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#1 Posted : 4/13/2012 12:02:36 PM
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This probably has been asked here before, but I would like to know why people here use DMT. I would appreciate direct comments without jokes please...
Especially to people who have got their asses kicked even several times by DMT(like me), what's in it that makes you go back?
Do some of you believe there is also a subconscious pull towards the experience?
 

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#2 Posted : 4/13/2012 12:23:37 PM

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I do it to explore. I'm not sure what, but it fascinates me. I'm drawn to experience it like a painting you can't stop staring at. It feels like therapy... again, I'm not sure what kind, but I can say the the introspectivenese it seems to bring in the days after a deep experience is really, I suppose the top reason.
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#3 Posted : 4/13/2012 12:24:45 PM

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Here's a couple of relevant threads, there's some interesting answers there, as well as my own thoughts Smile

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...osts&t=13658&p=2
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=13778
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=26952

Now tell us, why do YOU use DMT ? Smile
 
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#4 Posted : 4/13/2012 12:37:21 PM
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endlessness wrote:

Now tell us, why do YOU use DMT ? Smile


I am explorerWink

The very first time I broke through I have felt it has a big part in my life and "destiny", and I was right, it has changed my life, made me mentally stronger and showed me things I couldn't imagine. Sometimes it also feels like incredibly powerful healing medicine.
Even if I really don't fully understand DMT(I guess no human does), simply witnessing it's effects is one of the greatest things to do.
So I guess I can say I smoke it because I have natural interest in exploring hyperspace, even if it kicks my ass occasionally and can even feel horrible. I guess it's the price to pay for the ticket Smile

BTW, I noticed I had already replied to thread like thisLaughing :

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...&m=290595#post290595

 
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#5 Posted : 4/13/2012 1:10:51 PM

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I do it because i want to partake in events of myth and folklore.
I do it because it allows me to be a bigger part of the epic totality of existence.
I do it because it is making me a better person.
I do it because its so beautiful.
I do it because it makes me cry.
I do it because its horrific.
I do it because it makes me scared.
I do it because its the answer to all my questions.
I do it because it gives me many more questions than it answers.
I do it because Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

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#6 Posted : 4/13/2012 1:21:28 PM

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tele wrote:

Especially to people who have got their asses kicked even several times by DMT(like me), what's in it that makes you go back?


This may ruffle some feathers... If you can't deal with having your ass whooped from time to time, you probably aren't very good at life, IMHO. DMT in many ways is a rehearsal - for life, for death, for stressful situations.

I do it to learn, grow, fortify myself and instill a deep, knowing inner calm that I haven't found anywhere else. Plus it is incredible in many many ways. A divine gift. I feel like a lottery winner to have found this stuff. It changes you subtly into a more laid back, compassionate, conscious being. It shows you that there is more to life. It is a medicine of the highest order.

tele wrote:
Do some of you believe there is also a subconscious pull towards the experience?


Yes. I had a subconscious pull to do it even before I had tried it. Something inside of me was nagged to do it - in my dreams and even in waking life. And then I started reading about it and knew it was something I had to experience. The rest is history...
Lose Control, Free My Soul, Break Me Open, Make Me Whole.
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#7 Posted : 4/13/2012 1:32:50 PM

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Purges wrote:
I feel like a lottery winner to have found this stuff. It changes you subtly into a more laid back, compassionate, conscious being. It shows you that there is more to life. It is a medicine of the highest order.


Exactly my thoughts!
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#8 Posted : 4/13/2012 1:53:00 PM

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This won't be short. Skip past the spaced section if you want to avoid my life story.

There was a time in my life when I was really young that I remember life being perfect. Not that I necessarily understood what life was all about, but then again at that age I didn't even care what it was all about. Simply being me was enough.

Then I grew up, like we all do, and I developed this little thing called an ego. See, after I turned ten I was shipped off to a Christian school which I ended up graduating from years later. My parents were hoping that by putting me in a religious institution that I'd be less inclined to rebel and pursue things like drugs and sex. While this was true to an extent (the guilt trip they laid on me just for being a human being was pretty intense), all it did in the long haul was make me fearful and suspicious of life in general. I developed a 'voice', and I even named this voice Garet after a character from a book I read at the time. This voice, I didn't know until much later, was my developing ego, or alter ego really since our two outlooks were so different. I was convinced I was becoming a schizoid, but with how difficult life was at the time I almost enjoyed it. Sort of like it was my own little secret that I had this other side of me that no one coule ever know about.

And I had dated this girl all through high school and I was convinced she was 'the one'. I loved her exactly as my holy book told me to love her: I forced her to be subservient to me (a wife shall honor her husband and obey him), to be ashamed of herself for trying to be an independent woman (woman and man were not equal as I was taught), and putting her in a box about this big | |.

