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#1 Posted : 3/23/2012 3:03:11 PM
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About 80% of the time when I vape DMT I enter into what I could describe as biomechanical machinery, there are plenty of "operators/entities" and everything is working in high detail, powered by some alien bio energy. Sometimes it's beautiful, but sometimes it's qrotesque and looks like very dirty/rusty.
Does anyone else get this?
I could imagine some alien spaceship looking similar inside.
 

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#2 Posted : 3/23/2012 3:28:01 PM

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You are almost describing Hansruedi Giger's art.
 
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#3 Posted : 3/23/2012 3:35:38 PM

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journeys through H.R. Geiger world would be immense
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#4 Posted : 3/23/2012 3:47:26 PM

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recently had an experience that I was able to repeat over and over where I was squeezing through a portal into
something that felt like a ship made from consciousness.
It was beyond amazing there was no felt presence of entities just a big open space filled with vibrational energy.

It was taking very large vapes to get me into this thing. The power of it felt big, i felt like i stumbled on to something that was very significant that was beyond my comprehension to understand its structure and source.
It was like a monkey in a shopping mall. Or a squirrel sitting behind the wheel of a Ferrari .
I had no clue what to do with it beyond just experiencing it.

In the moment it felt like the biggest secret ever discovered, I'm talking for real not a dilusional thought
it still feels that way.
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#5 Posted : 3/23/2012 4:10:00 PM

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Wow H.G.'s art is some creeppy sh*t. Something that I would have liked alot more before this new post spice reality. I for some reason unknown have had a huge spike in artwork lately and I really want to find some origional hyperspace paintings.
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#6 Posted : 3/23/2012 4:46:21 PM
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WTF, this is almost exactly what I see, except it's much more colorful!












REMOVE THE BEINGS









I wonder where he got his inspiration.

Thanks for sharing, I didn't know about him before, even when I knew about the aliens of course
 
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#7 Posted : 3/23/2012 4:55:42 PM

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tele wrote:
WTF, this is almost exactly what I see, except it's much more colorful!

(...)

Thanks for sharing, I didn't know about him before, even when I knew about the aliens of course


Yes, when I read you it sounded exactly like describing Giger's work.

Wikipedia wrote:
His most distinctive stylistic innovation is that of a representation of human bodies and machines in a cold, interconnected relationship, described as "biomechanical". His paintings often display fetishistic sexual imagery. His main influences were painters Ernst Fuchs and Salvador Dalí. He met Salvador Dalí, to whom he was introduced by painter Robert Venosa. He was also a personal friend of Timothy Leary. Giger suffers from night terrors and his paintings are all to some extent inspired by his experiences with that particular sleep disorder.


He also was fascinated by Aleister Crowley and other magick/occult influences.

I relate a lot to Giger. I even made a college work about him, and read about his sleeping disorders. I know well about night terrors... I posted here in the nexus about them, but got no replies.

The slightly rotten, strangely organic textures he uses remind me of things I have experienced with salvia. I haven't got there with spice (yet) Smile

In any case, glad you discovered him, tele.


Edit: I propose a game... Smile let's see who recognizes the faces on top of this attachment you posted:



 
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#8 Posted : 3/23/2012 5:03:55 PM
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Thanks Vodsel.

Does these images ring anyone elses bell? Just add some color and a bit of postitive vibe to them and voila, tele's journeysLaughing

EDIT your pic might have crowley and leary in it?
 
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#9 Posted : 3/23/2012 5:12:47 PM

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tele wrote:
EDIT your pic might have crowley and leary in it?


BADA-BING. Correct Smile

And the face in the right is H. P. Lovecraft.

But let's hear about what other people can tell you, I didn't want to hijack the thread.
 
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#10 Posted : 3/23/2012 5:19:16 PM
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Vodsel wrote:
tele wrote:
EDIT your pic might have crowley and leary in it?


BADA-BING. Correct Smile

And the face in the right is H. P. Lovecraft.

But let's hear about what other people can tell you, I didn't want to hijack the thread.


You just brought it to lifeSmile
 
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#11 Posted : 3/23/2012 5:32:48 PM

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In one of Giger's books he briefly mentions "the technique of psychedelic painting", but goes into no more detail except that he credits this technique for his realistic handling of lighting and form. Very possible he played around with a few substances.

I am an artist that does a lot of heavily Giger-influenced work, except more colorful. I draw, paint and tattoo this stuff all the time, but it's had really no influence on my spice journeys, which tend to be very colorful and geometric, with a shifting jewel-like quality. A friend of mine once took this really nasty designer drug called DOC (not recommended, folks!) and had an all-night intense biomechanical nightmare trip, where his body was being continually destroyed and rebuilt into these rapidly morphing biomech forms, very bony and rusty. I love that imagery but I don't envy his experience.
 
