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MMPA
#1 Posted : 4/18/2012 7:57:53 AM

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Summary aka TL;DR: What is a good Disney park to choose for a 4-Aco-DET experience + any general advice?

EDIT: After some long thinking, I decided that I am not going to give this friend any 4-Aco until I see that he fully understands what he is entering and is mentally prepared and ready for the experience, he only seems to think it will be a fun visual trip and I don't want to facilitate the abuse of powerful and meaningful chemicals.

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Even though this may seem like a silly question, it's not! Environment is imperative in an experience! Also, I am not bragging here, I'm just elaborate.

So, I am going to be going to Disney World soon. It may seem silly to others but if you really think about it, doesn't that sound like an opportunity all of us dream about? Go on a worry-free and expense paid trip to a place full of everything imaginable when you were young and experience nostalgia from childhood memories. So I'm asking you what would be the best idea because I think your opinion counts too + you can help my indecisive self. I want to craft good memories.

To continue, I want to ensure that:
-The environment I choose will synergize well with my trip
-I can maximize my experience

My questions are:
---------------------------------- Which Disney park should I choose? --------------------------
Magic Kingdom: The main place where literally every kind of world merges into one area (there is a pirate area that merges into a western city, into a space world) aka the place that started it all. Should the magic happen here?
Epcot: Culturally-diverse world park which gives a taste of every part of the world. Maybe I could have a universality/biocentric realization here that I am but part of a whole and feel connected to the world?
Typhoon Lagoon: A lagoon/Caribbean/exotic island styled water park, very sunny and inviting theme. This one would be the most blissful fun although there is some fish aspect to it like a shark pool and I have fear of fish (yes it's a real fear called ichthyophobia). Should I waste away a day of pure fun here and possibly overcome my fear of fish?
Blizzard Beach: Theme: A ginormous blizzard has overcome a water park and turned into a water winter wonderland. Plummeting down a 130ft drop at a 85 degree angle on a giant waterslide?
I will probably only go to one park but I might get lucky and go to two. I have been to all before except Typhoon Lagoon (for obvious reasons).

Also, as far as the experience, I have never taken 4-Aco-DET and am planning to test for sensitivity via microdosing beforehand. I am expecting this to be like psilocybin but I'm not sure how much is the optimum amount, since for shrooms, different dosages provide different experiences (low = introspective + no visuals, med/high = mindfuck + visuals).
What would you suggest a good dosage to take?

Also,
1. I am going with a very close friend who has never tried a full-on psychedelic at all and this might be his first experience; he has only ever done bud, alcohol, and dirty MDMA and he is not on the nexian level of psychedelic education so I am hesitant to bring him into an experience without him knowing exactly what he will be expecting but I am confident I can be a viable non-sober sitter with him (even though that contradicts what a sitter does).
2. Is 4-Aco-DET something you can handle within a park or would the trip be too intense to want to wait in lines or be in a park?

Thank you if you help out. I will be sure to return your help with a nice story afterwards =]
 

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#2 Posted : 4/18/2012 3:48:15 PM

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Epcot, enough said. It will make you see the wonder of how far we have come, but how little we know at the same time. PLUS, over 12 different countries and foods? Common'..

I live in Florida and I have been to all parks, Epcot is the best, followed by Magic Kingdom, but Epcot is geared more towards adults..

Why not just a light dose of L to get you in the headspace?
 
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#3 Posted : 4/18/2012 7:26:10 PM
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Are drugs really necessary at amusement park?
 
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#4 Posted : 4/18/2012 7:30:49 PM
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tele wrote:
Are drugs really necessary at amusement park?

It's difficult to truly understand the mind of Walt without some kind of psychedelic. No, it's not necessary -- but it's a privilege and a gift being able to trip at the Happiest Place on Earth. From personal experience, LSD and/or mescaline seem to synergize well with the park. Never tried 4-Aco-DET...
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#5 Posted : 4/18/2012 11:51:05 PM

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Sky Motion wrote:
Why not just a light dose of L to get you in the headspace?

Accessibility = non-existent

tele wrote:
Are drugs really necessary at amusement park?

No, but if the rare opportunity arises, why not take it? Plus, I've never had a public experience with psychs + I've been to them already so it wouldn't be anything new if I went sober, and...

a1pha wrote:
but it's a privilege and a gift being able to trip at the Happiest Place on Earth.


This.

I have the options of insufflation, oral, and vaping. Concerning vaping, could I do so by using a bowl, placing the powder inside the (completely clean) bowl and then placing a bowl screen in the bowl for heat dispersal with a typical lighter?
 
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#6 Posted : 4/19/2012 12:16:31 AM
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MMPA wrote:
Plus, I've never had a public experience with psychs + I've been to them already so it wouldn't be anything new if I went sober, and...

A bit of advice from someone who's done this (psychs & Disney) for many years: make sure you get in a proper headspace before entering the park. Standing in line - crowds - kids - Disney cast members. If You begin to feel a bad trip taking hold then go find a quiet spot and rest. You absolutely do not want to look messed up or on drugs. You are sharing this experience with children and it is not proper (imo) to ruin it for them.

Just something to chew on.


Edit: this just brought back memories of these two candy ravers giving light shows on Main Street last year rolling their brains out - NOT appropriate imo.
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#7 Posted : 4/19/2012 12:18:22 AM

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a1pha wrote:
MMPA wrote:
Plus, I've never had a public experience with psychs + I've been to them already so it wouldn't be anything new if I went sober, and...

A bit of advice from someone who's done this (psychs & Disney) for many years: make sure you get in a proper headspace before entering the park. Standing in line - crowds - kids - Disney cast members. If You begin to feel a bad trip taking hold then go find a quiet spot and rest. You absolutely do not want to look messed up or on drugs. You are sharing this experience with children and it is not proper (imo) to ruin it for them.

Just something to chew on.


I agree, and go with oral, don't bring a bowl in an vape in there..slightly wreckless IMO.
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#8 Posted : 4/19/2012 12:50:17 AM
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Maybe you could bring a small vial containing your total contemplated dose and take VERY small bumps here and there in the bathroom that way you don't accidently bomb too fat an oral dose that could make you feel uncomfortable.. but then again I usually would go for an oral dose in a situation like this but it's just an idea. I've done both at places like dave and busters, fairs, and such with 4-ho-met, 4-aco-dmt, mxe, and 2c-e and I found that I prefered oral dosing just because I hate re dosing by insuffilation (drip, inconvenience, ect) and I like the longer come-up to give me a chance to get a feel for things. But anyway, best of luck man and remember to have fun!
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#9 Posted : 4/19/2012 1:33:34 AM

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Sky Motion wrote:
I agree, and go with oral, don't bring a bowl in an vape in there..slightly wreckless IMO. Start low and work your way up.


Probably should have clarified on the vaping part. I definitely would not want to vape in there + the inconvenience of having to redose + unsuitable vape setting so vaping would probably only happen in the microdosing stages to conserve the amount I have. Good advice you've all giving, some things I've heard before but it's good to refresh on knowledge. Thank you all.
 
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#10 Posted : 4/19/2012 2:58:22 AM

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Not sure if they still have the exhibit that used to be called "Mission to Mars" or something like that.

It is the wildest ride...........it simulates g forces or the like. When they first opened it there were enuf people getting too disoriented (sick) that they had to start running 2 versions of the ride. a pansy version and a dimensional traveler version.

Check it out...............it may be under a bit of a different name............. but definitely in one of the larger corporate type of exhibit buildings at Epcot.
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