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#1 Posted : 4/16/2012 7:28:01 PM

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A-low-ha all! [MODERATOR: NO BUYING/SELLING AND/OR SOURCES TALK] Long story INC....

SWIM friends ingested one hit of the blotter while I ingested two. Right off the bat I knew it wasn't LSD because it had a very strong bitter metallic chemical taste. Putting that in the back of my mind I held the blotters under my tongue and under front lip. The blotters were single layer very tiny one side had a design of a colorful bear. Suppose to been a 100ug blotter of LSD.

Ive read that many RC's and benzos are very strong bitter taste so I was slightly worried I would be in trouble. Roughly instantly was hit with LSD like affects very giddy, laughing at anything, perception changed to a more foggy like. Also smoked a dab of hash oil and one boil during the ingestion which I felt greatly boosted by the blotter. I did not smoke anymore MJ that night due to SWIM friend's having anxiety attacks when did. So it greatly boosted MJ's affects.

After about an hour or two deiced to go on a walk which the affects were still very happy giddy no negative feelings or body load. After walk which was about half an hour felt the blotter hit like a ton of bricks right in my stomach. I have never really felt such a strong body load very very very unpleasant which turned my happy bright experience into a dark uncomfortable not knowing if I was in the ride of my life since I was constantly worrying I overdosed and would slowly be stuck in this unbearable world. Everyone including I was turned from a giddy happy person into a quiet hoping to survive person.

I lost track of time after things became 'rough'. It was nothing like LSD I have ever had stomach felt as if being gutted out, almost little to no OEV's with only slight wavering in the peripherals only would have slight shakiness if I focused on one object. Light was the main thing I could tell was different every time I looked at different lighting everything would shift colors to the light color. Mainly I thought I had overdosed on a very potent RC since everyone else in group were having minor anxiety attacks which lead them to believe they have ingested DOB or 25i-nbome or something far more potent. Everyone agreed they felt the same and only way to describe the body load was like having someone had a deathgrip on your chest (Heart,Lungs,Squeezing).

After about seven hours I felt the blotter let up I felt the death grip on my chest leave. Still had very strange perception no OEV very minor CEV. Overall I thought I was going to die and same did with SWIM's friends. Been about 4 days since the experience and still have the affects lingering in us. Light perception still is greatly affected, MJ causes a flare in side affects feel the uncomfortableness still there.

Ive been trying to discover what it could be from the experience but had no luck couple of SWIM friend's suggested it may have been 25nbome because they had a similar experience but I believe it must be part of the 2Cx family or very little DOx family or mixed with a benzo's. Sorry for the wall of text but appreciate any information or advice to help thank you.
 

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#2 Posted : 4/16/2012 7:39:53 PM

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I don't know about you, skunk, but everytime I got blotters, I would briefly shine a blacklight on them. lsd gives off an unmistakable, characteristic light blue color. Other chems give off different colors; it's related to molecular structure/electron orientation(pi-bond conjugation).
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#3 Posted : 4/16/2012 7:40:15 PM

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Im glad you are alright now, be safe please! Get ehrlich or marquis or similar reagent, check what color they turn with LSD, all the info in the testing subforum in my signature. Also checking UV shine.

No need to mention about acquisition of that LSD, we dont want source talk here.

It could be LSD, or a bunch of other research chemicals or analogues, hard to say. The fact that it only lasted under 10 hours, does not seem to be some DOx.

LSD is naturally vasoconstrictive, which could account for some of the side effects. Maybe a different ratio of LSD isomers could increase this.

Again, only way to know is to send it to a testing lab or at the very least use some reagent which you can acquire off the net, check the testing subforum, and double checking UV shine.
 
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#4 Posted : 4/16/2012 8:08:40 PM

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Well I have one more tab left from the batch that all of us took so I do plan on doing some testing I haven't yet acquired a testing kit but I really should I want to prevent another one of these.

So basically it could be anything except for DOx and LSD atleast right? I will grab a UV light and do the shine test on the strip and provide an update.

This is the first time I have ever received adulterated blotters reason why I went so head strong into the situation only to find out I may have gone insane. Thanks for the support Endlessness and Benzyme.

I have done LSD less then ten times so Im not that experienced but Ive never experienced such an uncomfortable experience with any other time. Has anyone else felt such unpleasant time with an actual LSD blotter before?
 
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#5 Posted : 4/16/2012 8:19:21 PM

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Can we have a picture of the blotter ?
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#6 Posted : 4/16/2012 8:24:25 PM

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I will have a picture soon Im currently working at not my residence.
 
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#7 Posted : 4/17/2012 7:33:54 AM

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It´s hard to make a guess but i just wan´t to add that e and everyone i know who tested 25i got pretty gassy and had some stomach discomforts from it,

Also none of us really got to much visuals from bucal dosing, although the effects were somewhat similar to acid.
 
