I was not raised in any religion or ever told that a god exists. I paid really no attention at all to religion until a few years ago at which point I done some reading about the different religions and then done some reading about people who actively opposed religions (probably don't even need to name the books, lol, they are pretty well known), then after that I read the Quran. I won't go into to much depth about my opinions since I have long since bored myself with the topic, I'll simply state that after much reading and talking I am still non-religious and on top of that I view some religions, and even just the principle of religious "faith", to be a danger humanity could do without... although there are plenty of other dangers humanity could do without as well (atom bombs for example) and I don't necessarily think religion is the biggest problem we face.

The "DMT" entities are the ones who suggested to me that I study Hebrew and Kabbalah..
And it has been so rewarding for me.. Before that I read Carlos Casteneda Aldous Huxley and every other thing I could on Pssychedelics but nothing helped me with a DMT experience until I started learning Kabalah...(not madonna fake Cabalah) Kabbalah(lit. to recieve light) has related to my DMT experiences more than anything else....

It is my belief the bible is written in a code that cannot be deciphered without knowledge of Kabbalah

It appears as though more and more people are willing to tell their experiences, I really appreciate everyone sharing. Eliyahu: I respect your opinion to disagree with Issac's quote.



I feel like I could agree with this, but I haven't experience DMT. Does anyone else agree?

I agree insomuch as this has definitely been my own experience thus far.

People need to be very careful with organized religion. Personally i think it needs to be avoided all together.

I used to belive that as well..now I tend to think the bible was just written by jewish zealotes..the story of the zealots is interesting as they are historys first recorded terrorists..

Anyway, I am not convinced that christianity was ever anything pure or honerable..something I think maybe there was something pure to it, other times I think alot of people iealize and romanticise all this crap about christ and how christianity was a the start..

then I think of the story of the zealots and wonder if that is where it all comes from..

Religion is a dead end game for people who dont want to think and would rather have someone else tell them how it is..but that is just my opinion.

Spiritual people just have no need for religion.

The essence of the teachings that these ascended beings like Jesus and Buddha gave us is all the same and when you boil it down the message is pretty clear, we are all one and to treat others as you would treat yourself.

to many people the fact that a ++++ psychedelic experience on the shulgin scale yields the same core revelation would be a coincidence, to me it is not.

I think the best we can do is to honor our own intuition on this.

I don't really think that smoking DMT serves to magnify any religious belief a person currently has...that would make it an ego enforcing drug like meth or coke in my opinion.

I believe DMT can however magnify the truth.

to respond to this comment:



Firstly--
I am not affiliated with any mainstream religion here.

Secondly-
unless you can read Hebrew fluently according to Kabbalistic tradition I'm afraid the Bible your familiar with is nothing more than a gross misinterpretation of the original Torah. A bunch of nonsensical stories...

Generally speaking when people are criticizing certain aspects of certain religions they are referring to how that religion is being practiced. The Abrahamic faiths are practiced by people who read the books and follow the words written in them. Christianity as it is practiced in the western world is very rarely read/understood in it's original Hebrew/Greek forms, it is read/understood through it's English (and various other) translations and is practiced based on these translations. Yes they are largely a bunch of nonsensical stories... are you saying that the Hebrew version is actually NOT a bunch of nonsensical, contradictory and (lets be honest) very often highly immoral stories? Or are you just taking a similar route as the old "you're taking that out of context" argument... I have yet to see anyone actually explain what context these things should be taken in.

I don't doubt that there are probably mistranslations, but to suggest that it is so badly translated that NONE of the immorality mandated in the English translations is an accurate representation of what is described in the original Hebrew books... come on

EDIT: And incidentally, I realized this after I posted and may be off the mark, but you seem to be associating yourself with Christianity and talking about only being able to properly understand it through understanding Hebrew. The New Testament was not written in Hebrew, it was written in Greek... can you understand Greek? If not how can you claim anything about Christianity (according to your own assertions about these books only being able to be fully understood if you understand the original language)?

