I'm quite experienced with San Pedro/Achuma and have used many different methods of ingestion. However, I'd like to kick it up a notch with using either Caapi or Rue. Can anyone help me with these questions...

1) Has anyone ever brewed a San Pedro tea with Caapi or Rue? I'd like to just throw it all together and brew it up at the same time. I usually spend 8-10 hours doing the pulls on the Cactus because I like to get all the goodies out...might as well throw the Caapi in there at the same time, yes?

2) I have lots of San Pedro resin and would like to use some Rue seeds or Caapi tea with it. Since the resin takes so long to kick in, when would be a good time to dose the MAOI? Do it before I consume the resin? Or wait until a couple hours after taking the resin?

I was considering making a Caapi tea then taking the resin...waiting 3-4 hours until I feel it really starting to hit...then drink the Caapi tea. Will that work or will it be a waste of Caapi?

Any help or info would be appreciated!

Caapi can be brewed in the same pot as pedro, some people call this San Paapi.

You can evap this and encapsulate and take at the same time, or take some mesc resin and then take harmalas an hour in or so. I just take them at the same time, and throughout the mesc journey.

Your method of drinking the tea 4 hours in will work, too. Experiment and find what you like best!

Thanks for your response! I am just worried about over-doing it with the Caapi/Rue and the Mesc.

I will just start small & work my way up.

If one is going to brew up 'San Pappi'...should less cactus be used than a normal dose they would use? Say, instead of using 2 feet just use 1 foot and 30-40g of Caapi?

I am also considering taking the Cactus and then smoking some powdered Rue seeds throughout the experience to see how that works. I have heard both good & bad things about mixing Rue with Cactus so I am hesitant to do it.

"use 1 foot and 30-40g of Caapi" Ya I would start here, it will be great, you will get a feel for potency and know if you want to double it up on the mesc next time.

Vaporized harmalas are great, but you should at least extract the seeds with a manske tek and then vaporize the alkaloids in my opinion.

So I finally worked up the courage to smoke some Rue seeds during my last San Pedro experience the other week and it was amazing! I wish I had been doing this all along. I will definitely be smoking some during every trip now.

I smoked some during the peak and started tripping really hard for about 15-20 minutes...so hard I had to lay down and tell myself everything was ok & it will pass haha. It gave me a feeling similar to when I first started smoking Cannabis as a teenager and would get way too blazed and have to try to calm myself down. Excellent!

Next I plan on making a strong tea with a couple feet and eating a few grams of Rue seeds before drinking it.

VIVA LA CACTUS!

I myself have made a 36 inch brew of san pedro by itself, And made 24 inch brew along with cappi on another occasion. And the 24 inch with the cappi was like "holly moowiee cappiowie I would say it was like a brew of about 48 inch cacti!! the best mesc trip i have ever been on! it came equiped with 8 ft. tall lady bug and all