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universecannon
#21 Posted : 3/16/2012 9:46:47 PM



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After my first eye opening mushroom trip, I was researching a short film many years ago I was to write and direct; the story was that 2 characters (D & his love interest MT Shocked ) lived in a futuristic underground post-apocalyptic society in which the trafficking of information, in any form, was strictly forbidden by a totalitarian government that controlled all "INFO" and "INTEL". Meanwhile, a covert society, "the INFORMATION CULT", were cultivating and planting human specimens (called donors) in the population - people who through years of genetic engineering produced massive amounts of dimethyltryptamine in their pineal glands (this was 1991 remember!Wink ). At a given age, the information cult would send out mutations (failed specimens) to capture the "donors" and extract, or harvest, the DMT from the gland and administer to ancient decrepit women (Black Widows) who were wired into the infrastructure of the underground cities; these women would use the drug to "travel" through time and history, acting as repositories for all of human culture and history in a society that was determined to regulate this information out of existence. The women were, in fact, a sort of INTERNET, 10 years before 99% of the population had even heard the word!

The film was called "D,MT & the Black Widow" and was finished in late 1991.

That, strangely enough, is how I learned about DMT. I did not actually try it until 18 years later! (researching different strains of mushrooms led me to Erowid, where i found QT's old extraction tek that I performed once before finding the nexus and better more recent teks)

Cheers,

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hahaah thats epic!

I honestly don't remember the first time i heard of it Crying or very sad

it was definitely via the internet though sometime in 2007 or 2008. Most likely when i was a lurker on hipforums or shroomery and stumbled into a thread or section on it.



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#22 Posted : 3/16/2012 11:06:55 PM

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First time I ever heard of DMT was in 2007 when I read Daniel Pinchbeck's book: 2012 The Return of Quetzelquatal. I was fascinated by his description and went on the net and found myself here...and the rest is history! Cool
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#23 Posted : 3/16/2012 11:21:52 PM

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1997. The invisible Landscape had just been re-printed.

Wait a minute--a few years before that I had read brief mention of DMT in both the electric cool-aid acid test and Tim Learys book 'high priest'.

Back in like 98, 99, I used to read up all the erowid, gracie and zarkov, ect online...

Winter of 2000/2001 I found someone who actually had some dmt to share with me.
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#24 Posted : 3/17/2012 12:35:29 AM

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From Jamie back on the old Entheogen.com saliva forum.
Thanks Jamie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Note that the poster of this message would never actually use or recommend to use illegal substances. He is just an attention seeker and should be considered to be lying about everything he posts and his posts are only for the sake of generating discussion.
 
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#25 Posted : 3/17/2012 1:48:14 AM

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Macre wrote:
Skeemer wrote:
This one guy took a good hit and 2 guys started messing with him say fucked up things to him and i was like wtf?? and they told me they packed the bud with dmt and he couldn't hear them anyways.


Shocked Wow they sound like a**holes. I'm glad DMT found you my friend, and myself, and everyone else here.

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for real. What pleasure do people get in screwing with someone and ruining an amazing experience. That poor guy will probably never try spice again. I am glad it found me at the right time in the right place!
 
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#26 Posted : 3/17/2012 11:35:42 AM

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for real. What pleasure do people get in screwing with someone and ruining an amazing experience. That poor guy will probably never try spice again. I am glad it found me at the right time in the right place!


Yeah it's a shame that sometimes the best things can fall into the wrong hands. Though I hope this is rare, and these people are the minority. Maybe that guy is destined for other things.

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#27 Posted : 3/17/2012 10:30:01 PM

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I'm pasting this from my introduction essay due to the relevance. Great question, very interesting to read though the various first steps.

"This all started with a movie two months ago on Netflix. It was somewhere around 0130 when I hit play and well after the credits rolled before I blinked again. I did a quick search of the Pineal gland afterwards and suddenly I tripped… I’ve been happily drifting in this rabbit hole ever since and with the daily influx of new information I continue to thrive on, I realize I’m still VERY near the surface. Later that first morning, 3 am whenever and I find myself pacing through the darkness with Tool’s, Third Eye, blasting in the background. 100 + times before I’ve listened and pondered those words but right then it felt like I was hearing it anew with the lyrics making perfect sense. Then it’s 5 am and I’ve dug out my old Organic Chemistry molecular model set: sitting happily as I piece together the bonds of n,n-dimethyltryptamine (while laughing at a Bill Hicks rant)..."
 
