So last night I had a couple friends sit in with me, and my gf as well. 40mg in my spice bong. A little nervous to plunge in. Sat on the edge of my bed, lit the torch, hit the bong. I filled the bong with vapor, cleared it. After setting everything down I noticed I was having a difficult time holding it in. It felt like a strong hit and holding my breath was becoming difficult. I held as long as I could, not wanting to waste any. I laid back, pulled the beanie over my eyes, and exhaled. It was kind of a rough exhale, I was going in hard and it was already "effecting" my breathing. Now I'm gone.

I hear strange sounds this time. Almost like transformers. Now its gone and I see beautiful kaleidoscopic triangular shapes within a rotating circle that was many circles on top of each other. Each one slightly bigger. Yellows and blues, then reds, yellows, greens, and blues, then back to yellows and blues ect.

Something was about to happen, but then I became concerned about my breathing. The something stopped and I sensed that I was holding my breath. When this happened, fairy's appeared on both sides of the rotating circle. First 2 then possibly 3 or 4. They were shaking their heads and clasping their hands together. I could feel their emotion as communication. They were pretty much telling me "no, don't do that". It took a second but I realized what I needed to do. I let go. Let go of my ties to this planet and to my body slowly (I actually wasn't physically aware of my body, only that it existed) and when I did this the visuals increased ten fold and felt as if I had rolled my ethereal head back and was looking up at the most crystal clear crazy patterns imaginable. Purples and shades of pink and black jagged lines breaking it up and pulsing and breathing. I can't explain it.

I see a cube with rounded corners rotating and pulsing and turning inside out. I start to pull back again and I start thinking about everyone in the room looking at me. Observing me. Everything slows down and the fairy's start shaking their heads no and pleading with me emotionally to stop doing that. "Let go" they say to me in feeling. I do it again. I let go.

When I do this they start to shake their heads yes and move their arms almost like they are cheering. They speak to me in emotion "Yes do that, that's how you do it" These fairy's seem awesome to me. I love them, and they care for me, they are allowing me in, they want me to come in. They want me to break through and let go of my ties to my ego and my life and this plane of existence. They are made of light, I can't look at them directly, but they are amazing.

So this happens a few more times. I kept "worrying" about my breathing, or my friends thinking im not breathing or being worried about me. I almost felt as if I had to set an example for them about DMT. I didn't want to cause fear about it. I felt as if i could be judged by how I am while they watch me.

This ultimately pulled me completely back, or at least thats what I think caused it. because I came back to my body, and when i did I instantly pulled my beanie up thinking it was over. hahah

Then I said "Holy shit" out loud and my friend quietly let me know it had only been about 3-4 minutes. I realized it was still "on" and sat there observing the strongest OEV's I have had on DMT. I tried closing my eyes a couple times, but didn't really have any CEV's so i left them open.

I then proceeded to try and explain my experience, as I always do it this way. I was having an extremely hard time using and finding words and then saying them. A lot like when you are on a heavy dose of shrooms. It took about 10 minutes before my speech ability was almost 100%. For that time I also had a pretty strong body high.

I learned A LOT. My GF and I talked for awhile before going to sleep about what it means. Why I felt judged and such. I have that in my life, I push myself so hard and am never fully content. I always have to strive for more than i can reach. I set my goals so high, and never really settle down and enjoy the fruits of my labor.

My main personality attribute is not caring what others think of me. Yet I also have a conflicting trait, where as I am worried that people dont think well of me unless I continue to try and impress everyone. And my journey last night helped me find this out.

Thank you nexus.

Nice report, I really enjoyed reading this. Felt like I was almost there.
It's great you gained some insight into improving your character! It's always good to hear of people taking something back from the experience.

Thank you so much. I'm glad you enjoyed it. This is half of what I was hoping to get out of doing dmt. The other half is exploring the other side of that doorway hehe.

I realized later that the fairies acted with the same mannerisms as did the ones from pans labyrinth. They didn't really look the same, the ones I saw were made of the same fractal light as the other stuff I was seeing. The fact that they were trying to explain how to breakthrough by letting go of my body blows my mind. They were definitely their own intelligence. Not from mine cause I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong without their help.

Yeah the fairies interacting with you and showing you how to let go was my favorite part! Next time try being alone or in a separate room from others, it will most likely allow you to open up to the experience and blast on through that door.
Safe travels!

Ya I'm definitely wondering how it will make me feel being in the room by myself. I have yet to take it alone. I figured that it would help me break through easier. I had before this thought that I had a break through during my last session but now I know it was AT the door and knocking, but not quite through it.