Ive read a few of your other posts on physics related matters, and you seem quite knowledgeable. May I ask what your background in physics is? Im studying physics as well, but still an undergrad so my knowledge of the subject is still pretty limited and basic. That being said, I feel differently than you in regards to the more I learn about it. There are some things that I learn and question how they could have happened randomly. A general example would be electrons and protons. Despite the proton being almost 2000 times more massive than the electron, they have EXACTLY (as far as we know) the same charge. How did that happen randomly? If they had even the slightest difference in charge, our world would not exist the way it does today.

Of course, we could say that if they had a different charge maybe we would exist in different world and would be asking how it was they happened to have whatever particular charge ratio that they had, and that if it hadnt worked out that way the world wouldnt exist. Its also possible that there have been an infinite number of universes completely unsuitable for life, and we just happen to exist in the one that randomly is suitable for life.


To the main topic of the thread, dmt hasnt really changed my religions beliefs much, but it has opened me up to the idea and (in my opinion very good)possibility that our universe is some sort of simulation or creation by another much more advanced society. I also think its possible that that society is a simulation as well, and so on and so on, and that we are an unimaginably large number of simulations away from the original prime reality. I havent quite figured out how these possibilities fit in with my religious beliefs.


Edit: I guess I didnt read the original post and questions very well. I was raised catholic until I was about 10 when my parents got divorced and we stopped going to church. I dont know at what age I became an atheist, but cant ever really remember having much faith or belief what I was told in church. I took mushrooms for the first time at age 19, and had a very light religious experience, in that I could feel something much deeper than myself and something spiritual. I had been a pretty convinced atheist up until that, but that opened me up to the idea that I didnt know everything and maybe there was something more.

Nothing much more came of it until I was 22 or so, when I picked up a book on quantum mechanics called "In Search of Schrodingers Cat." The author bashes most people trying to connect new age or eastern religions to quantum mechanics, but does recommend one book, "The Tao of Physics." I enjoyed Schrodingers cat, so decided to check out the Tao of Physics. I didnt know much about Buddhism until then, but after reading that book something clicked and I knew I had to know more, which led me to going back to school for a second degree, this one in physics, and to studying Buddhism, which is more or less the basis for my current religious beliefs.

I understand that some of you are trying to show your points to each other and how one could be more right than the other, but if you're gonna get really involved, make it a private conversation between the people involved and not here, some of you are starting to stray away from what I was originally asking about to a debate over opinions

"Our own insecurities allow religion to flourish."

My apologies but I do have a tendency to present my beliefs as fact, I understand this isn't exactly "Kosher" of me so I will try to avoid doing so in the future..
and I will try to stay on topic although I'm a long winded rambler from way back so it's tricky for me.

To me the bible is not a history book, in my opinion it does involve people who have actually existed, but not necessarily events that have occurred. The "stories" in the bible when properly understood are actually perfect metaphors for dealing with the spirit world and DMT experience in particular .
It becomes non-sense when people try to take things extra literally and from a historical viewpoint. For me Israel is a state of mind not a country or a piece of land.

I view the bible as a the perfect metaphorical guidebook not only for the spirit world itself but it is also an ideal parable that represents the struggles and glories associated with the evolution of personal human spiritual development.
A good example is Exodus, where the Pharaoh represents the Ego. And the exile of the Jews represent what happens when the true self escapes the clutches of ego maniacal behavior.

I was raised by a woman who told me that "God and the Devil do not exist, there is only power".

As I became a teenager myself and my friends began to experiment with LSD and during one of those trips I was met by an entity that had power and an attitude like you might imagine God or an archangel having. My friends also experienced this entity. Also I have witnessed this entity simultaneously with others while on LSD and DMT.
As our relationship developed over the course of years I was eventually led to DMT and Ayahuasca by this "Archangel"

In other trips I have met with what could be most accurately described as being demons. (no description necessary) I have also seen and been a part of what I could only describe as possession and exorcism

So To me these things are not simply beliefs but real life experiences. For example I don't just have "faith" that the Rabbi, Yeshua exists, to me it's a simple fact of life because I have met him..I have communicated with him quite clearly during LSD, DMT, Mushroom and Ayahuasca experiences. I know he exists like I know I exist, to me it's not a matter of blind faith I actually know the man...And this does NOT make me special it makes me aware..
Anyone could talk to Yeshua if they really wanted to. Most people just don't care to and that's a fact.