So she ended up cheating on me. Several times actually, and I could never understand why. I was so entrenched in my own deception of what love was that I was convinced that she was still the evil one and I was the one who was doing good. She ended up leaving me for another man, and after she left I had nothing at all. Nothing except my alter ego.

I spiraled into nihilism after that. We had lived together and after she left I had to move back in with my parents, and the only place I could fit was inside their garage which had no windows and was very much like a dungeon. So I locked myself in there for better part of a year, convinced that if there was no salvation in the light of god I'd cast myself into darkness and explore it until I found an answer to all of what went wrong in my life. I forced myself to bury whatever was left of the person I knew as Tek, and tried so hard to become Garet in my waking life. This essentially meant hatred and revilement for every person I encountered and an absolute disdain for life in general. I used to write long posts on forums and journal entries of how I looked at life, and when I read them now it's hard to even admit that I was the one who actually wrote them.

I had dedicated myself to finding one tiny bit of worth in this thing called life, and this was not an easy task because of the paradox of duality. I wrote a novel on this entire concept (never published it), but my ego could not get around the concept of death. My thinking went something like this: if our lives are finite and we are born only to die, what, if any, worth can my life possibly have? Why get up and do anything? Why go to college? Why fall in love? It all just ends in death anyways right? What is the point in doing ANYTHING if death awaits you no matter what?

Can you imagine facing that paradox, and have it be all you think about every day of your life? That was me, four years ago.

Call it the law of attraction or whatever, but being in that state of mind attracted only the worst sorts of friends and lovers to me. I ended up seeing this woman for better part of two years who did to me what I had done to my high school lover. She put me in a box and threatened me if I left the box or even looked outside of it. She caused me to reap my own karma that I had sown many years earlier. I hated life at that stage.

Then I was introduced to Marijuana at 23 (very late in life for most people I know). This was a silver bullet for me. After I discovered Marijuana, all the guilt and anger from my past seemed to not matter as much, and my thinking pattern began to change. See, I had not allowed myself to think much outside the box both because of my upbringing and subsequent evil girlfriend later in life. I had assumed, quite falsely, that what the church and the government had to say about drugs was correct. After experiencing a drug for the first time, I began to question my stance.

Despite what most straight people claime, Marijuana made me smarter. Not in the sense that I could smoke a joint and read about quantum physics, but I could just sit still in my own head and have it not be unbearable. And when I would do this, paradox after paradox kept creeping up in my mind. What made a man different then a woman (for me to have forced my first girlfriend into obedience like I had)? Aren't all dualities dependent upon each other? Isn't that a perfect form of symbiosis in the end? The dark needs to the light in order to exist and vice versa. How could it be any other way?

Finally, I was beginning to discover some hidden understanding in life that I had overlooked. Somehow, the paradox didn't need to be solved, just understood for what it was. And since weed had caused me to come to these revelations, I began to wonder if there were any other chemicals that could help me further in my quest...







And so I found shrooms. The first time I had ever taken shrooms, I had an experience that altered my entire perspective on life. At the time, I had walked away from anything spiritual and considered myself a hardcore rationalist (realist is what I referred to myself as). So imagine my surprise when I take this chemical, thinking it won't be too much different then a weed high, and all of a sudden I'm not even me anymore!!

Imagine for a second not knowing what a breakthrough is, then having one unexpectedly. I had no reference to what was happening to me, no understanding of where I was and how I seemingly had left my body somehow! Somehow this place I found myself in felt more real than my normal life... and why did it all feel so familiar? I was convinced while it was happening that I had died and went to heaven, and was quite comfortable with that notion. When I opened my eyes and found myself back in my living room, realizing I had not died, I moved my head to the side and I saw a very large reptile-man walk through the wall in my kitchen. As I witnessed this startling thing, it whispered at me telepathically the word "Magellan", and after that the trip was pretty much over.

This blew my freaking mind people! What I experienced I knew in my heart of hearts was real and important, and so I set out on a journey to understand what had happened to me and what that 'place' was all about. After many experiences since that time, I fully understand what went wrong with my life, how I accepted a false belief system just because others were telling me I had to believe it. I didn't ever realize I had the ability to tell them no!! I had felt trapped at that point in my life, because I had allowed this voice to develop (the ego) which told me how trapped I was and how hopeless it all was. The voice was the wrong part, it wasn't me but an imposter pretending to be me!!

So why do I use DMT? Because it saved my life, and continues to give my life purpose and meaning. I know, through psychedelics, that there is another world besides this one and I'm a necessary part of it. Death and fear have no power over me anymore, and I've never been more content.

Sorry for the long read, felt like sharing this morning Smile
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#9 Posted : 4/13/2012 3:13:20 PM

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Awesome post Tek! I resonated strongly with a lot of your post - I think indeed people seek out psychedelics for some form of metamorphosis, whether knowingly or unwittingly, as seems to be the case with that first mushroom experience! My first 'breakthrough' (of sorts) was with LSD, which both terrified and intrigued me. It certainly changed a few things!
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#10 Posted : 4/14/2012 12:00:45 PM

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No experience with just DMT here -- yetRazz (at most, ayahuasca), but what draws me to it is the same as the other psychedelics.