My plan is to lower my dose to around 25mg and wait till I'm more comfortable and have less anxiety. It's strange how I get so nervous. I want to learn how to meditate but I have a difficult time clearing my mind.

I have had a very similar experience where I went back and forth with letting go and not, as I would let go, a gigantic tunnel stretching to the void opens up and as I resisted, it would close.

After you become more comfortable with it I suggest you look into the other vaporization methods as 21-25mg taken in single inhalation with GVG is a breakthrough dose for me. no need to go over 30mg in any case(altough I've loaded as much as 45mg). After you have your tools and tecnique refined you don't have to think about if you will break thru or not, but if you are ready before starting
Believe me if you are going to be seriously vaporizing more than, let's say 10 times in your lifetime you might just as well start saving or directly buy the best tools. Even a basic wooden vaporgenie works well with 25mg for breaking through, one just has to practice a bit.



Anxiety is completely normal and even after 100+ breakthroughs it's still there and for a good reason. Spice is a bit unpredictable and sometimes I hate it That's why the anxiety won't go away so easily(Altough it's diminished for me), simply because I don't know where I will pop up after I break through. Altough there are some techniques to controlling the direction, but it doesn't always work.

Also meditation, it's totally normal if it's difficult to clear your mind. I have gone through many yogas and practices and find that the best way is simply relaxing, cross legged or not, eyes closed or not, the main thing is to try to relax, and the mind and body will follow.

anyway good luck with your progress. It's a long, probably endless ladder... Spice, that is

I'm not completely sure, but I believe I have been using to much heat to Vape my dmt. Last time I pulled away a little and tried doing that and was noticing it was still vaping quite well but in my haste I put the heat back on cause I was noticing I was reaching my lung capacity and wanted it all in one hit, which leads me to believe that I have actually been burning some of the dmt each time.

I don't really like the idea of how the gvg functions. I'm more of a chamber kind of person. When it came to weed I rarely smoked out of a pipe. Always a bong or bubbler. And I like the idea of how my device works. Bulb vaporizer in an acrylic bong. It even looks pretty clean to. I also think that maybe I need a larger chamber.

I'm going to put 15mg in and torch it slowly and steady and see if I can Vape it perfectly and see how far tht takes me. What do you think? What's a good distance to use one of those handheld butane torches if I hold it steady towards the glass?



Ya I know that out of a general respect for dmt I'll always have some hesitation and anxiety towards it. But ya I would like to be able to calm my self down before I dose. I definitely can feel how it effected my entrance into the dmt world. I want a clear head as good as I can achieve before going.

I have also learned lately from you guys that dose size isn't what matters most. Before I thought that's how you gauge a breakthrough but after reading many postings on breakthroughs as low as 20mg and after my last experience I completely understand how it works now. Just gotta control my negatives better so I can have a true go at it with a comfortable state of mind.

Well if you don't like the way VG functions(I wonder isn't the effects priority here over the seconds of vaping), you can use the wooden VG threaded piece to attach it to a aluminum bong piece. you can google Vaporgenie bong.

The thing with bulbs is that they work by conduction, which heats the surface that the DMT is sitting on, causing burnt / wasted spice. Convection heat (ie a stream of air is heated and passed over the substance) works far better with DMT, and you will find it is hard to over heat and waste this way - this is why so many people love the VG. I have been looking into ways of creating my own VG style bong. Will post a thread on it once the project is underway! I don't think it's going to be too hard at all. We'll see.

If you want to keep it simple like some stoners on the web, just get a threaded bong piece and replace the top with a threaded VG piece, but I guess you know that already. I have thought of making a tall glass vaporgenie bong, possibly with some ice in it, wouldn't it be killer? I just wonder of the ease of filling it up, inhaling and exhaling with fresh oxygen, and whoosh, empty the bong.

"Yes do that, that's how you do it" That's the same way to Fly bro

mad report brotha you have a Strong imagination, and convey it awesome PLRrrrrrrr

I LOVE YOU MUSHROOM HEAD.......anrchy

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Lucky it wasnt a Faun that was waiting for you ahaaa. that would scare me.

maybe you could smoke it solo with just your girlfriend present buds, i have only smoked twice completely solo, only changa, but it was way more intense.

i like to have a test bong first, ahaa, some mint leaves or something to prepare the old lungs.

And i have been wanting to smoke some dmt, ready, for the last three weeks lol
I tried setting a date, but the weathers a bit cold today maybe sunday?

Yes, wait til your completely comfortable with some nice, uplifting music and journey by yourself. MY most intense experiences have been by myself when I'm 100% completely calm without a trace of random thought.

I was surprised at the difference and quality of experience.