girl friend and i are gonna finnaly try caapi only brew (and maybe some smoked spice) for the first time tomorrow. brewd 1 lb 2hrx4 acid free about one month ago and just havent had the right oppertounity. Have been researching it for quite some time now though as im far from new around here. Have not tried any maoi/changa/husca really other that high dose p.incarnata brew and smoked dmt but did not get full maoi effects. plan on drinking the equivlent of 50g each tomorrow evening and see where that goes. Have been on a lite diet today no meat and fruit only tomorrow leading up. any last wise words of advise before we sorta dive into the unknown? extremely excited yet a little intimidated but most deffinetly ready.

I am a daily herb smoker, and most likely be a little stoney going into this. shouldnt be to big of a deal yeah?

Wow. Sounds great dude!
I personally have not tried it.
Just make sure you start off light and work your way up. I have heard of people ODing and feeling sick off of that.
If you have done your research, then you know where you are @!
Best of luck on your voyage!!!
Oh and report back and tell us how it went!!

Have a nice session brother

well my caapi brew experince was slim to nothing. I drank about 70grams and gf had about 60 or so. nothing but garglling stomachs for the both of us not sure if it was from the caapi or the little food in our bellys. waited about 1hr 45 min or so smoked some herbs. deffinetly potenated the herb but that was about all the noticable effects that im aware of after that watched the movie the fountain. always a great flick. great sleep with some intersting dreams but nothing to out of the norm. next weekend going for 100gr brew maybe with a hint spice. see where that takes us. if anything its kinda cleared me of the mental block ive had with aya and ready to go deep.

must be a weak caapi/brew or we both have a higher caapi tolerance?
How long after drinking caapi should effects start to be felt?

There is a lot of variables involved so we can't say for sure. But I've had a caapi only brew where I only took the equivalent of 40g and started feeling the effects within 10min and it was very, very, very strong. Like can't move hardly strong with strong web like things with eyes open and random images flashing in the minds eye. Oh and Puking every 1-10 minutes for 4 hours straight! This was from a fresh Cielo vine brewed 3x3hr with Vinegar.

Basically you have to deal with at least all of these:

Strength of given vine (varies greatly)
Brewing Tech
Personal Tolerance

Seems like probably one of the first 2 since both of you felt the exact same thing it seems. Note that 50g is often a smaller side dose despite the intensity of my 40g one. Depending on types of vine people drink 100g or more. Just browse the Aya sub-section to see the variety.

I think the best way to approach it is to get some from a Trust worthy vendor and do a BIG boil of way more than you need so that you have many doses available. Each time you make a new brew there will be some testing the waters as you figure out how strong it is.

yes did 1 lb brew from one of the more US trusted vendor of this site of somew yellow caapi without vinegar or anything of the sort so this could be part of my problem, but i did boil for about 8hrs of time. Should have 320gr worth of brew left give or take.

so jumping from 70gr with little to no effects up to 100 next weekend hopefully wont floor me but then again thats kinda what im going for in a respectful way.

and yes ment for this thread to be in the aya sub section so if any mod feels like moving it that would be great.

My girlfriend and I both require atleast 100grams and up to 200grams if i'm using just caapi to get any worthwhile effect and I have gotten it to succesfully work dozens of times...That is why I usually add some harmaline to the mix about (50mg-75mg) so that way I only require around 50 to 75 grams of caapi for noticable effect...but If you can get it to work...smoking spice on caap can be a super amazing "mini huasca experience" ..although it often lacks the purge or you just get an "almost purge" which can be a bummer for your stomach the next day...

Good Luck!!