I always thought deemsters a harmless name because of its affectionate reference to (little?)demons (or at least that's what I think of). IMO spice is a cooler name b/c of the Dune reference. Ask yourself, what would an elf call it?

I think Spice is a suitable name, and my favorite, because it does sting the taste buds a bit...
I don't think any 'name' for DMT is disrespectful to be honest. "Deemsters" is used by hipsters, because it sounds 'cool' and flows easy. IE: Easy to sell on people.

It should be called 'Bore' because it always makes me yawn like I'm bored, and it's quite an ironic name, as you definitely are not bored while you yawn

I think the elves would name it something to do with 'visitor(s)'.

spice for me. has a nice ring to it. but yeah people should call it whatever it feels best to call it. i like dreamtime too

You appear to have missed the point about your perceptions not being the "be all/end all." I hear what you are saying and I am saying that that is your opinion...please understand it as such.

Please re-read the attitude and adjust your language/tone accordingly. If you are unwilling or unable to do that, you are welcome to take a vacation from the Nexus.

^^^ I don't think my perceptions are the "be all/end all" what i'm saying is that it is weird how people aren't able to be patient with others and seem to be defensive about what they think and by the way they are expressing themselves it stinks of ideology. Clearly that is my perception it and expression of what i'm seeing - a lack of patience and acceptance - being humble, understanding, patient is a nice way of being and approaching people. Whether you agree or disagree with my outlook is not an issue.
For the record i'm not being malicious or personally attacking anyone here, so no issue with language.

Maybe the way i see psys as being able to bring time and social interaction into perspective and therefore affecting the user might not apply to everyone. But those things can still be thought of without psys. Basically i'm complaining about people not being nice lol

Actually, there is an issue with the language. The profanity is neither appreciated nor accepted here. Regardless of whether or not you view yourself as being malicious or attacking people, the language presented earlier is not conducive to the atmosphere we seek to create at the Nexus. That is all.

As to people being nice or not...well...the world does seem to suffer from a general lack of nice people. All we can do is work on ourselves and hope that others will do the same

On second thought: who cares what they call it. at least they're calling it.

Does anyone use "The businessman's lunch" anymore? I like that, but it's a bit of mouthful.

I work from home, so I like to have a quick healthy lunch round 12:30.

Deemster is kind of annoying, not in a disrespectful way, just annoying like Lucy and Boomers.

this. i mean really people, this thread is getting pretty silly. i understand where the OP is coming from even if he didn't word his statement PERFECTLY for those of you who seem to be picking it apart at a molecular level. he tried to explain it as best as he could and i do understand where he's coming from, it is frustrating to be in that situation. i am going through it myself as well. but everyone here seems to think that they're take on this topic is the ONLY correct one or simply the best most enlightened way to do it. just like all things in life, it's probably more of a little bit of everybody's take. not just one of you. take the op's statement as a whole, with a pinch of salt, not a finely chopped salad that's been divided into 5 bowls, if you get what i'm saying.



this too. i know this is gonna get a moderator on here telling us to encourage safety, but given the context of this thread, i agree. some people just need to fall flat on their face to "get it". and even then, not everyone does ever get it. it's a sad part of life, but it's one you HAVE to come to except. some people just get swallowed by the world in this life. i used to always want to help everyone i could, and that is a good attitude to have, but you know the saying "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink." YOU CAN'T SAVE EVERYONE. as much as the majority of us on this forum would like to, we just can't. they can only help themselves when it comes down to it.

Stop trying to imply that i'm seeing my self as not being malicious or attacking people, I am technically and literally not doing that. Those are just words in between points if you aren't able to over come your sensitivity to words to see points then you are missing out. Earlier i read someone go "I stopped reading there" lol its shit like this that makes me judge someone's character not whether they use 'stuff' instead of 'shit'. Cursing are just words and harmless specially if they aren't purposely used to be malicious, the importance placed on them is just you.

To be honest I actually started posting to criticise OPs crappy behaviour towards his friends and I can say I made a good judgement on his behaviour being not nice. I call people out when they are not being nice its what I do. What's kinda interesting is my criticisms towards egos where met by people defending themselves and attacking my perceptions, tangents on assumptions of what i'm saying and language as opposed to the points i'm actually making. I'd say read my posts and try to understand and get to know me by everything I say not just the tone or cursing.

was discussing this with my house mate the other day, and he had an interesting take on it - "DMT is an illicit drug, the more words for it the better and less chance of people getting in trouble" ... when it comes to text on the internet, and self incrimination, perhaps he has a point? what do you guys think?

lol i don't have a problem with people calling dmt deemsters apart from that it sounds super duper lame.

Exactly. It does not mean that a person is NECESSARILY ignorant or anything, it just shows where they might be coming from.

And if it matters to the thread, the only time I've seen people trying (sadly) to buy/sell the molecule, they used the word "DMT" and not "deemsters" or any of its variants.

same i've never come accross the word deemsters in a selling context. just plain old DMT. i guess they wanna make it clear what they are giving to people. also, i live in australia, the land of slang. so hearing people use slang for anything is the norm and is generally accepted as part of our culture

I find that the concept that language defines who you are, is, for want of a better word, bollocks. Your actions, feelings, attitude and heart may be closer to defining who/what you are, but 'you' is a very flexible concept. Language (verbal) is merely talk. Dialect and slangs .... it's just words.

And then again, it is still YOU who decides to use the slang and the bad language, thereby in that process probably insulting other people. So in that regard it IS an indicator.

And the phrase "just words" always makes me smile. It's words that describe science and how to do things like making a DMT extraction. Just words and still, they can bring you to hyperspace. Yeah, just words...


Kind regards,

The Traveler

. . . yes, but it is your words that express those actions, feelings, and attitudes of who you are. Was The Diary of Anne Frank "just a bunch of words", or did it express Anne's actions, feelings and attitudes? What a different picture we would have if that diary was full of slang and needless vulgarities.

(The Diary of Anne Frank ends with--not an exact quote, just from memory: "Despite everything, I think people are basically good." What if that line was changed to: "Despite all the fucking bullshit, I think people are basically good."

Just wondering what your reasons are?
It seems you feel strongly on this matter.

The way we conduct ourselves around others and how they interpret that is what defines us to other people. Communication and the words we choose are very important, since others do not have access to our feelings, attitude and heart unless we tell them. So what do people have to go on when they make a judgement about us? What we choose to show them through our language; verbal and physical e.g. body language.

The whole point of verbal communication is to intentionally convey meanings to other people. It is more than just talk, words or noise.

Much love,
Sally xx

Sounds he of all people needs it the most?

I have found over the course of my life that I only have control over how I present myself and speak and that any attachment to changing others is pure folly. People will change of their own volition or they will not regardless of your input. There will always be a consensus group in society that, for lack of a better phrase "never learns to not shit where they eat". Just my 7 cents adjusted for inflation.

Blessings