Sounds good, I will go on eBay and check it out.

Will Do..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


lmfao..!

I agree with the general consensus regarding the use of a reliable torch lighter when using a GVG or VG.

Many torch lighters can be pricey, however, if you don't have a lighter that works every time you need it, it really isn't worth it.

That being said. While recently at a local smoke shop, I saw they sold torch lighters that had the adjustment capability and refill capabilities for $5. It also has a VERY large resevoir for butane.

I have been using it now for several months with stellar results.

Bottom line, don't hesitate to grab a cheaper torch while you have your hunt on for the torch you want to keep for long term use. They are cheap enough, I bought a 2nd one at the same time to make sure I had a backup.

I don't think there's anything magic about expensive torch lighters. If you have one that works every time you need it, has an adjustable flame, and is refillable, I think you have a touchdown.

Just saying

Great post. I'm gonna be buying a torch this week sometime.

Yeah, I bought one today at the local head shop. It is curved like "the arc", but it isn't the arc. It was $25, it seems pretty good. Bought some quality butane too.

How do you guys make your little copper pad for the spice? I bought some chore boys, but how do you get it apart. Do you take scissors and cut off a little piece and then unwind it all and build it from scratch?

Hi guys.

I have problems with spice dripping through...

Using-

GVG
3 screens, copper mesh, preheated and dmt melted on.

Maybe i'm heating too quickly/slowly?
Or inhaling too quickly/slowly?

Would some leaves help? Underneath or on top of the copper?

Thank you!

Cut a piece off with scissors and then shape it into a thin disc with a diameter just slightly smaller than the GVG chamber. No need to unwind it.



If you’ve properly prepared your copper disc, you don’t need any screens at all.

How quickly/slowly are you heating it?
How quickly/slowly are you inhaling?

Awesome. Thanks.

Gibran,

I just made 3 copper scrubbers of different thickness.

1. Does it really matter how thick/thin/compressed they are?

2. I heated them all up with a torch lighter to do an intial burn off and they all lose that bright copper color. This is normal right????


Thanks.

Here’s my opinion:

You need enough copper ribbon to allow a typical dose of liquid DMT to cling to it, and you need it loose enough to allow hot air to pass through it, rather than forcing the air around it. If you have too much, it will be difficult to get all of the copper hot enough, so the DMT will migrate to the relatively cool center and fail to vaporize.

So not too much, not too little. Keep it loose enough for air to flow through it, but not so loose that powdered DMT falls right through during loading.

As far as torching the copper – it’s unnecessary. Just soak your discs in alcohol for a few minutes, rinse them off in water, and let them dry. Too much heat will cause the copper to oxidize (turn crusty black), and there’s a remote possibility that you might inhale a tiny loose fragment.

thanks for the quick reply....I guess I need to go make some more copper scrubbers....I torched them all and they turned to a gray color....

I am noticing a lot of talk about using copper mesh. This is the same trick that is used to prepare a stem for smoking crack. Ten years ago I was addicted to crack, and during that time I found stainless steel mesh to work just as well. They are typically sold side by side so if you have the option please go with the stainless steel. No matter what you choose to use(including a bunch of screens), the metals always need to be burned as much as possible before using. This is to make sure that anything that may have gotten on them during manufactue is burned off and not smoked by you. If you fail to preburn the mesh/screens you may end up tasting metal in your spice. Any of these metals screen products will work but please remember to preburn.

Edit: After burning make sure to wash the now burned metal mesh with soap and water to remove the oxidized metal fragments. You will see a lot of smoke come off while burning, this is a good thing, that is smoke you dont end up inhaling. Washing afterwards is also necessary for reasons given by others on this thread.

I recently ordered a GVG and have yet to use it. I'm waiting for my current xtraction to finish so I have something to put into it. I was wondering how big a flame would be too big. I have an 80 dollar torch that is highly reliable and very strong. It can be adjusted but the flame is still pretty big. The blue cone extends about 3/4 of an inch on the lowest setting. Does anyone have experience using a large torch, and did you find it to be usable with the GVG? Any advice would be greatly appreciate it. I may end up buying a smaller one just in case the one I have is too strong.

How large is it? As long as you can wield it with one hand, it goes out when you take your finger off the button, not be broken or break anything else if it's dropped, and it can shoot a flame down the GVG, you're good to go.

Hi, just realized I probably posted my query in the wrong thread...

Regarding GVG and screens... has anyone tried these? http://aqualabtechnologi...en-5-8-inch-60-wire.html the mesh appears to be a tighter weave and this company says it is for use with "powder resins" -- 5/8" is same size as VG's screens. It would seem to me that this sort of tight weave would negate use of multiple screens or copper scrubbers, etc... unless the screens provided by VG are also a similar super-tight weave.

It seems that the wire is round? With round wire the possibility of dripping is high, I recommend you look for flat wire/ribbon type of screen solution as it doesn't drip. Steel and copper scrubbers have been used with good results

oh hmm, i hadn't considered the actual shape of the wire itself. I ordered two of those screens anyway to test out, but i'll have plenty of the intended screens with the GVG's arrival, and can get scrubbers readily enough. i'll let you know if i have any success with the aqualab ones. thank you for the reply!

I can guarantee the GVG is the one!! The hit is so clean feeling, both on the lungs and the brain!!

I was wondering: It would be a real shame if such an expensive pipe were to
become dirty on the inside and then you can't open it to properly clean it.
Can this pipe be opened so that the bowl can be properly cleaned on the inside?

Also, would DMT extracted from MHRB using a STB-tek with Water, Lye & Naphtha be pure
enough to vaporise completely in a VG or GVG wthout leaving hard to remove stains?