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Didnt he do the art in that movie? Oh wait, it was the magazine which featured his art.
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#13 Posted : 3/23/2012 7:14:30 PM

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#14 Posted : 3/23/2012 7:17:55 PM
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I read dna the cosmic serpent a while ago and it's quite interesting...there is a mention in the book where shamanic art is compared to modern biochemical structures and it's very simmilar to the way it's presented in modern science without the artist having any previous knowledge of any scientific method or biochemistry.the classic snakes in a helix symbol that's used in many different cultures world wide might just be people experiencing the structures that modern scientists have theoreticly calculated by connecting to the body on a micro level...apparently Dr crick also realised that the dna structure they where working on was a double helix while tripping on lsd.Whether it's true or not has always been an interesting subject to me ,aswell as the fact that he believed that it was very possible for dna to be of extraterrestial origin which is nice to me in a way.The current accepted scientific hypothesis of how life originated is certainly interesting and makes sense up to a point but imo there is quite a few unanswered quetions in there although it is commonly accepted as fact.We pretend to know so much about ourselves in the modern world but we haven't even scraped the surface Smile
 
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#15 Posted : 3/23/2012 7:55:59 PM
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obliguhl wrote:


I like this quote from that threadSmile :
Quote:

Oh how great it would be if he'd be able to smoke more than 15-20mg in one go....glorious it would be. But it's impossible.


But now possibleCool


BTW on the subject of the biomechanics, I have speculated that it could be the operation of our brains on another level, it's also interesting how I many times see little "operators" there who seem to be running the show. For example when I look at a bright picture and close my eyes, I can see (DMT'd) how the picture is made of complicated biomechanical structures.
I think if or when we can explore the mechanics, it could be that we can get slightly better understanding of what DMT actually is.
 
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astralspice wrote:
Wow H.G.'s art is some creeppy sh*t. Something that I would have liked alot more before this new post spice reality. I for some reason unknown have had a huge spike in artwork lately and I really want to find some origional hyperspace paintings.


I have never seen anything more original and authentic hyperspace art than G's works.

When I compare his works to places I visited, they are very much alike and very well depicted, but it seems that Giger has been mostly on "the dark side", while I usually visit intensely colored and sometimes "positive vibe" places.
 
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#17 Posted : 3/24/2012 1:52:36 AM

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Probably 75% of my freebase journeys involve super high tech machinery or computers. Many of the entities I encounter seem to be a machine/computer and a living being as well. Like they arent living flesh on top of a machine like the terminator, or a living being with some machine parts or computers implanted in them, but they are completely alive and completely computer, like they are some different type of life form. Ive always been interested in robotics and artificial intelligence, but since using spice my interest in that area has gone way up.

That artwork is awesome by the way, somewhat similar to what I encounter, but what I see is usually very brightly colored.

 
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Dmt for me has always been mechanical in nature, its precision mathematics/mechanics at its best. That artwork is similar for me also just doesn't represent just how connected the features of hyperspace are and how they move or evolve together. Even when I've been to a space with 100's of individual beings they where still clearly one.
Black then white are all I see in my infancy.
Red and yellow then came to be,
reaching out to me, lets me see.
There is so much more and it beckons me to look though to these,
infinite possibilities.
As below so above and beyond I imagine,
drawn outside the lines of reason.
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#19 Posted : 3/24/2012 10:25:18 AM
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emptymind and ewok: It's interesting you can relate to the matter of biomechanical experience. Emptymind, I totally agree it's usually very brightly colored, sometimes with rainbow colors.

I find the note that they are all one/connected very interesting. Something like all taking energy/being connected to the one source, well aren't we all, but there it's sometimes clearly visible. I have even speculated that they are all operating my brain on biomechanical level as it seems to be the case sometimes, but of course maybe it's just another dimension. It's hard to tell for certain as always with DMT.
 
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#20 Posted : 3/24/2012 4:22:45 PM

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I also have had many DMT experiences where the landscape took a very biomechanical shape, although it is usualy much more colored than in Giger's depictions.

I am also a huge fan of Giger and love art that works with the biomechanical aesthetic. I see it as an interesting way to depict inter-connectedness, future and past blended, organic and mechanical, sharp contrasts, singularity and energy patterns.

Two other artists working in that style that I am fond of:

Peter Gric









Nome Edona







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