Things got a little out of hand today. Up on the mountain again after a 2 week break .

It took an unusually long time to breakthrough into the "zone" even after a full dose of caapi tea .
After a number of attempts right when i was ready to give up it came on.

The first round was intense, a trans dimensional space with each consecutive hit.
it was fast and furious . The only way I can describe it is that it was a cross between some kind of sport game
and a jetti training session.
Each hit allowed me to squeeze through and link with a space that was some kind of energy force, It seemed to have
finite dimension at least the area of it I was able to percieve. All I can say is it was big, it was dynamic and alive.
I had a fleeting thought and wondered if the military knows about this thing. There was a moment where it felt like some kind of very advanced ship way beyond anything conceivable at the moment.
A hyperdimension star ship built with consciouness.

I was it and it was me it was a linking togethor or a merging of some sort.
The visuals were not unfamiliar. Fun house opaque fractal infinity. Many room lke structures, stunning reds oranges and yellows. My brain was using this completely different mechanism of perception. This is not unfamiliar to me. I was fully present and intact during the whole thing.

Fast forward after a break and some lunch I got the urge to go again. SO of course i did I probably should have quit while i was ahead but i couldn't resist.

almost immediate connection once again. This time more of a one on one feeling. Felt it many times before.
It likes the connection to me, wants me to smoke more and more. It wants to deepen its connection to me.
At first I was joking with it saying " you like It don't you? " with each consecutive hit i could feel the connection getting stronger and stronger. I felt weird sensations in my brain. It felt like it , they were poking at my brain.

then i began to feel a totally new sensation, I felt pain in my shoulders an my arms. This force was extending down into my body trying to become me. It was really scary and I began to protest and tell it to stop,
things became very diabolical at this point where i suddenly realized this thing was invading my body as if it wanted to feel our world through me. Its a symbiotic or parasitic life form of some kind.
I told it to fuck off and get out !!! I felt pressure in my back and arms like this force was trying to infiltrate my body in some way. I got up and tried to shake it off. I felt sensations in my brain and body that were new to me.
I felt heat in my hands like it was running a specific test checking temperature . it turned up the heat in my arms then down. it was too much and the implications of it filled my mind. I felt like this thing was using me in some way. I have to trust my instincts at this point.
At the moment i'm not feeling too good about this and plan a very extended break.

sorry for the rambling just needed to get this down while its still fresh

I don't know you at all...


But what describe sounds familiar in a way to something I went through a while back. A break may do you some good.

Do you have any sort of spiritual practice? Right now I think you need to feel grounded and center yourself. A hot shower and some comfort food maybe? I ask about spiritual practice because it sounds like it is all too real for you right now. And you wish to "trust your instincts"--in other words, treat it all like it is real, right?


If I felt that way right now, I'd be setting up a geometric arrangement of quartz around my land. Or even a circle of rock salt around the premises. I furthermore have war regalia I would be donning, spirit helpers I may call upon, that sort of thing.

It seems to me like the connection between you and it was a prominent theme in the trip that may have invited that experience. I've had beings enter me before, it was a being that consisted of eyes, and it entered through somewhere near the base of my spine and traveled up into my head. It started exploring through my thoughts and memories and kind of 'read' me, then everything shifted to another trip all together. I didn't resist it entering me though, I wasn't worried by anything.

I don't know if a break would help.

I,ve had many many encounters like this
It's always a similar routine. Today was different
This thing was getting too physical with me and poking at more stuff than usual. I am trying to see this whole thing from different angles .

One perspective that I have only recently begun to explore is that there are certain entities or forces that may not be what they seem. They have developed a way to connect to us using Dmt as catalyst .

I don't have a belief sytem to rely on.
All theories provisional.

It's sometimes a good idea to fight back. I liked "Jedi training simulator", that sounds familiar. It isn't always about laying down and closing your eyes. See also various threads about spontaneous yoga and such.

Very cool report.

feeling you brother. not sure what i would have done in the same situation...normally i just surrender and allow visitations but if it 'felt' wrong, then you were right to put your psychic foot down. the important thing is that you are all right now...

sounds like you got some shtuff to process...i'm here if you need to talk. sabatacle is officially over.

L&G!!

Crazy probing entities!! Dont know what to say. You know them better than most likely half of us here. Actually it is your trip, so you know them best!

Seems like you have some ideas on what DMT is. I always thought it was reaching out to other beings, but you have this idea that it is them reaching out to us trying "use" us. DMT is like a tool for them to come through us!

