Just a curiosity as I'm sure opinions will vary.

I'm planning on doing a nice extraction myself but am also procuring some 5-meo as well so I'm able to compare.

I think it's useless to compare the two as they are so different(or so I've read, haven't tried "5-meo".)

I think the Pharma is more of a one trick pony: super hard and super fast with little or no time to process information and the N,N-in the more "natural" state is more forgiving and prone to actually let you reflect on what's just happened.

Just wondering from someone who's done both, since I've never tried the Pharma before and am a little apprehensive about it but intrigued at the same time...

pharma is oral DMT+harmalas in pure form. I dunno what that has to do with DMT compared with 5meoDMT..

Anyway, I dont think you can compare them anyway so much in this way. 5meoDMT sounds like it is like a different thing..I would just have both of them rather than one or the other.

I have read on a few occasions, that 5-meo is more of the fast paced rush bungee jump, more scary, stronger visuals less spirit journey feeling. I seriously have no idea tho.

This is true, pardon...I don't want people to be confused.

I often refer to 5-meo as Pharma because of its lab synthesis. N,N I consider "DMT" because its extracted directly, no synthesis. Its like pot being cannabis and jwh's being cannabinoids...I would call a synthetic THC "Pharma thc"

Feel me?

EzekielCain,

5-meo-dmt occurs naturally in many plants and animals, it's availability in synthetic form is due to the fact that it's hard to extract.

On this forum "Pharma" is generally used as an abbreviation of Pharmahuasca, which is basically Ayahuasca in pills (pure DMT + pure Harmala).

I don't think that these two should be compared. But...

I've only tried 5-meo twice...but holy crap! It is no walk in the park I'll tell you that much. My first experience was mind blowing, I took wayyy too big of a dose (I was inexperienced at the time and a friend gave me about 30mg of what he and I thought was nn-dmt which I had only tried once prior) i was sure that I had died right there on my buddy's bed, but for some strange reason I was ok with it. I had to just surrender to whatever was happening to me. There was a tremendous body load that was bordering on unbearable...but there was nothing I could do except just go with it. I was in a very dark infinite place, there were some swirling patterns ut nothing compared to nn-dmt, there was no other energy/entity there except my own. When I finally came back I was literally speechless. My hands and arms were tingly/numb for about 25-30mins after.

The second time I smoked a little less but it was still very intense, I saw myself laying there on the couch from across the room...this was weird.
The same day a friend tried some right after me and puked all over the couch/floor...it was nasty. It makes a lot of people nauseous from what I read, although it really didn't bother my stomach.

I don't know if I will ever try it again...maybe. For me nn-dmt is much more enjoyable.

Be safe! Know what you are taking!