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#1 Posted : 4/5/2012 4:04:24 AM
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This morning I took 160mg of harmalas from a rue extraction sublingually then after 20-30mins went to vaped 30mg of enhanced leaf @ 50/50 ratio and got no effects what so ever. So then I upped the dose another 10mg and still felt nothing I did this until I vaped 60mg and still got no results.
After 15 mins I went and got my bong out and packed another 60mg into it and only felt the smallest effects that felt like dregs with a tiny amount of bodyload.
I am nfi what has occured for me to experience nothing especially since the same enhanced leaf has gotten me to hyperspace plenty of times and around 2 months ago I took 30mg of the same harmalas sublingually with 30mg of spice gave my very satisfying results.

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#2 Posted : 4/5/2012 6:54:34 AM

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Blocked entry can sometimes occur, there are too many variables to tell you what's going on.

Careful with upping the dose from this experience though, 60mg enhanced leaf would definitely break me through (30mg DMT)

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#3 Posted : 4/5/2012 12:48:37 PM

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Lately I've been vaping my harmalas followed by vaping DMT, and that seems to work the best for me. I've noticed that when I take the harmalas sublingually that I too was having much frustration "getting through the front door". I really didn't know what could be going wrong. I'm not sure why, but between our stories, it seems like there might be a complicating dimension to sublingual harmalas for some that we are unaware of. You have your enhanced leaf, but do you have any DMT freebase laying around? If so I would try that. If not, try vaping your harmalas next time (you'll need a bit less than with sublingual) and then vape your DMT/enhanced leaf/whatever.
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#4 Posted : 4/5/2012 1:26:54 PM

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kingpin wrote:
This morning I took 160mg of harmalas from a rue extraction sublingually then after 20-30mins went to vaped 30mg of enhanced leaf @ 50/50 ratio and got no effects what so ever.
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Any ideas?

160mg sublingually? A “normal” sublingual dose for me is between 10-30mg. 160mg is an adequate oral dose for many.

I’m not sure if that has anything to do with DOE (denial of entry), but it might.
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#5 Posted : 4/6/2012 12:22:51 AM

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kingpin, did you try your enhanced leaf before? Was it the first time that you worked with harmalas?

It personally took me some attempts with different dosages before I got the right effect from harmalas. Most people need to take between 3 and 3.5g of rue, I need 3.8 or more.
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#6 Posted : 4/6/2012 3:22:22 AM
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@ gibran, I have taken 30mg of the same harmala before which gave me very good results but my friend took 200mg of my harmalas sublingually then smoked 30mg leaf(15mg) dmt and was absolutely destroyed for an hour, hence why I followed his method.

@ Dante, yes and yes. I have vaped the harmalas before but found that it wasnt as good as the 3 times i have taken 30mg sublingually and the spice has being tried and tested before.

The main reason why I wanted to do it this way was because I would like a longer experience but havnt got any freebase to do pharma.
 
 
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