I thought of DMT as a wormhole to go to other places for a short amount of time, but if we can go, then "they" could come back!

One thing I see from your posts (and dont get me wrong) is you are getting frustrated by a block of some sort. You want answers and you cant get them or dont have the language to speak or translate the infomation.
I wonder if you can resight back some of the language, try to record it or sound it out, then post it. Maybe it is a language one of us understands! Or can decode somehow. If it is that simple. But if it is just bleeps and pops, then it might be impossible. Although morse code exsists too! Try that with them!

In any case seems like you are getting deeper and deeper now. Goodluck!

I know the feeling of parasitic entity coming directly to you, altough I don't know about them coming inside you. Usually I say "fuck off, get out" as soon as I am able and it leaves soon afterwards. It's messed up how the entities can morph into the music and into the desktop wallpaper for example and manipulate them and even show themselves through them.
The entities energies can be felt immediately after they come near you, that very moment it's easy to tell if they are "good" or "bad".

The mechanism that brings these unpleasant beings to the surface isn't clear to me. I wish there would be a technique to stay away from them for good.
When some say "take a break from DMT", I don't think it's that simple(well even if sometimes they appear after excess use), but that we are dealing with something more complicated here.

DMT definately as we all know is nothing to be messed with so I think we should advice the newbs the best we can, at least not to do it "just to get high", just couple thoughts...
I'm sure you're experienced with this and you have no problem with it, just one of those "tough/surprising" journeys, however a newb might have a big problem with such experience.



Well at least at the time I see physical entities with my very open eyes THIS DEFINATELY SEEMS TO BE THE CASE and even obvious


thanks for sharing.

There many levels to hyperspace.
There seem to be quite a variety of multidimensional lifeforms floating around in there. Some are very beautiful and join with you in amazing ways . They stay at a distance and are generally pretty gental in they,re interactions.
Sometimes its hard to tell something is there.

It seems now that with continued use all roads will eventually lead to this thing that is not so gental. it snuck up on me and was deeply connected. I got the distinct impression it wanted to take me over completely . It was using
Me to feel and sense our world.
it was poking at stuff in my brain no doubt .
I felt sensations I never felt before.
I felt downward physical pressure.
I will suggest that if your in hyperspace and
Start to feel pressure stop and reaccess the situation.

The good news is that I don't think they it can cross over into our world . The totally paranoid part if me is wondering if they are learning each time we connect .


4days later my mind still feels wacked out from it . I,ve felt pretty good for the most part just extra spaced out.

I really appreciate all your responses thank you
So much .

In one of my early DMT experiences, I was outside of my body with other beings. I was one of them. I don’t remember what they looked like, mainly because I don’t think they had physical form. Although I was outside of my body, my “physical” body was present in this realm as an elongated glowing blue orb.

The other beings were very curious about my body. I got the sense that they had never been incarnate, and that having the opportunity to experience physicality is very rare. So they were very curious, and asked if they could enter into my body. I said they could, and they did. It’s hard to describe their behavior at that point, but it reminded me of a child trying to drive a car – they were totally unfamiliar with being incarnate, and were doing many strange things as a result.

I became concerned, and reminded them to be gentle – I telepathically said something like “Be careful, I still need that!” I gave them a bit more time, and then told them their time was up. They complied, and left my body.

At that point, I was feeling very privileged to have a body and to have “adapted” to it.

Not every “body invasion” need be viewed negatively. I see such events as expressions of curiosity on the part of entities who are very unfamiliar with our physical existence.

Can't think of any decent advice for you, but I've had around a one year break from smoking spice, and only a handful of other psychedelic applications in that period, and it's been very good overall. Some of the stronger tryps I had - such as entity encounters or seemingly trans-dimensional encounters - feel like they're still with me. I feel like, ironically, I have a better understanding for how DMT feels and acts after not using it for a while, like my brain has had a chance to work on what transpired.

Only other thing to note is your comment, "does the military know about these?". A friend once described watching television after being healthily lysergified, when all of a sudden the TV went static, and an alternate channel came through the TV, some sort of hyperdimensional or psy-ops military training video broadcast by mad geniuses to be perceived only by the electrified few - presumably with the intention that unintended viewers would not be able to see it. Other people I've talked to have heard of this as well. So maybe they do know about what you saw?

Holy moly

That is a wild ass concept. the hyperspace military channel WooooooooooooW

The power of this thing is off the charts

Sounds like They Live

This reminds me a bit of that movie Ghost. Where the lady (spiritualist) lets the girlfriend / wife use her body to connect to him (the ghost) one more time to hold and love.