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#8 Posted : 4/17/2012 2:57:57 PM

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5-meo-dipt ~5mg
5-meo-amt ~3-4mg


are two chemicals I thought about when you said the GI discomfort.

the slight lack of visuals at the 1-2 hit level with the discomfort reminds me of them over do-x's. I have tried DOI DOB DOC DOM and they all last at least 16hrs.


As for the cannabis get an Indica dominate strain and the panic attack will not happen. Sativas are like coffee for me, a very stimulating high.
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I for some reason doubt that it was 25i-NBOMe... I've only taken it twice (first time one hit, second two, ~500 mics a hit) and have been around people on 1-2 hits, no one including myself ever reported too much bodyload. The NBOMe's usually tend to have less bodyload than their 2c counterparts, from my research. Also 25i-NBOMe is quite visual above ~500 mics. With 25i it must be held sublingually or buccal for at least 20 minutes. Did you hold it that long?

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I'm honestly so sick of this crap,

when you taste something bitter, just spit it right out.
 
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#11 Posted : 4/19/2012 7:35:16 PM

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Well unfortunately I still haven't been able to do any tests on the last tab due to other assistants! The blotter was of a cat originally but I doubt that helps much also I did hold the tabs under my front lip until they dissolved which would be at least twenty minutes.

I still have slight side affects lingering which are brought out heavily when ingesting cannabis.
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I'm honestly so sick of this crap,

when you taste something bitter, just spit it right out.


Well I probably would have if I would have known about such a rule plus I figured it would have been too late either way.
 
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#12 Posted : 4/19/2012 8:44:58 PM

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I read on another forum that 5 meo amt is being put onto thick blotters, and produces lsd like effects.
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Sky Motion wrote:
I'm honestly so sick of this crap,

when you taste something bitter, just spit it right out.


I disagree.. Ive had acid (shown by mass spectrometry) that had some bitter taste, and others that just had the 'metallic-electric' feeling.. While some RCs may be bitter, and while some blotters that have RCs may be bitter, this does NOT mean that every bitter blotter is not LSD.. Im not sure what the bitterness is in those cases, maybe it has something to do with the paper/ink.

Also, if its in your mouth, most likely a significant part was already absorbed. Test with marquis/ehrlich and the UV shine BEFORE ingesting, dont start ingesting and then spit out because of the taste.
 
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#14 Posted : 4/19/2012 9:27:40 PM

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I'm honestly so sick of this crap,

when you taste something bitter, just spit it right out.


I disagree.. Ive had acid (shown by mass spectrometry) that had some bitter taste, and others that just had the 'metallic-electric' feeling.. While some RCs may be bitter, and while some blotters that have RCs may be bitter, this does NOT mean that every bitter blotter is not LSD.. Im not sure what the bitterness is in those cases, maybe it has something to do with the paper/ink.

Also, if its in your mouth, most likely a significant part was already absorbed. Test with marquis/ehrlich and the UV shine BEFORE ingesting, dont start ingesting and then spit out because of the taste.


Everything I've ever tested with Marquis has had literally zero taste, unless you're putting 500+ mics on a blotter I doubt it will be a large enough dose to get the taste of what LSD is like.

Of course, later in the trip I can really sense what the taste should be like, I get the "metallic-electric" feeling in my mouth, forehead, pretty much my whole face.

Endlessness, as long as your testing it's all good really, but if you don't (like OP) and putting the blotter on your tongue makes your whole face cringe due to extreme chemical taste and bitterness, I'd rather not take my chances on going for 30+ hours, which I have seen happen to friends that don't test.
 
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Sky Motion wrote:

Everything I've ever tested with Marquis has had literally zero taste, unless you're putting 500+ mics on a blotter I doubt it will be a large enough dose to get the taste of what LSD is like.


Taste should not increase with the amount of LSD, since LSD is tasteless. I've seen explanations that it's the medium/print that's responsible for the biterness but I haven't ate any blotter art so I can't compare.
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Shaolin wrote:
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Everything I've ever tested with Marquis has had literally zero taste, unless you're putting 500+ mics on a blotter I doubt it will be a large enough dose to get the taste of what LSD is like.


Taste should not increase with the amount of LSD, since LSD is tasteless. I've seen explanations that it's the medium/print that's responsible for the biterness but I haven't ate any blotter art so I can't compare.


Everything has taste..

It's the incredibly small dosage that doesn't allow our taste buds to pick up on it.
 
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#17 Posted : 4/28/2012 6:49:32 PM

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Upon further examination of blotter paper it was discovered that it is an adhesive. One side basically peeled right off. Also got in contact with vendor whom said it was pure which I high disagree with. Further testing will proceed!

Here is the tab!
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If I remember correctly this blotter contained LSD but also some other "stuff", possibly degradation products or byproducts of the synthesis. Advertised at 80ug.
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