Are there any research chemicals out there that are similar to DMT in appearance and/or effects?

The reason I ask is because my friend who has gotten plenty of mislabeled in the past. They once got what they thought was MDMA and ended up being MXE. (It caused for some bad experiences in a lot of people.) They where later told it was MXE. I tried some, and I'm quite experienced with MXE, and that's definitely what it was from what I can tel. They swear up and down it was PCP. MODERATOR: PRICE REMOVED, NO MENTIONING OF PRICES!. PCP is extremely rare where we are at, I'm 99.99 percent sure it was not.

They have also gotten some that they don't even know the names of.

Well they talk about how they've been getting it and I received some from them for my birthday. They are younger than me, be very well intentioned young adults. They just happen to be very misinformed on their facts - quite often.

I have seen a lot of DMT around my area before. I've only experienced it once and it was rather mild experience because I only took one hit. (I guess?) All of the DMT I've seen has been rather large chunks of a very crystalline structure. And varying degrees of a yellow-ish tint, and have quite a foul smell. But plenty of people 'blast off' and they where always well received.

This is unlike any DMT I've seen, although from what I've researched it definitely could be DMT. It's a white, crystaly powder. It looks like it could be anything. But they all describe 'blasting off,' and seem to have no doubt it's DMT. Keep in mind, they swear up and down that the MXE they did was PCP.

So are there any research chemicals (most likely legal) that could be passed off as DMT to people who aren't very experienced. I know they have all tried the usual yellow that comes around, but I also know that they are rather naive and could easily think it's still DMT even though it's something else.

So is there any likelihood that there is another research chemical that could be confused with DMT to the rather inexperienced? I would feel much better if I had more confidence that I had DMT. I am currently about 73-85% sure. (hah, pretty specific numbers there with the 73)

You can get 5-meo-dmt from a number of rc suppliers...so it may very well have been dmt.

I would say it's more likely to be DMT than 5-MeO, simply because here in America it is a schedule 1 drug along with DMT. If they are both illegal I don't see anyone passing them 5-meo-dmt as actual DMT.(I'm sure it's still available online.)

I'm wiling to try either, I would just like to know which!

I can study the effects and properties all I want. Is there anything legal that it could be passed off as? I would like to know the likelihood of this actually happening.

no.

DPT is the only thing remotely similar in the visual department, but has a different vibe.



anyone who's done both knows the difference. for starters, PCP is 10X more potent, so the dosage would be 1/10th... 200 mg of PCP would kill you.
also, PCP is wayy more powerful in its effects. obviously, potency and power are two different things, and PCP trumps MXE in both aspects.

I thought that wasn't possible anymore since it was moved to schedule I ?

i have some 5MEO hcl and its a grey powder, it doesnt look like DMT

There's only one route to travel if you want to be sure, go about extracting your own small qnts., for your own private use. I could aquaint trying to meet DMT via a circle RC fans as trying to find a girlfriend at the local brothel.

DPT is also the one trytamine that could more compare to n,n-DMT in terms of effects and feel.

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* sorry mod I was just trying to illustrate anyone dabbling in RC's should have a trusted source. I should have just said that.

Its impossible to judge RC's by look/ color alone. I've got 9 different RC's in my stash box and would never attempt to identify them just by looking, that's soooooo dangerous. You could say jwh081 and am2201 look similar because they aren't a flat white powder/salt... They're sparkling/glittery in the light and form clumps like they're wet even though its dry.

Tell your buddies to be really careful. I've been doing RC's long before the headshop and gas station craze. I've got documents of my own experience and friends I've observed and I've seen people puke their guts out, trip the freak out, and feel like they've lost all control.

RC's are a different beast than anything else. People use cannabinoids like weed, thinking it'll be the same... They aren't. If you want a weed high, smoke some weed.

Whatever RC you're doing, start small because you really don't know what you're in for or what you've been given, I don't care what the COA says, it doesn't mean thats truly what it is.

If you have any questions about RC's pm me. I may be new to the nexus but me and RC's go waaaaaaaaay back.

If you want I could dig up a picture, but dmt CAN be in a white powdery crystalline form. Almost all of the dmt I've seen has been snow-white with no yellow tinge.

any identification/characterization tests on it?

I've analyzed slightly yellow DMT, that was >98%, determined by melting point, identified by LC-MS. I've observed that like tryptamine free base, DMT will turn yellowish with exposure to air; i.e., white crystals don't tend to stay white.

I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure most a/b extractions produce the whiter dmt while the stb's produce a more off white/ yellow tinted product. Oxidation is most definitely a factor as is temperature and light.