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#1 Posted : 1/26/2009 5:22:57 PM

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So i was speaking to one of my friends the other day, and he told me that his work place are going to start random piss tests, the fascist bastards.

Now, hes not worried about Spice as hes pretty sure that:
• It wont be covered on the test they do.
• And if it did, it is broken down far too quickly to shown on a test.

He may be wrong on this, so im sure hed appreciate if someone corrected him if required.

However, he informs me that his main concerns are more for weed, shrooms and acid.

Now he knows that for regular smokers, weed can remain in the system for up to 6months as thc is fat soluble.
A stoner friend of his, told him that he should drink vinegar!!
Has anyone else heard of this. Will drinking vinegar rid his system of any tell-tale signs?
Or for any chemists out there, is acetic acid gonna remove thc? And shrooms n acid for that matter!

He obviously doesn’t wanna have to be paying for those drinks that you can buy to clean your piss, although he will do if no one can offer an alternative.
So if anyone does know of any tried and tested remedies you can use for this sort of thing, he would be greatly appreciative
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#2 Posted : 1/26/2009 5:42:15 PM

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dmt wont show on drug tests..its there anyway...and SWIM knows people who get drug tested..and they have to stop smoking weed..but they take acid and shrooms instead...im not sure if they can cheaply test for acid and shrooms..or even if its safe to do...check out erowid..but im pretty sure dmt, acid, and shrooms are fairly safe...that is if you can actually get real LSD..not sure about other synthetics
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#3 Posted : 1/26/2009 5:57:40 PM

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acid shrooms and dmt will all be out of your system in a couple days. they probably won't even look for any of them anyway they are not standard compounds to look for. but if something suspicious shows up they might check it out.

anyway yea the crappiest part is weed because yes it can remain in the blood and urine for a number of months depending on how much one smokes. about the vinegar thing. I wouldn't count on that or any of those emergency piss solutions, the only real way to pass is to stop smoking or just occasionally and hope someone doesn't get the wrong day.
 
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#4 Posted : 1/26/2009 6:07:21 PM

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Hopefully its just a bad rumorEmbarrased

Might want to do a couple laps in the pool. Wouldn't say foolproof, but great exercise.
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#5 Posted : 1/26/2009 6:10:20 PM

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Yeah, i thought acid shrooms and Spice, hed be fine with, but its the weed he needs to worry about.
So can no one attest to the vinegar thing, or know of any other way, or am I gonna have to tell him to stop smokin weed!?
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#6 Posted : 1/26/2009 6:11:26 PM

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coz42 wrote:
Hopefully its just a bad rumorEmbarrased
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Its defo true im affraid. Was confirmed today!
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#7 Posted : 1/26/2009 6:13:04 PM

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Nothing works. Stop smoking the weed. It will show up in the test for sure.

When SWIM stopped smoking weed, he could still feel the effects several months after he stopped! It took over 3 months to get back to normal. That’s because the dam chemicals stays in your system for a long time. After quitting SWIM never touched the stuff again. He doesn’t like the fact that it stays in the system that long. That's insane.
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#8 Posted : 1/27/2009 1:26:30 AM

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what ive had to do is only smoke on fridays
i 6 ft 220 lbs
and pissed mon and came clean
but if hes a cronic smoker every day hell have to quit for a while
then he can join me in a once every friday ride

can only smoke a bowl but if you only smoke once a week you get of preety good lol

now i dont suggest this but

i smoked a big azz blunt the night be for i had a piss test for probation
and just ate a gang of niacin and drank way to much water and passed

i did this when i was young very in shape like 4 % body fat

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#9 Posted : 1/27/2009 1:47:20 AM

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All botanicals are safe to use during drug testing except the followings- Opium Poppies (Opiates), Erythroxylum species (Cocaine) and Cannabis (THC). All other psychoactive botanicals will NOT show up on drug tests.
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#10 Posted : 1/27/2009 1:50:30 AM

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69ron wrote:
Nothing works. Stop smoking the weed. It will show up in the test for sure.

When SWIM stopped smoking weed, he could still feel the effects several months after he stopped! It took over 3 months to get back to normal. That’s because the dam chemicals stays in your system for a long time. After quitting SWIM never touched the stuff again. He doesn’t like the fact that it stays in the system that long. That's insane.


Very low doses remain in your adipose tissues. The levels depend on the amount of use, as they accumulate. they effects you are speaking of are likely do to other pharmacological changes rather than the small amount of the metabolites that are released from adipose tissue. Changes in receptor concentrations, and enzyme induction are much more likely.


 
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#11 Posted : 1/27/2009 1:53:46 AM

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Flushing your system with water immediately before a test can clear it for a few hours but because the cannabinoid metabolites are stored in adipose they are slowly released so they will be back in a few hours. If one doesn't smoke a lot then the metabolite will only be in the body for a few days but they accumulate so if one smokes a lot it will take in the body and take much longer to all be out of the system. Some Detox drinks work although they are expensive.

Check out Spice gold if SWIM is looking for an alternative.
 
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#12 Posted : 1/27/2009 2:04:41 AM

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Spice is synthetic shit... I wouldn't smoke it.

Does anybody know which Detox drinks work best?
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#13 Posted : 1/27/2009 8:38:44 AM

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Spice is synthetic shit... I wouldn't smoke it.


its just a potent cannabinoid agonist. while i wouldn't smoke it either its not synthetic shit. the chemical is used in lots of different research fields to answer questions about the cannabinoid system and how it can be used in treating many diseases.
 
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#14 Posted : 1/27/2009 5:23:30 PM

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JWH-018 was conclusivly found in spice gold and artic spice. THC pharm was licenced by the country of Germany to do the testing. My guess is that all the herbal smokes that actually work have either -018 or -076 or some mix of the two in them.

That being said Spice has been used for a couple of years without any incidents. It's safety profile is unknown, but it does not show up in tests.
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I am certifiably insane, as such all posts written by me should be regarded as utter nonsense or attempts to get attention.

I don't know SWIM and personally don't trust him at all. If SWIM is posting, most likely I will not respond...as I said, I don't trust the guy. YOU I trust, but never SWIM.
 
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#15 Posted : 1/28/2009 6:04:50 AM

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I'm pretty sure most stoners just use other peoples' piss.
 
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#16 Posted : 1/28/2009 9:30:58 PM

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JWH compounds have been evaluated. There is nothing wrong with synthetics. It is the individual compound that matters. Just because something is synthetic doesn't mean it is dangerous and just because something is natural dose not mean it is safe. I don't know why people have this misconception. Terrence McKenna said that at least with plant preparations you know that people have been using it for thousnds of years safetly. however if a new plant HA was found then we wouldn't know about it, but many people would consider it safe because it is a plant. Also many compounds (including DMT) were considered synthetic before they were found to be produced in nature. LSD is synthetic and it is very safe.
 
 
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