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Oneiroi
#1 Posted : 5/9/2012 6:40:07 AM

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What are some ways to powderize cactus after drying cactus star chips? My coffee grinder and blender broke so I was wondering if there are some other ways to do this. Also, would yields from an extraction like 69ron's D-Limonene tek be significantly reduced if the cactus was not powderized and just tossed in as dried cut up star pieces (not powder).
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mew
#2 Posted : 5/9/2012 8:04:47 AM

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1. stars suck for eating, because they contain the least potent white layer and core

2. impotent cactus parts are more of a pain in the ass to extract, especially if your clone wasnt potent to begin with

3. ive used a massive wooden mallet and a rag driving in a van, so im sure you can think of something

4. if they arent totally dry, rock a large knife through the mess and cut into slivers to mush into balls to eat

5. if the skin is on, idk, just dont prep your cacti with the skin on and dry it. it makes extraction and eating a bitch

6. if you havent eaten cactus as a powder or tiny chunks after fasting atleast 12 hours, do so before extracting

7. extract with dlimo!!!! salt with vinegar!!! use an dehydrator with a pie dish in it!!!

8. remember to laugh at tiger woods if you see him, i know i do, with breakfasted mouth full of clementines

9. use the phrase "tripping bananas" to describe your experience to people who might find that term funny

10. those people will find it funny

 
christian
#3 Posted : 5/9/2012 11:48:12 AM

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Oneiroi wrote:
What are some ways to powderize cactus after drying cactus star chips? My coffee grinder and blender broke so I was wondering if there are some other ways to do this. Also, would yields from an extraction like 69ron's D-Limonene tek be significantly reduced if the cactus was not powderized and just tossed in as dried cut up star pieces (not powder).


The idea of powderizing, is that you are powderizing the de-skinned, dried green bit of the Cactus. You need a grinder/blender for this. If you cut and dried star shapes i dunno what you can do except stick them in water and boil them into a tea, unless you use a knife and hammer or something to cut off the green part and stick that in a blender.

You ABSOLUTELY do need to use cactus powder for an extraction tek, to maximise surface area.
The only tek where this doesn't matter is when making cactus tea, where the pieces will eventually dissolve into a green snot type consistency. Sick
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Bezerker
#4 Posted : 5/10/2012 3:23:48 PM

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You ABSOLUTELY do need to use cactus powder for an extraction tek, to maximise surface area


I disagree with this statement. Only because I've done STB extractions with fresh material. Put cactus chunks in a blender and hit puree. Add cactus puree to your extraction vessel. Add water if needed and basify the hell out of it. Works just as good as powder and less chance of emulsion. It called a "Wet Extraction" and it yeilds clean goodies without the need to peel/de-spine/dry or filter. However, you can fit more material in the vessel when its dried and thats an advantage.

I know everyone's gonna tell you to remove the waxy skin layer. I've done it both ways (with and without skin) and the results were the same.
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Oneiroi
#5 Posted : 5/12/2012 11:21:45 PM

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christian wrote:
The idea of powderizing, is that you are powderizing the de-skinned, dried green bit of the Cactus. You need a grinder/blender for this. If you cut and dried star shapes i dunno what you can do except stick them in water and boil them into a tea, unless you use a knife and hammer or something to cut off the green part and stick that in a blender.

You ABSOLUTELY do need to use cactus powder for an extraction tek, to maximise surface area.
The only tek where this doesn't matter is when making cactus tea, where the pieces will eventually dissolve into a green snot type consistency. Sick


Sad Well I had already made a first everclear extraction where I didn't powder the stuff and instead cut into pieces. Today I took resin from about 1 and a half foot of bridgesii and got mild euphoria, slightly uninhibited thinking, and the only visuals were mild size distortions for about 20 minutes. Seems like I did a really poor extraction? Luckily I still have the cactus pieces so I plan on boiling them with the cactus tea method in the future.
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christian
#6 Posted : 5/12/2012 11:39:36 PM

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Bezerker wrote:
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You ABSOLUTELY do need to use cactus powder for an extraction tek, to maximise surface area


I disagree with this statement. Only because I've done STB extractions with fresh material. Put cactus chunks in a blender and hit puree.


