When smoking DMT do any of you see a swirling morph of geometrics that constantly change shape for the first 5 minutes? I've read about this and have been told that this could be our DNA. Mckenna says to take another hit and this will break causing a transition to other dimensions. My problem is the more hits I take the less I remember... I want to go further. I was told it was the brains natural way of keeping us safe when closing out the memory during this time.

I have quite a bit experience with the smokeable form of DMT. Atleast a 100 or more. Unlike anything I've ever experienced and no matter how many journeys I take, I always tend to get a bit nervous and anxious before the trip because I don't know what to expect. The trips are rarely the same for me. Sound does have a bit to do with the experience. I prefer total silence. I tend to hear a buzzing sound like the flutter of wings on an insect in my ear moving rapidly. On and off. I've had times where I didn't see dimensional patterns but only gray swirls. I'm very interested in any documentation you all would like to post of your experiences. I'm looking to experiment always. As far as entities go, I have had an occasional scene fo what looked like part insect and part bird maybe. Hard to explain. They look like energy. That's on very rare occasions though. Some people say they've seen mechanical elves and such even comunicated with them. I'd love to experience this. Anyway, I'm looking forward to any documentation of your experiences

Hello friend

You can read about experiences here and here.

That being said, in short, the communication depends on your relationship with entities and how far you go into hyperspace. It not often verbal, it is more like telepathy at least for me, you just understand what they have to say to you without hearing them say.

Anyway, don't expect too much and just be attentive!

Peace.

It took me quite a few years before I reached the point where I could honestly say I encountered another being in the place known as hyperspace. There were tentative flashes of tentacle-like beings (not wanting to sound like Cthulutionist!). And that was with relatively low doses. If you say you have gone to 100 mg already and have not encountered them, are you sure you're actually vaporising your spice, not just burning a good portion of it? I have found that the greatest variable in whether a hit of spice hits home, is smoking technique. Anyway, though a great attractor, it should not be communication with the beings as a goal per se. Rather, let it overpower yo7u and see where it takes you. That's my motto, at least.

As to the fractal-repeating patterns being synonymous with our DNA; it's all up there with what you believe it to be. You see, what you believe it to be is the only truth you should hold on to in these matters. For me personally? A double helix exists in nature; we carry about 6 feet of it in 99.999% of each of our cells(or so I'm told). Why would it not pop up in other places? But I do not place any mystical significance on it. But I'd love to be convinced otherwise..

Peace!

My wife once experienced a vaulted chamber with a swirling DNA strand as the glowing centerpiece. But that may have simply been the best she could describe it- helical motion like that is a fundamental way that forces move (DNA, whirlpools, tornadoes etc) so its not surprising it would turn up in an "anything goes" environment like hyperspace.

Have you ever felt a presence of a guardian-type entity? I have this experience most times I travel, but this being is not necessarily embodied in the form of a robotic elf or anything, but instead seems to be present in the whole environment. With higher doses this presence is stronger and the environment more lively... I suspect that if I dosed high enough the swirling stuff in the space could begin coalescing into something more like a physical embodiment. So far, all robotic creatures I've encountered there seemed extremely limited in their complexity and scope, almost like wind up toys.

The guardian is another story. You'll find other references throughout the forums about this entity. Some of us regularly encounter this being who seems to be directly responsible for our well being, although at the same time it seems sort of large and indifferent. I have wondered if I'm not simply getting a face to face conversation with my own normally hidden subconscious, or if it's something larger and more universal.

Everyone's experiences with the entities is different.

Entities of some sort will show up eventually .

It starts with a simple recognition of a felt presence of an other .

They will not look like anything you expect .
In fact, expecting nothing is really the best headspace to strive for.

Try adding a harmala source of some kind before vaping . Caapi, rue, It will help you to remember and make it a more fullfilling experience.

Careful of expectation and belief systems . This defys all labels .

so far in all my dmt experiences I have been in the hands of very human like entities all of which have helped me to surrender in some really profound and telepathic ways. they usually are covered with nonstop spiraling patterns folding in on themselves and they perform this really beautiful procedure where they like ... soak me through their patterns of brilliant looking light..and they usually go on to perform some kind of cleansing process with me, folding me in and out........ spiral around folding in and out but at a new angle which then procedures to fold in on itself... feeling a strong message with each hyperspatial manoeuvre this thing uses while it works with me. always get the tone of surrender as I am interested to see so many people have in common

It sounds to me like you haven't had a full breakthrough yet. There is a definite line between seeing or sensing entities and having a real full on "contact" experience with the "other".