I focus on the Hebrew aspect because my Spirit friend Yeshua was a Hebrew Rabbi who used trans-dermal cannabis oil to facilitate mystical experiences. From my knowledge...Yeshua practiced a very unpopular form of Hebrew/paganistic shamanism in the wilderness that involved pouring marijuana oil over peoples heads.(Annointing)

Also, Yeshua did not teach in Greek, Hebrew and Greek are in no way compatible. Greek is an abstract language whereas Hebrew is a bio-agro-cultaral-language meaning every aspect of the language right down to the alphabet can be correlated to either a biological or cultural metaphor of some type. For example, saying "my nostrils are flared" in Hebrew is the same as saying "I'm angry" in English or Greek.
Yeshua's teaching were translated into Greek by his followers years after his earthly demise. So I feel like learning Hebrew and genuine Kabbalah brings me close to understanding the mind of the messiah and the DMT experience as well.

Thanks for reading

In the interest of not derailing this thread any further I'm not gonna start pulling apart your post. I have no issue with your personal experiences, how you choose to interpret them and the beliefs you hold as a result of them. But things like this:



...annoy me no end. I respectfully disagree. It seems like you are making a statement of fact about something you can't know is fact. I am willing to freely admit you could be right, are you willing to admit you could be wrong?

One starts to see how religion and beliefs can become divisive even among freer thinkers. Just an observation, not a call-out on anyone.

I find myself becoming more passionate as I read about things I don't necessarily agree with as well. Sharing one's religion/spirituality with others can be a very slippery slope.

I really like this phrase:

"everyone is entitled to their opinion, their even entitled to their opinion on progress, but you are not entitled to your own facts"


Kind regards,

The Traveler

I must say I've never watched a TED video that I didn't enjoy. TED is great

Seconded. TED talks are very interesting. I think I've seen a couple that bored me slightly, but I've watched so many that there was bound to be one or two that didn't really interest me.

Let me get this straight....your annoyed because I'm saying that I spoke to the Messiah while under the influence of psychedelics or are you annoyed because I'm saying that this is an experience any one could have if they so wanted? I could very easily say the same thing about Satan, would that be just as bothersome?

I fail to understand how this could be an annoyance. The topic of this discussion is "Religiousness and it's relevance to Spice" and since a huge part of modern religion is Christianity, I see nothing but relevance to the topic here with what I am saying

I am not trying to convert anyone, I am only attempting to share my own psychedelic experience that happened to involve communicating with the disembodied spirit of Yeshua. I am also putting forth the Idea that Yeshua is not the blue eyed republican Jesus we have been told he is, but is a helpful entity to seek for protection while on DMT or other substances

Yeshua is not the only disembodied spirit I communicate with...Since I am a musician I also communicate with: Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Bob Marley, Jerry Garcia, Bradley Nowell and other "dead" artists, philosiphers and patriarchs while on DMT....How annoying is that?

Obviously I'm not your average Christian here so It should be somewhat obvious that I'm not trying to convert or preach to anyone in this forum.. I am just sharing my experiences and you can take what you will from it. I'm not telling anyone that they are going to hell or doomed for not seeking Yeshua.. I do infact contend that there are other ways to reach enlightenment besides through Yeshua, that is just the way that works for me best personally.

I will say in conclusion that I absolutely could be wrong and totally out of my Zealot mind....But how would I truly know that??? To you my reality may be subjective but to me reality seems quite real..

Just because I state something from my experiences as a fact does not mean anyone has to take it seriously.
I mean why would you lend so much importance to the rantings of a possibly over LSD'd crazy person?