.

If you really do think you being barred from tripping by a higher power and your sure for whatever reasons that it's not demons then you might try asking the DMT entities to give you the reason why they are doing this. Maybe ask them if there are any behavioral changes that they require of you.

That happened to me the other day and I believe it was because I did not prepare well enough , by smoking the spice in hurriedly fashion. I have also met people in which dmt stops effecting them and I thoroughly believe it is from not respecting the spice enough.I however do not know the solution to this but I am going to make sure that I pick a much better time, setting and to make my next session much more ritualistic.

You said you read the health and safety, not sure if you also saw this FAQ entry regarding dark trips/denied breakthrough:

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m..._experiences_anymore_.3F

While this might not be the best of advice I think you need to get a sitter and brew some strong aya. Go in without an agenda. If you feel it is a certain entity harassing you either confront it or ignore it. If you feel it is an entity you have disrespected go in and find out what you have done to disrespect it. This phase will pass for sure just make sure you are being respectful, think twice about your motives and remember to smile

I had a similar experience when I decided to try tripping to binaural beats. They play two different frequency tones steadily into each ear and the difference is heard internally as a pulsing beat. Similarly, they say this is good for meditation and opening your subconscious but I think it's better for hypnotism. I was excited to try out the new combination, but was equally frustrated with the results as you. I almost immediately started dry-heaving after my first toke and couldn't even finish the bowl as I was bombarded with these painful and disgusting feelings in my head and body.

It's the only disappointing experience I've had, and I feel like things haven't quite been the same since. But I think the key is to remember what you love about dmt and what about it excites you. Use THIS energy to launch into hyperspace, not the fear that you have to carry from the other lesson. The entities play on your doubts and ambitions.

I don't know what to say... I am overwhelmed by the out flowing of compassion you have all shown me. To take the time that you all have to offer up your experiences, thoughts, feelings, is staggering.
I have begged forgiveness. I been meditating for years to try and get back to reality.
I have told everyone that I have ever spoken with in depth with about DMT, that it is not a drug, but the Avatar for the west, the peephole to the possibility of the cosmos.

Regarding a few comments: I have tried dipping my toe and testing the waters, but let me just say, what use to take 3 solid hits to make a complete breakthrough, is no achieved with a half of a hit.

I tried shooting it and it and 1/5 of what it was taking everyone else got me there. It is like i get there and I bounce back immediately. I have cleansed the area before with sage, I have had a dear shaman friend do the same, but to no avail I get bounced back.

Oh one thing I forgot to mention is, I was heavy in to the Golden Dawn, I was practicing grey magic along with all of this. I had done the cabbalic cross, and did performed the ritual of the Greater Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram. After cleansing the area, I evoked it, using the Greater Evoking Ritual of the Pentagram. But that was the first time I had ever Evoked after banishing.

One of my strongest thoughts as to what happened was... where I was going would have destroyed my mine (not my soul) but my mind. I often wonder if I would have went past that wall of darkness that I would have confused my mind, and therefore I was being protected.

Many many thanks to everyone who has posted, this is the finest board I have ever belonged too.
5 years ago there wasn't anything like this so I am honored to be in the company of so many kind souls that understand what I have gone through, or just care about me enough to write anything, even if you are a new cosmonaut.

Namaste,

Rising Splendor

(EDIT: I posted this in its own thread in the Trip Reports section)

wow that sounds incredibly intense. There's no light without darkness though

Hey, I hate to get all pop-psychology here, but...

That "accuser" that Eliyahu mentions... We all have one of those. It's a struggle for each of us to come to terms with this self-denying, self-defeating voice in our heads. I know it feels like entities separate from yourself are harassing you, but all is one when you scale back enough- and you need to really examine the self-doubt that is most close to home. Not good enough to draw? To make music? To socialize? It's common to have a voice like this, and it's unsurprising that DMT amplifies it to such a degree.

If/when you journey again and you start getting these "unworthy" messages... Ask them to prove it, show you in what way you are unworthy. I bet they have nothing to show you.

