Hi,

I spent the time and effort and have extracted some pure white crystals, just over 1g, and I'm ready to go back to dmt hyperspace after an 8 year break. Now I'm reading about changa, and some people are saying that the experience is just as "deep" or intense as with raw dmt, but it's an easier ride in and out, and it lasts longer. Is this the consensus around here?

My question is, do you changa smokers still consume raw spice? Is there anything about raw spice that you prefer to changa? Or is it 'once you try changa, you don't go back'?

I'm about to go buy a GVG, and I'm concerned that if I try changa later and prefer it, and don't ever want to consume pure dmt again, then I'll have 'wasted' $200 on the GVG since I can smoke changa out of a regular pipe. Money is a slight concern these days.

After 8 years, I'm itching to go, but I guess I could wait a few more weeks to order some b.cappi leaves and make some changa.

Thanks for tips or general comments,

Hello friend=)
1. Get the GVG. Its great for changa too!
2. Yes, changa is generally a smoother transition.
3. Adding MAO will make your journey last longer, and you can slowly vape until you reach the desired destination.
4. I love changa, and I love raw spice. I mostly use changa, and switch it up to raw spice when I get brave enough, as for me, raw spice is way more intense.
I have yet to have a breakthrough with changa, but I can see it happening.
Good luck and welcome back=)
Much Respect.

That's interesting, would you say that it takes more spice - when consumed as changa - than raw spice to breakthrough?

Thanks very much for the reply, peace,

Has the price of the GVG risen to $200?

IMO, both changa and freebase both have their place and mixing the 2 in a session is very nice indeed by slowing down the freebases' effects a little and retaining a slightly clearer headspace due to the lingering RIMA effects from the changa..I retain a fondness for both and the GVG is ideal for freebase (and I guess changa too, but I prefer a small glass bubbler for this).Be advised that if you smoke enough changa in a single inhalation, even via the bubbler, then it can be no less intense than freebase.

I mostly smoke changa 'Dream time' and sometimes crystal which is another level, Infinite.

Changa i say is like looking at the DMT.
Crystal i say is like feeling it.

I have only broken through on crystal, but rarely do i actually smoke to breakthrough.

And yeah some Peganum harmala, Syrian Rue seeds in the herbal mix will help make the Smoke Smoother also mint leaves are a great admixture, the Rue seeds also help disconnect and create space and increase peak time in my own experiments, agreed by friends who try.

I was told by an Ayahuasquero that when i start my ventures i should try both main ingredients separately first the vine and then the leaves.
He even recommended drinking a brew of Syrian rue by itself to try.