How can something as simple as a seed 'intelligently' transform into an organism that contains a heart, lungs, brain etc ... It amazes me.

I would love to hear other peoples opinions on this, although my mind is perhaps to simple to understand it

The universe is a playground of possibilities within a given set of parameters.

And the fact that we need to eat food to survive. And the right combinations of certain foods in order to survive 'healthily'. And that everything you need to survive so perfectly exists on this single planet. Like what is a planet even? Why do we exist, what purpose do we ACTUALLY fulfill in our whole lifetime except trying to live purely and to excel in every way we can. (With a few exceptions to certain population of people that just couldnt care less about the meaning of life)

Food = Fuel. Action = Reaction. It's that simple. It can, has, and will get as infinitely complex as it possibly can.

Imagine if a cell in your stomach started asking questions about what it was and what it was doing, it would never understand that it was a part of someones body that couldn't really care less or even fathom it was even partitioned at all.







Or would it?

That's a good analogy. We are exactly the same thing as that one little cell in our bodies, and I think whenever we have a breakthrough psychedelic experience we get a glimpse of the whole complex organism of the universe, that we're a part of.

So if that little cell in your body smokes some dmt, it just might get a glimpse of you.. or wtf am I talking about...

mind = BOGGLED

I'm no expert in science, in fact I have always slept through my science because in high school all I cared about was pot and shrooms, BUT

One theory I always came to think of was:

An Atom, simply put, is basically a nucleus (consisting of neutrons and protons) encircled by a bunch of electrons (I think thats the right word).

Anyway so WHAT IF THE SUN was a nucleus.... and all these planets in orbit around it were in fact the electrons...? Which makes sense because everything we are is energy.

So it is totally possible that every atom that makes us up and the world as we know it, actually just a part of another tiny atom to another tiny atom etc that makes up a HUGE reality for some other universe which in turn is actually just a tiny atom which should you be part of, actually seems huge as well.

And then you look at it and you're like: okay, wait.... hahaha

Does anyone else have a similar view on this?

This and this and this is this, and that is that and this is that-
But all of that is inside of ..
something else,
where words,
and everything else you could possibly think,
become arbitrary.

the very first time i ever made shroom tea, i used only 2grams, boiled it in a cup of water, let soak, and ate the rehydrated and cooked mushrooms after, i went to my room and put off all lights, music etc -complete silence and darkness-
and i just lay there.... and before i knew it i was tripping and seeing very faint opaque CEV's, at which point i started hearing my subconscious talk to me, giving me fact after fact, like this is like this, so that this can be this, so that that can become this and do that, and then it changes into this to do this, etc and it was getting louder and louder and more dramatic until eventually it all added up to the main fact. and it hit me like an explosion. BANG. It was a sudden realization of epic proportions, and the split second i got it i couldnt remember it and awoke with a fright, only to switch on the lights leaving my room in a white haze.... I so badly wish i could have recorded what was going on inside my brain because i truly believe that THAT was the answer to life that everyone needs to know but never will in this physical state of living

Welcome to the life of a psychonaut where more questions lead to more questions and right when you think your onto something your constantly baffled/awed at the complexity of this universe...aren't we lucky to be experiencing this thing called life!
Don't worry about not being able to remember everything with proper time/integration your knowledge will be revealed to you.
IMO we are here to contribute to this human race in one shape or another and continue our genetic legacy by creating life and to live our life to the fullest everyway possible all while raising our children to do the same; unfortunately, there are many people out there who want to defeat this objective.

Awe is a good alternative to absurdism, I think. I like to cultivate it.

A man named Rupert Sheldrake wrote some books that reflect on your question.
It's a good thing to read what other's have to say about these subjects;
a way to construct and balance out your own opinions about things.

changalvia:

If you wish to dwelve into how a seed can turn into a flower or a tree, or how a simple sperm cell can fertilize an eggcell, only later to become a human being, I suggest you start looking into the matter by reading some biology. Even though it seems very magical (which it truly is), there are definitive biological and chemical processes going on to allow for this to happen - processes that are studied thouroughly and understood fairly well within science.

As for the whole meaning of life thing, this is always under much debate. However, all evidence suggests there are no ultimate meaning or purpose to life, or the universe at large for that matter. From the perspective of biology, the purpose of organic life is simply to sustain its living only to replicate and bring on its genes to later generations. There is no grand scheme going on. Of course for us humans, with developed intellects and cognitive capacities, life becomes more than just surviving in order to replicate, so we all find our own purpose in life. But there seems to be no objective, absolute and definitive grand scheme to things, just individual truths about what the purpose of ones life ought to be.

The analogy of yours that the solar system is like an atom is flawed for several reasons. It was originally thought that the electrons orbiting the atomic nucleus were much like planets orbiting the sun, but we know this is not true. The solar system analogy is simply useful for us in order to try to visualize how atoms works, since the truth of the matter is far more complex and weird than our petty minds can comprehend in an intuitive way. Electrons simply don't orbit the atoms like the planets orbit the sun, not even close. In fact, they don't really orbit in the usual sense of this word, and the nature of the interactions governing planets orbiting the sun and electrons surrounding the atom are fundamentally different.

That's all true, but I don't think you nihilists should use absolute sentences like "There is no grand scheme going on.", they come off as rather arrogant. Just like us dreamers shouldn't use sentences like "There is a grand scheme going on."

There's universal proof of nothing, but personal proof of everything.

You're hitting your fists into thin air, daedaloops. I said explicitly and repeatedly that "there seems to be no grand scheme going on" and "from the perspective of biology" and so on. Read my post more carefully before replying to me next time, please.

If you by the statement "There's universal proof of nothing" somehow imply there are not universal truths, then this itself is a contradiction, because by saying this you are already proposing something that is universally true. Furthermore, personal "proof" is worthless in the big picture when trying to address the universe at large.

Yeah no it was just that one sentence that struck my eye... Sorry to be such a nitpicker. And no I wasn't talking about truths, just about proofs, which is a weird human concept. And people are often trying to apply it as if it's something universal.

Come to think of it, this is the dmt nexus, so maybe it needs more people like you to balance out all the "new-age hippie BS"

My thoughts exactly

Maybe i will have my personal proof when i die of whatever causes, i guess we all lead our own separate lives in the end