This all may simply be a case of confronting your self-doubt head on.

You can do it.

If I agree that every entity I see is a manifestation of my subconciouss then I might as well have them put a Straight Jacket on me and call it good.

I mean I know guilt does come into play during the psychedelic experience but....

In response to Guyomech,
If you are saying that your are you mind or body, and that Al Robot is experiencing a DMT induced psychosomatic regurgitation of the past problems caused by his childhood up till the present, I truly feel that you are off the mark.
"We are not our minds we are not our bodies, we are the sprit... and there is no greater truth, and when ever your mind wanders from that thought bring it back". (Shinzen Young) who was quoting a yogi.

When I was told that "You have abused the sacred privilege, and are no longer welcome here, lol, my mind was not playing tricks on me.
I was given precise instructions/direction, by a majestic being, i was told, "Go be with your wife and children". Be is the key word in that sentence. the verb: To Be
I am
He is
She is
It is
We are
You are
They are

We will leave out the contracted form, and just deal with the basic verb.
I AM, that I AM. The Great I AM.
You can call this being what ever you like, The Over Soul, The Father, Lord of Lords, God of Gods, Alpha Omega, YHVH, Yahwen, Allah, Krishna, etc...
This compound is the Avatar for the west, that can bring enlightenment and get the sprit of man on the right track. It is not a psychosomatic mind trip that you can take it or leave type of a situation.
Every voyage can be of significance, intention is real, but intention will not lead you where you want to go, (as AluminRobo found) nor will your mind play tricks on you, which you are suggesting might of happened to AluminiumRobo.
The entities at play here are extremely serious about every event/encounter we engage them in through the Avatar of the DMT. When we breach the vail that separates our realm/dimension, from these entities, they are delighted/overwhelmed to see us and for us to be there, be it for their purpose of good or malice.
When that great being told me to "Go Be with my family", it was spoken in the command form.
When tears of joy, sorrow, and understanding pour from your eyes, and you bow from the front from behind, both sides and every direction to this great being, and you know that this world is a world of unconsciousness, and that none of this is real...
Well.
AlumRobo, Your point is valid and important, you said, "I really think people should know about this, the dark side needs to be discussed more. Not so much to ward people off, as to maybe find a way we can combat or deal with this". Please start the post AlRobo, I look forward to joining the discussion.

Sincerely,
Rising Splendor

Maybe if you could develop a different perception of the drug itself you could start experiencing "breakthroughs" For example drop the entities idea, and look at dmt as if it where a powerful tool for self exploration and nothing more, a mere psychedelic experience. Add the what if and scientific approach to your journeys. Play with it, use your imagination and create a wave of technicolor light and blast this darkness, use your imagination, the possibilities are endless.I always empty my glass before embarking my mind through psy. Also Im not sure of your setting, but add trippy lights, statues, sculptures, art, water drops or whatever. Even better go for a hike or somewhere scenic. Best of luck.

I am trying to articulate my thoughts the best i can, if i come accross as rude or judging please understand thats no my intention.

You seem to have a genuine good nature and intentions. This is too your credit. However, you seem positive that you know who these "beings" are and what/ why they are telling you. Id ask how you can be so sure? what proof to you have? perhaps you could share it with us?

The nature of pyschadelics often blows our mind; were shown what we believed to be impossible, often breaking down barriers and leaving us a lot more open to the 'impossible'. the downside to this however, is that we can sometimes go too far- we lose our ability to think criticaly and rationaly. This, i think, is why pyschadelic experiences are needed to be done rarely, with enough time to integrate the experience and keep our critical/ rational mind expanding also. Too much one way and we can be closed minded, too much the other and we can reach a delusional state. (delusion in the sense that we detatch from our collective reality; a reality founded on reason, rational and critical understanding).

