So, I was told that Vaping DMT is way, way, way, way more intense and a way more mind blowing experience than taking it orally with some b. caapi.


Is this true?

I'm asking because I have done neither yet, but I have some MHRB and some caapi and I want to know which method is the best way to utilize the DMT.

Thanks.

i dont have much experience with either ..

but i think the best advice anyone can give you is to try both .. and see which you prefer

"Is this true?"

No, lol..not in ther slightest.

I can never figure out where this myth comes from. Oral DMT with cappi or rue has the potential to take you way wayyy more out there and be far more intense and frightening than vaped DMT.

Here is the thing..people often just take lower doses of oral DMT and then vape really large doses and then make claims like you heard..that oral DMT is weaker. These people often have little experience with ayahuasca I find.

Dont let that scare you away from oral DMT and ayahuasca though..just dont jump into it with big doses assuming that it is an easier experience..it is not. Vaped DMT is far easier a thing to manage becasue it happens so fast and then before you know it it is ending..sure vaped DMT can completely blow you away, dissolve your ego and freak you out..but oral DMT can do all of that just as easy, and when you add a decent dose of oral harmalas to that it deepens it significantly..and it lasts hours.

I prefer ayahuasca, but vaped DMT and changa can still show you alot.

For me..I have vaped DMT hundeds of times and drunk ayahuasca, I dunno seems like at least 200 times..and I have to say vaping DMT has really blown me away..but..nothing has come close to how blown away I have been on occasion with ayahuasca..nothing.

Wow...............that is awesome.....I can't wait for my first Aya experience coming up here....glad to hear that it is as good or better than vaping.

Thanks.

seriously though man..be careful. This stuff is not a walk in the park my any means..

You can sit there and think about how awesome it will be to trip balls or something at that level..trust me, it is far far far more difficult, horrifying, wonderful, beautiful, ecstatic and relentless than you can imagine. This stuff is medicine before anything else and can lay you out like nothing else.

Be wise and start off lower..ayahuasca is something you dont want to jump into the deep end with until you learn how to swim a bit. Ayahuasca is medicine best worked with frequently over a period of time or a lifetime in my opinion and experience. Ease your way in.

Just warning you..

Best of luck on your journey.

Thanks for that advice. Yeah, I have been planning on starting small. I want to try a low dose to get an idea of what I am dealing with.

When I do shrooms, I pretty much always do 7 grams and I really love that feeling of being wrecked and just totally "layed out" as you say. With that being said, I realize DMT is a lot stronger than shrooms, so I definitely will be careful and start small.

Jaime (or anyone with experience with it) how much stronger is vaped dmt after taking caapi orally than just vaped or smoked with an maoi? Will it also last for hours?

it seems to come on slower for me but no it doesn't last for hours, although i usually still feel all giddy and glowy until i fall asleep. It definitely deepens and lengthens the experience though dramatically if you smoke dmt/changa on a good dose of caapi or rue. It can be a bit distracting for me if the dose of oral harmalas is too high but generally i prefer that combination as opposed to just changa/dmt smoked by itself

I'd also advise you to try both, in different way :
Vaping straight n,n-DMT.
Drinking caapi only brew
Drinking caapi then vaping spice
Then Drinking caapi brew with oral n,n-DMT or mimosa tea.
Start low with both medecines and work your way up.

There is no such thing as vaped is stronger than oral, all depends of how it hits you.
The only real phenomen is vaped is shorter experience than oral. Even harmalad, you'd be back to baseline within 30 minutes.
Oral spice is another story and you'll have to take three hours of ride. But well worth it.

[quote=rOm
Oral spice is another story and you'll have to take three hours of ride. But well worth it.
[/quote]

3 hours? Nine for me, sometimes twelve.

The thing with oral high doses is that the lenght combined with the intensity can be too much for some people. I personally prefer just to do vaporized DMT sessions(several "blastoffs" starting with a 15mg warm up dose) combined with sublingual caapi extract, and the sessions often last 2-4 hours and I am very satisfied with it, so I have no interest in oral DMT at this time. I like the way I go to hyperspace and come back to wonder and then go back again.

Recently I have really loved smoking caapi extract followed by the DMT dose, which really draws the trip out and adds a much more personal quality to it. I rarely journey without an maoi these days, but it's always good to experiment

Do you vape it in the GVG?
And have you tried yet the sublingual caapi + vaped dmt combo?

Great idea there.

Well, for me, I am looking for those long experiences. So a 3-9 hour DMT trip sounds amazing.

3 hours? Nine for me, sometimes twelve. [/quote]


AWESOME..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!