Blenderize the fresh cactus, or powderize the dried stuff = Exactly the same. Razz
( This post does after all refer to dried and not fresh cactus!)
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Oneiroi
#7 Posted : 5/13/2012 2:25:53 AM

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What the heck, the cactus surprised me. It's finally peaking after like 6-8 hours... -_-" ANd here I thought it was over. How is this possible? Is my metabolism really slow?!
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mew
#8 Posted : 5/13/2012 3:52:10 AM

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la medicina esta buena
 
Oneiroi
#9 Posted : 5/13/2012 8:00:40 AM

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That really caught me off guard. I thought I was done with my trip and it started kicking in full force at like 8 hours. :O Started getting closed and open eye visuals. My pupils are still saucers, 14 hours later.
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mew
#10 Posted : 5/13/2012 9:03:23 AM

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on a particular occasion i had taken a mild amount of cacti and 10 hours into it smoked just the slightest of jwh while already using mxe and whammo, full on auditory and visual hallucinations that didnt thank me for their summons
 
Oneiroi
#11 Posted : 5/13/2012 5:37:28 PM

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- Ate a banana in the morning to get a little food in stomach, half an hour before dosing.

0:00 : Doses resin of one foot of bridgesii over the course of an hour, rolling resin into balls and swallowing.
3:00 : Feeling minimal effects, decides that the resin was extracted properly. Doses resin from half a foot of cactus over 30 minutes. Dissolved resin in hot water and drank as tea.
5:00 : Mild euphoria and body high, feeling like I'm on MDMA but a little toned down. Things around me look more alive, reminiscent of a low dose of shrooms. Pupils slightly dilated. Very lucid and clear headed like LSD. Only visuals are mild size distortion and a slightly enhancement of colors. Goes swimming. Trip strength becomes very mild after swimming and are only noticeable when reflected on. Effects feel more like MDMA than anything else.
9:00 : Decides to eat some spaghetti. Stomach feels nauseous for the rest of the day. Euphoria and mind effects seem to back to nearly baseline. Pupils still mildly dilated.
11:00 : As the day turns to night, things begin to get strange. Noticeable warping of the walls, as if they are made of water. Very flowing visual distortions. These are the first prominent visuals of the trip. Relaxes on bed. Listens to music, it sounds incredible. Music seems to be very wide and fills up his entire mind, transporting him to a different world. Gives in to the experience fully and allows mind to go where it pleases. Colorful closed eye visuals that seem like visions, can't tell if eyes are open or closed. Upon opening of eyes, open eye hallucinations are seen about 10 seconds and fade away. White stucco ceiling is forming patterns that change constantly. Pupils are the size of saucers, they appear to rapidly dilate and constrict. For the next 4 hours, trip feels very psychedelic and not euphoric like MDMA.
15:00 : Effects seem to be nearly baseline. Brain feels fried. Feel as if I am someone else. Memories are not easily accessible. Pupils still saucers. Goes to sleep.

All in all, it was a really memorable first mescaline trip. I think I'll have to be more careful with dosing and I'll try not to be so caught off guard with the timing of the trip. I found that for most of the trip, it felt like MDMA but then started to feel like shrooms or LSD the last few hours when the visuals kicked in. I can see why you love mescaline so much mew. Smile
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Bezerker
#12 Posted : 5/14/2012 12:32:28 AM

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Bridgesii, from what I've read, has many active alkaloids besides mescaline. Mabye even some MAOI's that helped slow the onset and pro-long the experience.

I would never extract mescaline from Achuma. It should be experienced with its full spectrum of alks. I have much respect for this cactus.

Your trip report sounds like many of my mecaline trips. A bit slower on the onset and a little longer. I usually don't peak until 3-4hrs and lasts usually 12-14hrs. Sometimes you'll think its ending, just to have it rush back and grab you again.Big grin

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Oneiroi
#13 Posted : 5/14/2012 6:33:46 AM

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I actually did a full spectrum alcohol resin extract, so it shouldn't have been just mescaline. I'll have to try to do a mescaline extract to see how it compares.
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mew
#14 Posted : 5/14/2012 6:51:18 AM

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i never use mesc (extracted or not) unless ive fasted atleast 12 hours, though i prefer 18. the effects are significantly intensified


fast all day, dose at sundown, breakfast at sunrise with fruit

 
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#15 Posted : 5/14/2012 3:40:58 PM
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resin takes a while to dissolve in your gut, extracted crystal hits me in 30-45 min sometimes less
 
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#16 Posted : 5/14/2012 10:13:42 PM
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go buy a new blender/coffee grinder....they are like 15 bucks..
 
 
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