DMT is an incredible substance. However, its hugely powerful. What we must except is that we dont really know what it is; what I summise so far is that it helps unlock the deeper unconcious of our mind- rather than litterally transport you to other beings. However, thats just one of many ideas. I am in no way sure- what i know is that i dont know.

Perhaps thats your problem? your going into the experience with too much prejudice (in this case, the bias of your hardened beliefs)your going in believing an intermentional being doesnt want you there, and what do you know, he kicks you out.

id advise, as others have, look at it from a different angle. Have a look at hoffmans view on pyschadelics for exploring the mind, look at some physics to see their take on the univers. Then, go back in with an open mind and see what happens.

There are many things I'd like to say about this topic, but unfortunately time is against me this morning so I'll have to keep this brief.

I've had a similar experience to the one you describe, and it actually caused me to take a time out from psychedelics for awhile. Basically what happened to me was I was having a hard time breaking through (on mushrooms), and there was this divide in my conciousness that was incredibly unpleasant. One 'side' of me was berating me, telling me how unworthy I was of the secrets of hyperspace and how if I broke through this time I'd die for sure. Then the other 'side' of me said everything would be fine, that I've crossed the threshold before and could easily do it again.

Well I finally did break through once I started only listening to the 'side' of me that kept encouraging me. When I did pop out into hyperspace, I saw sitting on the inside of my face (what I assumed to be the inside of my face) a cutesy, adorable Christmas style elf. I seemed to know in that instant that the 'side' of me which was telling me all these horrible things was actually this little elf playing a trick on me. Once I was out into hyperspace looking 'down' on it, it stared at me with horrified eyes, as if it thought I was going to grab it and strangle it for being caught in the act of deception. It sort of just poofed itself out of my vision shortly after that.

I don't know if I had expended to much mental energy noticing this elf (it is to this day the most detailed being I've ever witnessed in hyperspace), but shortly after this experience I was ejected from hyperspace and a booming voice said to me over and over again "You have no idea the powers with which you deal. You want a lesson? I'll give you a lesson! How about... YOU HAVE LIMITING BELIEFS!!!" (my intention for this trip was to be taught a lesson... in a way my request was granted just not in a pleasant sort of way).

Having had much time to contemplate these happenings, I've come to a relative conclusion about what this was all about. It's worth noting before I begin that I fall on the spiritual interpretation of the psychedelic phenomenon so your mileage may vary with what I have to share.

The first being I honestly think was a prankster; he didn't really mean me any harm but saw an opportunity to have some fun with an unsuspecting human. I subscribe to a version of meme theory that suggests that thoughts have their own freestanding existence in the medium of the mind. If your interested in this idea I'd suggest Dawkins book 'The Selfish Gene', although I don't subscribe to his very hard materialist interpretation of the cosmos. Basically, our minds are a medium that thoughts evolve in, and our process of thinking is their sustenance. Since this medium is the mind, a thought being would be able to take on whatever form it wanted to sort of trick you into getting what it wants from you. So here I experienced a state of being told I was unworthy (so we can call this elf being Unworthy for reference). When I arose into the mindscape I could 'see' in that way we all can in hyperspace, so when I went to look at what was causing me to feel this unworthiness, the being Unworthy assumed the form of an elf, either to decieve me into thinking it was harmless or maybe it really was harmless and I was projecting my own feelings onto it, thus causing me to get the mental feedback of 'elf' and construct an appropriate mental image. I digress though. Personally, I think this entity was a thought form of some variety.

I interpret the second voice in my experience as the theosophic 'dweller on the threshold'. What I consider this to be is the accumulation of my fear and self doubt, possibly from several lifetimes. It's all the shit I don't want to ever have to look at again and it serves a valuable function in being a sort of yard stick for spiritual growth. This fear based being I myself have created and its an illusion brought about by my limiting beliefs and assumptions I've always held about life that just don't serve my highest good. Only once these are let go can I ascend past this being into the higher realms of spiritual understanding. To ascend past this being is to accept it, to acknowledge it for what it is which also signifies one is ready to ascend higher on the spiritual path.