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One thing I read, where the entities were around and then they got scared by the part next door. This means they can hear and see what we do in this dimension! Is DMT the helper? Or are they here all the time and we can only see them while on DMT?

That military thing is crazy! I am not at all suprised. Because the military tested LSD in the 60s on the troops

Yeah. Does anyone really think that they examined the stuff and concluded, "There's nothing here. It's uninteresting"? :evil:

There is an Alan Watts essay where he it talking about his experience with various psychedelics and he says in his opinion DMT is uninteresting and bland compared to LSD!

^I've heard from a few different sources that back in the 60's people did not know you could "breakthrough" with DMT and would just smoke it to get a LSD-like effect for the most part. Statements like that make sense when you take this into consideration.

Also:



Wisdom!

I've had something very similar happen to me. I was teetering on the edge of a breakthrough on mushrooms when I could feel the presence of beings nearby so I sort of mentally said: 'anybody there?' and there were two presences that came super close to me. One was distinctly masculine (Voice #2) and the other was definately feminine (Voice #1). The male entity was curious by my ability to communicate with them while the female entity seemed to be annoyed at what was going on. I copied and pasted the dialogue I had with them below.

Me: Anybody there?
Voice #1: Come on let's go
Voice #2: But look he's trying to talk to us
Voice #1: Let's just GO!
Voice #2: (directed at me) Hey, you're doing that wrong
Me: I am? Who is this? Teo is that you?
Voice #2: Um... I don't know who that is sorry... we're just passing through
Me: Oh... well what's it look like (my life) from your side?
Voice #2: (waits a moment, like he's looking) Not too bad really. It's really rare for your kind to be able to communicate like this... you surprised us
Me: I think I surprised myself
Voice #2: Why don't you come out from there? You're missing out of all the cool stuff just gripping onto it (my life? dunno what it meant really) like that... you look silly
Me: I don't know how
Voice #1: See? He's just a baby! He doesn't know anything can we leave now?
Voice #2: But he can talk to us that counts for something doesn't it?
Me: (to myself really, although they apparently could hear me still) So it's like a medium then (my mind)...
Voice #2: Medium? (seems to be... checking my memories? Very peculiar sensation of feeling my memories being poked through) Yeah! I guess you could say that... the mindscape is a medium we travel through. You can do it to you know it's quite easy
Me: I have no idea how to do that
Voice #2: Here we can help!

-At this point I feel a very distinct pulling away from my body. I'm not sure what these beings where doing but I think they were trying to help me lift off into hyperspace, but I was very reluctant to leave and gripped onto my bed very tightly and refused to go-

Voice #2: Wow... you're really stuck. Well we can't help you if you don't want to go
Me: Thanks anyway... but I think I'm still learning
Voice #1: (laughs) Look he thinks he is that thing!
Me: No... you're wrong. I'm not, but I still haven't figured out how this works
Voice #2: Well since your stuck show us how it is (in my reality)...
Me: Um... ok. What do you want to see?

-I got the very distinct impression they were interested in the way our sex drive worked... I feel almost insane typing this since this is so unlike any other trip I've ever had, but I felt overcome with sexual energy and looked at some erotic pictures on the the internet at this time and preceeded to... er herm... show them how it worked if you catch my drift-

Voice #1: That is really weird...
Voice #2: How exciting!
Me: Hey! Can you tell me about 2012?
Voice #2: Huh? What's that?
Me: Something is supposed to happen to my world in 2012... it's a date. Can you check it for me?
Voice #2: Um... it doesn't work like that. We would have no idea where to even look. Sorry...
Me: It's ok... thanks anyways
Voice #1: Now can we go?
Voice #2: Hey it was nice talking to you
Me: No thank you!

Tek: what a fun description! Reminds me of a friend's account of loaning his body to a group of entities. He was shrooming in a very old graveyard (why? Don't ask me) and at one point felt himself "approached" by beings whom he initially thought were ghosts, but later admitted he couldn't say for sure. One of them asked if it could "wear" his body for a moment. He agreed, and the beings all took turns. Each turn was short- enough for a breath and a few heartbeats. And with each "guest", he felt the sense of absolute total wonder and astonishment that each of them experienced as they took that breath.

To a non physical being, imagine how exotic, rich and vivid a moment in the human sensorium would seem. Every moment is a precious gift.