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How long do you leave your bark in the solution before seperating it out? mistakes were made
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What is "little product" ? Did you weigh it? How much % of initial starting product? Is mimosa from reputable supplier?
What do yu mean with "separate bark from solution", do you filter the solution after adding lye? If so, you shouldnt.
Also notice chloroform might react with DMT like DCM does, do not leave DMT in chloroform for too long. Cant you have access to other solvents?
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Yeah chloroform sucks for an STB unless you want to be filtering loads of bark out it... which you could... I just think STBs best when you have a solvent that sits on the top.
Best to A/B so you actually have all the DMT in solution. DMT freebase is very poorly soluble in water so you were doomed from the start when you removed the bark as most of the DMT was still in there.
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ok i filter the bark from the solution.. because if i add chloroform there it reacts and make a lot of vapors when it is in contact with organic tissue... ok.. so i have to filter then i put some ml of chloroform and stir it for 5 minutes then separate this...
so i have succes usin zippo lighter naphta.. but is expensive.. 10 dollars 100 ml... so imagine me always buying this... is to expensive for me... so always buy more 10 more dollars for 100 ml naphta.. i frezee precipitate and get good yields.. but i need information on how to use chloroform CORRECTLY... i remember i read something about to not use more ph than 9 when u extract with chloroform.. and doing acid base extraction.. dont know why... thats why im asking... so i have 2.5 ltrs of chloroform and it cost me 40 dollars..
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and my yield is little.. imagien i get good results with naphta... but is still xpensive for me.,. i know its a small yield very lower than with naphta... but my real situation is it is expensive for me.. so i read a guy doing this with chloroform obtaining the oil goo,,, and then recrystalised it with a lil bit of naphta wich will not be expensive for me... and then getting real crystals dmt... but i dunno
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Just A/B 
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Have you tried buying naphtha from the internet? Or is that expensive as well? Here naphtha and other solvents are dirt cheap and are definitely a better alternative than chloroform, but I know prices are different everywhere. -Я Ξ √ Ω L U T ↑ Ø N-
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fine.. but can u explain me.. why stb doesnt work ??? and u tell not to separate the bark cuz it doesnt disolve in water(the dmt) ... and is it not suppsed to dissolve the dmt when the ph is in 13... is not the ph to high?? cuz dmt pka is 8,63 so... i do the acid base ok.. but.... any explanation why stb sucks with chloroform ???
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i would like to buy naphta at internet but i feel scared about someone investigating me.. just for buying that shit
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ecuadorianmush wrote:fine.. but can u explain me.. why stb doesnt work ??? and u tell not to separate the bark cuz it doesnt disolve in water(the dmt) ... and is it not suppsed to dissolve the dmt when the ph is in 13... is not the ph to high?? cuz dmt pka is 8,63 so... i do the acid base ok.. but.... any explanation why stb sucks with chloroform ??? When you do an STB the most of the DMT stays in the bark. Its the contact between the solvent and the bark that gets the DMT. The water is there to aid the reaction and lubricate. With an A/B you cook your bark in water in an acidic phase so the DMT becomes water soluble. Then you can filter out the bark, add your lye or whatever and mix in your solvent... chloroform will be happy with this.
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wow fine!!!... so then i make the reight recrystalization with naphta i think...
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one more.,.. i have this bark.,. and i filtrate it..., MAY I!!! turn it acidic at ph 2 - 3 and then basified with lye at 9- 13 and then extract withj chloroform or it will be trash.. to turn again the freebase dmt into water soluble to use the chloroform againb,... hopw u understanD!
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i mean like reuse the bark.. as i gave it a bad use...
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or maybe add acid.. at ph 3 and then turn it waters soluble and the add again lye ??? somethiong like that
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when you lower the pH of the bark solution, boil it for a couple of hours, filter, add more acidic water to it, boil again, etc for 3 or 4x.. Just check any a/b in the wiki extraction teks. Dont defat with chloroform, specially if you use vinegar as an acid, because dmt acetate is somewhat soluble in chloroform. So just do normal a/b, base, pull with chloroform. Then you will probably have an impure product which you can purify with smaller amounts of naphtha if you want. by the way, you can just "edit" the post instead of making multiple successive short ones 
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FINE!!ª!! if i get good yields.. i will put my pics... thanks ppl! all ur knowledge
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One solution could be buy the $10 naptha. Do an stb tek and do either two 50ml naptha pulls or three 33ml pulls and stick in freezer. Once the crystals have precipitated pour off the naptha from the crystals and re-use your naptha for more pulls and for re-x. I think you will do better this way and at least you're not spending a fortune on naptha. Chloroform sounds far too tricky. Hope this helps  edit: for your next extraction i was thinking.
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