Again, these are my own personal interpretations from a personal experience. I share them hoping you can extract some nugget of truth, but don't take my ravings as some sort of fact.

i'm not a doctor, just a redneck who enjoys chemicals, but here's my $.02:

yr problem may have started with that DVD... external stimuli are tricky... you are buying the product of another human being, who is attempting to alter YOUR brain patterns, by way of an electronic robot... let that sink in... by definition, music is basically the same thing, but when a musician is doing his thing and doing it properly, he isn't thinking... he's existing outside of time... the programmer who authored your DVD, maybe not so much... maybe something was going on in HIS head when he programmed those beats... something that kept him sort of "locked out" of the positive, kind of like you are now... so he makes a beat that enters him into a trance, but since he's locked out of positive experience, his beats tend to steer him to the path that does work... & now, you are being steered on the same path... or were, that once, and are now fixated... i know of no science to back this, it's just a thought...

as far as the now, all i can offer is a piece of redneck wisdom that helped me through a similar situation... it goes against the grain of this but, when i found myself in a situation very similar to yours, it worked for me:

"There's a horse out there, & he threw ya... now, every time you look at him, all you can feel is that ground, & how it stung... you're so busy being afraid of that ground that you can't even think about how easy and natural it is to just ride... & that's what you gotta do, you gotta get up on that horse & ride mang... otherwise yr just standin' there, thinkin' about the ground..."

Thanks for all the input.
I would first like to say, that when I started this voyage, there were no boards on this, I think it was early 2007.
All I knew was that Ken Kiezy said:
"take the best 10 LSD trips of your life, combine them in to one trip and then crunch that 8 hours in to 15 minutes and you have DMT".
I have never used LSD, I had no concept of what everyone else has experienced or what I was going to experience.
I was a blank slate in that regard.
All I knew is that it was that you would see amazing colors and patterns, and you might see some spice elf's, what ever those would look it just sounded comical.

Well how do I say this... as we all know there are not words to explain much of what you see when you break through.
If a thousand sun were to rise up in the sky all at once, it might resemble the brilliance that I was engulfed in. A grand was standing next to me at about 8 to 9 feet tall. This majestic being was as brilliant as everything around me, when he turned to me, and said... "you are the resurrection", (I still have no clue what that means) and then this being layer upon layer pealed away the fabric of my unconsciousness, until I stood staring at the infinite.
Know that most people know what the definition of nirvana is, I have experienced, I have seen the divine infinite splendor of the cosmos, and have cried tears of joy, tears of sorrow, and tears of understanding.

So when someone says to me "Maybe if you could develop a different perception of the drug itself you could start experiencing "breakthroughs"
I think to my self... "This is no drug, it is the Avatar for the west".
or "You seem positive that you know who these "beings" are and what/ why they are telling you".
LOL, I have no clue who these beings are. I am not Christian so as for this being telling me that I am the Resurrection... Well I would have no clue where it is coming from.

I traveled at least 2 time a day for a solid 5 months. I am no cadet, I would have to think I was somewhere around captain when I was court marshaled.

I am grateful for everyones input, it does help me understand that we will never get it.
In fact one of these beings said to me once, "You don't get it", and I believe I replied, "get what", and then the being said, "No... you don't get it", so I agreed, and he said, "You don't get it", I replied, "I know I don't get it", and then a booming of unexplainable volume said "No you don't get it"! At this point I said nothing.
It is not possible to get it, I think most people on this board understand that we are sleeping. The world that we exist in is not as real as where we have traveled.
Really, how many people did you try and call after your first break through. No one cares about this reality once you have seen the infinite.

Why was I bowing from the front, from behind both sides and in every direction as the tears poured from my eyes?
I had never meditated in my life, nor had I sat in the lotus position, however, when I came out of this experience, I was not only nude but I sitting in a perfect lotus position.
I am short on time right now, and I would love to add more.
Thanks everyone for the input.
Very best,
Rising Splendor