I can tell you from my own personal experiences that when you make "contact" with an entity you will know it without a doubt!

entity (ˈɛntɪtɪ)

—n , pl -ties
1. something having real or distinct existence; a thing, esp when considered as independent of other things
2. existence or being
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entity

It appears that hyperspace itself is an entity.
One that can be partitioned infinitely according to the given parameters of our law.

Maybe try another method, try water bong once?

I have smoked for 6 years, mostly herbal blends, crystal twice 50mg doses and orange goo once.

Both times on crystal i broke through. the only two times i have fully broken through.

Once into a vortex wormhole.

Recently i met a fully formed entity, i mean as real as an Emerald, solid, it spoke to me through some telepathic/sign language.

I always smoke through water bong always works, though i want to try a new method try.

TRY setting a day to smoke, and put a lot of thought into this prior leading up to it.
You may be amazed with the results, decide what you want from the DMT, be set on what you want before the day.

I rarely smoke to breakthrough, i rarely smoke crystal, it is amazing to breakthrough, just be positive know you will eventually get what you need and want :-)

Id try changa. It is so way less harsh, you can inhale more and hold it and you get the the short term mao inhibition. SWIM made. 1:1 ratio of b. caapi leaf and dmt then a few sprinkles of 10x b. caapi extract and blammo!

What are you using to vape with? Maybe a move onto more efficient methods such as the machine or GVG/VG might help. If you get a full dose in one toke you won’t have time to get second and third toke anxiety. Aside of MHRB the GVG is the best investment I’ve made in this game and I think it paid itself off in one experience alone.

With regards to McKenna’s thoughts on dosing and experience, whilst he is someone with experience who has talked a lot in public about it, he is just one person. Just because he has an experience it doesn’t mean anyone else will have anything like his experiences.

On how entities appear to you, to me it sounds like you have already met them, and maybe this is just how the experience has given itself to you so far, looking specifically for them to be in any particular type, shape or form will most probably be a fruitless experience. You get what you are given in this experience.

Personally, entities I meet are more often than not very abstract and have come in forms as diverse as energy fields, membranes, pillars of light, reptilians, straightforward humanoids, humanoid/rubiks cube cross breeds, amorphous blobs… the list goes on and on, I guess it’s infinite.

Like what sidefx said I'd reccomend putting a good deal of intention into planning your experience. SWIM has had his most powerful and profound expeiences when he created some ceremony around it. Like clean the room, smudge with sage, light some candles and some copal, and he has used an alter burning epsom salt with denatured alcohol. The blue flame has characterized the whole affair before. And finally to set an intention. Like asking a question or for some kind of ispiration or healing. He has been visited repeatedly by little tube like people, whose backs are attatched to the ground and wiggle and kick, but speak clearly, and telepathically. Little helper bug things have crawled aroung inside him fixing shit up, (a very physical sensation). Really these things only happen to him using changa, and with a ceremony.

When I first began traveling, I used a water pipe with bic.. needless to say that is inefficient. My trips were just geometrical patterns, colors, shapes, etc.
But then I came across the freebase method, which I would highly recommend.
Since I've been using my oil burner, my travels are extremely vivid, and incredibly amazing:]

some entities are bad bad

Alot of great suggestions on here. I have to say I have never used a water bong. That seems a bit intense. Worth a try I'm sure. I've tried an oil burner and smoke crystals straight but I can't seem to stomach the raw taste.The 1st time I ever tried it was in a light bulb lol. It was so awful tasting that I gave up on it for a year. Than a friend had some mixed in a cannibis cigarette. It worked than. I basicly mix in layers on a glass pipe of cannabis and DMT. If I can't smoke cannabis than I'll mix with ashes or tobacco . Any suggestions on any mellow mixtures to layer my DMT with? Where to get the herbs? I than use a bic lighter and ignite the mix. I get the bowl rolling a bit and lay off the bic. 2-3 deep puffs and I'm there. I wish we could get together and share experiences. Here in Kentucky there's a limited amount of people open minded enough to even try DeeMsTers. I explain it to some and it frightens them from even trying it. Thank you all for the advice