To learn, to push boundaries / explore, to see beyond what is normal, to grow, to be mesmerized.
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#11 Posted : 4/14/2012 3:31:20 PM

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I want to understand everything. To come to terms, finally with myself and the nature of my reality. To accept the world for all it's evils. To join in on life and living, uninhibited, creative, free and in a state of love.

Dmt has at times greatly magnified and exaggerated some of my paranoid type tendencies. If I put my insanity down on paper it will be way more convoluted than Illuminatus and the Invisibles and the Matrix all combined. And dark and Lovecraftian as all screaming hell.

I keep taking breaks, of weeks, months, even years, from dmt...but I keep coming back.

I'm just trying to work my way through my own madness, dig myself out of hell. It is getting better, slowly, years and years of work--and the spice certainly has been an amazing gift, an indispensable tool and a gratuitous miracle. I have seen gut wrenching and horrible proof of all my worst fears, had my greatest heartbreaks mocked without mercy. I've also seen how good it all could be. Makes it worthwhile, and stuff.

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This may ruffle some feathers... If you can't deal with having your ass whooped from time to time, you probably aren't very good at life, IMHO. DMT in many ways is a rehearsal - for life, for death, for stressful situations.


You are cracking me up Purges. I love it when someone sais something that is not at all humble and then follows it with "IMHO". Also, I was reading in Obamas voice, so that helps.
"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods." Albert Einstein

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#12 Posted : 4/14/2012 4:00:48 PM

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I think that i was subconsciously drawn to altered states.

As a child i was very drawn to 'THE MAGIC' i was told had been stored within the earths power plants.

And i guess i sought out all i could find.

I thought the plants spoke for themselves, but i now believe they are tools to be used through humans, for all sorts of reasons so long as the reason is positive.

I have used the magic of altering consciousness with these 'Tools' for relaxing, thinking, for fun also to connect and be happy or to be away from 'reality.

I used spice* first because a friend told me i had to try it, having never heard of DMT before.
My friend had never tried it also but had read and heard a lot of it, and the chance to try it was opportunistic so i took the chance.

And i could tell there was something very special in this something real it felt like it had consciousness itself, so my journey with Spice began.

It was a full on force of energy for a long time and only recently has it began to form, i have broken through completely once, and now there is always some type of presence, at least n image or theme,
but i had a dose yesterday and a full entity swooped down with the onset and blanketed me in a pool of colour, and then after the peak i received information from it.

It was swirling colours but they had direction like a sign language that i knew, and they were telling me info on things i had been contemplating the two weeks leading up to this experience.

This was the first time i had planned to smoke so far in advance.
Also the on come was very light compared to every other time, i do not know if it was the DMT or my preparation?

I use it because it is special, and because it is always different changing.
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#13 Posted : 4/14/2012 9:17:52 PM

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to un-blindfold myself for a "short" period of "time",
sometimes to talk (to myself ?)
sometimes even to diagnose myself (or get diagnosed ?)

a psychological jump into ice cold water, with a hard time grasping breath, for a warm feeling of well circulated epidermis when getting out.
 
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#14 Posted : 4/14/2012 9:48:32 PM

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why NOT would be the better question Wink



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universecannon wrote:
why NOT would be the better question Wink


Why NOT go DMT, and Why you should NOT take DMT Pleased
 
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I am extremely curious about the nature of reality. And hyperspace is by far the most interesting thing I've encountered in this life.
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I mean, who really believes there is such a place as Hyperspace!!

 
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For me the spice is a tool, highly overused in recent times. I use it when I need it which is sparingly compared to the daily use of others. I find that it holds certain values some are of great worth others mislead and send the user on flights of fancy that is misinterpreted as a spiritual path in and of itself. This is not the fault of the chemical but the expectations of the user. It's a powerful tool often misunderstood and often mis used. Like fire it can bring great good or great ill dependent on the intent of the user.
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because I want to.
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benzyme wrote:
because I want to.



put simply, yes. but i originally went to spice out of curiosity and already having been a psychonaut. but the beautiful experiences that leave you in tears at the sheer beauty of it all make me yearn for more. so i keep returning b/c interesting is a much better word than fun. even though it's fun most of the time (almost always for me)
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#20 Posted : 4/23/2012 10:02:57 AM

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I ask myself this question pretty often actually and I honestly don't know why I do it. So far it hasn't improved my life in any drastic way. It has changed my life, no doubt, but not necessarily improved it.

But I do know that I've been fascinated with NDEs, OBEs, phenomena of that sort, since I was a kid. I would read every article or book I could find on the subject. So in a way it doesn't surprise me that I ended up here.

So I guess that's why i do it!
 
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