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#1 Posted : 3/30/2012 4:41:23 AM

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Had an LSD experience recently where I contemplated the difference between the unknown and the known during inner-journeys. Is anything really known to other selves that we explore during tripping or is it all contained within the self experiencing the trip? Is the unknown the region of reality that lies outside the individual self?

Saw a talk called "Shamanism before and after History" Terence Video Collection with Ralph Metzner and Terence McKenna where Metzner mentioned that each amateur shaman must go through a trial of the unknown, but will, then, after becoming confused for a time, revert to exploring the known.

Anyone else wondered about this dichotomy during their explorations?
In the province of the mind what one believes to be true, either is true or becomes true within certain limits. These limits are to be found experimentally and experientially. When so found these limits turn out to be further beliefs to be transcended. In the province of the mind there are no limits. However, in the province of the body there are definite limits not to be transcended.-J.C. Lilly
The Spice must flow
Zat was Zen and dis is Dao.
 

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#2 Posted : 3/30/2012 12:24:05 PM

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I've had a handful of experiences where I received knowledge or experienced something so specific as described in religion of which I had been completely unaware. I'm including two of those accounts below. Also perhaps consider that outside is inside.

Eerie Integration

Symbolic Egyptian Solstice Experience
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
 
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