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Compound37
#41 Posted : 5/7/2012 8:08:10 AM

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^YES! After I got the process down, stopped using the stupid preset numbers to a T, and started doing things until they looked and acted exactly right, my crystals haven't ever been purer, nor have my yields ever stopped going UP.

My first powdered was, well, powder and a bit of a pain in the butt to work with.

Later on I used shredded, and then whole back and shredded it myself. I also very much enjoy the process, find it fascinating, and take great pride in it. As most here probably do being all chemistry minded and what not.

I've never used Brazilian bark, so let me know what you come up with there compared to mexican.

Walk in freezer would be really efficient way to keep it cold...haha. Good call on that one man. Smile
"Reality is an illusion, albeit a very persistant one"-Albert Einstein

The answer to life is not 42, It is 37. The flawed 42 was derived from a mistake in calculating the quantum flux of a tenth dimensional hyperspacial wormhole. For proof of my math, please follow me in a nice chaotic line to the fifth dimension for a practical dissemination of the results.

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ChemisTryptaMan
#42 Posted : 5/7/2012 7:50:38 PM

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Compound37: Thanks for the warm welcome. I have been lurking on this site for several years now and finally decided to join at the suggestion of my good friend soulshine. This is the place where I learned everything I needed to know. I will be posting an intro essay soon. I have sooo much to say on sooo many topics that its almost overwhelming. I'm finding that I cant post on most of the topics i wish to yet, but in time I will be promoted and gain that privilege. Until then I will wait patiently behind the scenes. I do want to say that I have a BS in Chemistry and spent two years working on my PhD in organic chemistry but for personal reasons was lead to drop out of grad school. I would still say that without this site I would have wasted a lot more bark trying to get these teks to work. I have mostly worked with a tek very much like nomans with my own personal touches added. I am about to try my first A/B very soon here. I now have a "feel" for the molecule and how it behaves so I'm far more comfortable with trying other teks. I look forward to learning more from everyone here and sharing my knowledge with those who would like to learn from me.

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EzekielCain
#43 Posted : 5/7/2012 8:10:18 PM
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Compound37 wrote:
^YES! After I got the process down, stopped using the stupid preset numbers to a T, and started doing things until they looked and acted exactly right, my crystals haven't ever been purer, nor have my yields ever stopped going UP.

My first powdered was, well, powder and a bit of a pain in the butt to work with.

Later on I used shredded, and then whole back and shredded it myself. I also very much enjoy the process, find it fascinating, and take great pride in it. As most here probably do being all chemistry minded and what not.

I've never used Brazilian bark, so let me know what you come up with there compared to mexican.

Walk in freezer would be really efficient way to keep it cold...haha. Good call on that one man. Smile



It does sound crazy, but it'll let you know when to proceed. I'd never extracted it before yet somehow knew certain things should look different or "feel right". I can't explain it. But it works.

Tonight I start the BIG extraction, the remaining 350g's and going to do half a dozen pulls on it. I love the walk in freezer... Mine at home doesn't get to -10 and stays there. I'll post some pics when I start getting it together.

So exciting!
 
Compound37
#44 Posted : 5/7/2012 11:41:33 PM

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Hey ChemisTryptaMan, with some seriously decent Chemistry knowledge under your belt you should maybe consider helping out with one of the collaborative projects like the Phalaris grass tek that's under production here. Or not, just a suggestion. Smile Looking forward to your intro essay.

I'm anxiously waiting for Data's re-x'd pictures of spice, hope hes got some pure crystals now.

Let us know how the big one goes Ezekial.
"Reality is an illusion, albeit a very persistant one"-Albert Einstein

The answer to life is not 42, It is 37. The flawed 42 was derived from a mistake in calculating the quantum flux of a tenth dimensional hyperspacial wormhole. For proof of my math, please follow me in a nice chaotic line to the fifth dimension for a practical dissemination of the results.

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EzekielCain
#45 Posted : 5/8/2012 12:48:14 AM
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Just started it. I've got a big jar of wonderfully black death sludge being hammered right now by some lye.

