i don't know what the wavelength is for an incandescent bulb, but it is very inefficient.
blacklight blue is the mercury vapor fluorescent bulb, and they are typically 365 nm.

Hmm. Nothing yet. I still have my guard up, though. Can this really not kick in until hours after ingestion?

unlikely.
30, 45 mins tops.

To the OP, I can say that in the case of 10 grams of HBMGS, extraction is probably not worth it. Curiously I felt nothing, so I wonder what it was exactly that I consumed? And if there was any LSA content in the seeds, what happened to it?

maybe they were pretreated? who knows what storage conditions they were exposed to.
LSA is not as unstable as LSH, but production of it enzymatically is adversely affected by heat.

I think the seeds had no appreciable Ergine content, as benzyme said. They may have been of the Indian(?) origin, which are not potent at all, compared to the ones from the Big Island. This is especially plausible considering they were free.

Did you store the experiment away from UV light?

Wouldn't the seed stop all enzymatic activity after it is removed from the parent plant?


My question isnt whether or not extractions produce a psychoactive substance, but whether they reduce the ill bodily effects enough to be worth the effort of extracting. And by extracting I mean at the very least a nonpolar/polar wash.

Peace

Yea it really helps in my dog's opinion: a Canola oil (NP) wash followed by CWE was clean and grand.

When a CWE is filtered poorly he gets (more) nausea than when it is filtered well. My dog always uses a vasodialator and so can't commend on vasoconstriction effect.

That said there is some potency loss however so starting with a slightly higher seed amount might be recommended.

Blessings.

Thats interesting!

Last time I tried taking MG's I tried a 24hr CWE with conola oil on top. Never shook it. No effects were felt. Took yohimbe with it to combat vasoconstriction, stayed up all night not tripping

What do you use for a vasodilator? I have yohimbe and Gingko Biloboa.

Do you actually soak the powder in the oil and filter? Or carefully mix the oil with the CWE?

I've also noticed filtering the CWE well is paramount.

Hoy many seeds/grams for some really nice CEVs? and light OEVs?

some skunk used canola oil to fry an egg;
used an aromatic solvent (xylene) to defat, then extract free base alkaloids, which were quite active

If you dont have anything to say, keep it that way.

Edit: are you trying to say that canola oil wont do squat benzyme?

What are your thoughts on the health risks of non-lab grade organic solvents?

technical-grade? same health effects from ACS-grade.
read the MSDS, particularly for exposure limits.

I wouldn't be any more concerned with "harmful vapors" from extraction solvents than those you'd be exposed to just filling a vehicle with gasoline.

all I'm saying is I have no trouble with solvents, no troubleshooting needed. If you need to troubleshoot using "food-grade" chemicals, perhaps you need to rethink your strategy.

Kola acuminata CWE is an effective vasodialator which also lends a more euphoric and energetic feel to the experience.

I can't find the tek my dog followed but the oil was not mixed with the water.

I remember him telling me he just covered the seeds in Canola oil and shook them (30 minutes?) before drying (paper towels helped) and continuing with his CWE.

My dog had OEV at 400 seeds; but they were about two years old and the CWE was combined with Cinnamon bark essential oil. No NP wash was done. LSC is said to be about twice as potent as LSH. Both are great; but my dog doesn't like LSA at all.

Blessings.

benzyme: I was thinking more along the lines of purity, and whether or not your getting some carcinogens in the tech-grade nps. For example, some canisters of butane have a warning on them about containing substances known to (the state of california) cause cancer. I'll do some more reading anyway.

Not worried about vapor exposure at all. More worried about cancer. I also understand that theses hypothetical 'carcinogens' would be insoluble in any solvent thats going to contain alkaloids, so no worries there. However, solubility, as I understand it, is not black and white. for example, PbCl_2_ is very slightly soluble in pure water, but is considered an 'insoluble' salt. I'd rather not have trace amounts of some unknown carcinogens in my extract. What do you think about this aspect? Wouldnt ACS-grade be safer in this aspect?

I dont know what you're talking about troubleshooting? Not having any technical trouble, I'm just trying to keep future me healthy.


Are there any food-grade nps that would work here? What type of food-grade volatile nps are you using?

Thanks Flickedbic. Exactly what I was looking for.

I'm assuming you already know that tumors from exposure to carcinogenic chemicals usually takes several years, even decades, to form....not a few overnight extractions. DNA has no problem correcting itself during short-term exposure. Also, if you do a proper isolation of the alkaloids during the A/B extraction process, you wouldn't need to worry about salts like PbCl2.

and the purity of the reagents have nothing to do with it, again, it's relative to exposure limits specified in MSDS.

I've done several extractions of lsa, using bentonite added to the solution. it's not as complicated as you guys are making it seem.

yet another squabble with benzyme about using arguably more toxic solvents

im still good with using dlimo and dry acetone

for me limo works fine and beats an xylene headache anyday.

The idea of using tech grade organic solvents freaks me out. The MSDS says naptha is very slightly soluble in water lol and there are no data for carcinogenic/mutagenic effects. Exposure limit is <.0003% No thanks!

Have either of you guys used D-limo for LSA?

whatever works for you, man.
I use these :ohn0es!: scary chems, and they work well. just did an lsa extraction with dcm last night, and am no closer to having a tumor than you are.

I'd actually be surprised if you got decent yields with orange oil, since lysergamide has a logp of 1.6 (d-limo is 3.4 ) DCM has a logp of 1.5. in layman's terms, logp is a function of solubility, thus LSA is far more soluble in dcm than d-limo.

why are you concerned about using a 'food-grade' solvent? you planning to make a salad?

I am going to eat it! LoL

If I had some lab grade, certified pure DCM I'd use it without hesitation.

I'd even use tech-grade, since I'd eventually evap the solvent anyway.
(it has a high vapor pressure and readily evaps, another reason dcm is favored)