Its still too hot to touch, but I'll give it another few stirs and leave her be until tomorrow. I'll let my solvent work its magic for another day and I'll do my first pull on it Wednesday night and have my first yield Thursday night with pictures!

Wish me luck. I'm in anticipation!
 
ChemisTryptaMan
#46 Posted : 5/8/2012 12:52:53 AM

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Compound: I think this may be a topic for a new post but for some reason my computer wont let me post a new topic. I have thought a lot about the phalaris question and have a few points I want to share and hopefully get some good feedback on:
Phalaris has less spice in it than mimosa so a limited solubility solvent like NAPTHA wont pull enough for you to crystallize. We would have to employ some tricks like increasing the ionic strength of the aqueous phase to push the spice out into your NPS. This will not do enough on its own though, you still have to use a better solvent. I would start by trying to pull with an aromatic solvent like xylene and toluene. These solvents pull a lot of other alkaloids(anything aromatic for sure as long as its uncharged) and so the product will be very difficult to separate from all the junk you would pull. From there I would try things like converting to a fumarate, which would take advantage of the fact that DMT Formate has the odd property of precipitating out of acetone. I think doing both of these things may end up working if you had enough grass to work with. I havent tried this and so I don't know if it would work, but it would be nice if all of us could figure it out now and never have to worry about our access to the spice. I'll post an intro essay soon I promise. Hope you all have some good feedback for me.

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Compound37
#47 Posted : 5/8/2012 1:14:45 AM

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^ There we go, thats the kind of stuff that'll get the chem smarties juices flowing. Some of those ideas I've heard similar to on here, haven't heard mention of ionic strength of the aqueous phase for sure, but someone could have used different words. Definitely start up a new topic along those lines in open discussion I would think for now, until your promotion anyway. After that theres four links on this page https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Phalaris_spp. to the threads regarding producing a usable tek.

GOOD LUCK Ezekial. Smile
"Reality is an illusion, albeit a very persistant one"-Albert Einstein

The answer to life is not 42, It is 37. The flawed 42 was derived from a mistake in calculating the quantum flux of a tenth dimensional hyperspacial wormhole. For proof of my math, please follow me in a nice chaotic line to the fifth dimension for a practical dissemination of the results.

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#48 Posted : 5/8/2012 1:48:12 AM

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I pulled out my jars this morning and blow dried them out. Some of them started melting again (I don't know why), so I scraped up what I could and loaded it into a make-shift vaporizer that I made a few days ago. I didn't bother to measure out the dose, but I believe it was something like 20-30mg. The come up was very body heavy, and then the geometric shapes took place of everything I was seeing. This lasted about 5 minutes and was very pretty! However, the come down was soooo heavy on my body. I felt like an elephant was sitting on my chest and stomach. Does anyone know why this could be?

First extraction out of the way, though! I learned a lot, and it was definitely a journey in itself! I look forward to learning more in the future as I get better and better at this. Thank you everyone for the help!
 
Compound37
#49 Posted : 5/8/2012 2:54:00 AM

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hmmm, even after that re-x. Perplexing.

Sounds like you got a good experience anyhow. Smile Geometric fractals are fairly common. In regards to the body load, usually my onset into hyperspace has a pretty heavy body buzz type feeling, coming down I'm usually back to normal pressure. However that isn't to say that sometimes the pressure doesn't last or come on at different times, or that tactile sensations can't do just about anything during almost anytime of your experience.

It does something almost every time. In relationship to sight, sounds, feelings, tactile sensations, crossing over of different senses. Loads of stuff.
"Reality is an illusion, albeit a very persistant one"-Albert Einstein

The answer to life is not 42, It is 37. The flawed 42 was derived from a mistake in calculating the quantum flux of a tenth dimensional hyperspacial wormhole. For proof of my math, please follow me in a nice chaotic line to the fifth dimension for a practical dissemination of the results.

[size=4]Compound37 is a fictionalized character, any and all posts are based solely on speculation.
 
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