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#28 Posted : 3/18/2012 2:17:10 AM

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universecannon wrote:


I honestly don't remember the first time i heard of it Crying or very sad

it was definitely via the internet though sometime in 2007 or 2008. Most likely when i was a lurker on hipforums or shroomery and stumbled into a thread or section on it.

my story is similar, i don't remember when i first heard of it. i remember it was offered to me in 08 but i turned it down because i didn't know enough about it and watched 2 friends smoke it. i'm pretty sure i'd heard of it before that though. it was either on the internet or by word of mouth because of the music scene i was into at the time (jam bands and whatnot). i remember looking up a lot of stuff on erowid and reading extraction teks on the nook.
 
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#29 Posted : 3/22/2012 2:01:25 PM

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Lol Jbark, great story bro Very happyD

Bumpity bump bump dont get the gunk in the nps please.
 
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#30 Posted : 3/22/2012 2:20:49 PM

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After years of researching botanics I found ayahuasca, and later on its main ingredient DMT which came to be my final destination, my magic.
Mad, bad and dangerous to know.

There's magic out there!
 
jbark
#31 Posted : 3/22/2012 3:01:41 PM

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DeMenTed wrote:
Lol Jbark, great story bro Very happyD

Bumpity bump bump dont get the gunk in the nps please.


Thanks! If ever I upload the film online I'll be sure to let everyone know! I'll have to upload it without my name all over the credits, though, I guess... Shocked

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#32 Posted : 3/22/2012 3:35:39 PM

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I began consuming and researching psychedelics in 1986. At that time I encountered brief and intriguing references to it in a few books.

In 1988 I met and fell in love with my husband. He was the first person I met in real life who had actually tried DMT . . . . back in the year when I was BORN (the 1960's) . . . it was synthetic but sold as a kind of pseudo-changa prep. He would receive squares of aluminum foil with parsley infused with DMT in them. They'd be single hits. He never broke through and neither did his peers.

In 1995 my husband was working as a housing contractor and got a job that evolved over a period of time into a permanent solo gig at one couple's house. The couple were SCARILY intelligent. Genius level intellects, DEEPLY classically educated as well as currently on the very screaming cutting edge of EVERYTHING, including personal lifestyle choices and practices.

After awhile the couple told my husband to quit addressing them formally. They said everyone who knew them this well and all their friends called them, "Gracie & Zarkov." We thought nothing of it.

One day my husband and Zarkov got into a deep conversation about The Grateful Dead, Tim Leary, the 1960's revolutions and what they did during those times. Psychedelics came up. One thing led to another and without being anything more than vague, Zarkov told my husband to enter, "Gracie & Zarkov," into ANY search engine . . . .

My husband came home and did just that. HOLY CRAP!

Gracie & Zarkov had published HEAVILY in the mid-1980's on the topic of DMT. We read some of their trip reports out loud together. I eventually got a signed copy of their famous, "Notes From the Underground."

This whole time, EVER since 1986 or so I KNEW I really wanted to try DMT before I died. I knew that this was somehow personally important to me. Even back when I was younger and just saw drugs as a path to getting high, to enhancing a party atmosphere . . . .


Time passed and things changed. I entered into a classic "mid-life crisis" that came to a terrible peak . . . .I was considering what felt like personally desperate options . . . . and somehow psychedelics popped back into my head after about a 20 year break from use . . . .

Within two months I saw an add in "High Times" for Salvia Divinorum. In no time at all I found the www.sagewisdom.org site.

I began reading on psychedelics again, including a number of very cheezy, "Legal High" books. I started noticing in the references and notes sections of these books, consistent references to something called, "The Entheogen Review."

I researched The Entheogen Review, but by that time they were done with publishing. Fortunately for me they were offering ALL of their issues compiled onto a disk for about $40. I jumped on this opportunity.

I read EVERY SINGLE word, including all references and notes of ALL of those ER's, from 1992 to 2008. I was hungry, I was a dry sponge, thrown into a lake of clean, clear water . . . .

In Fall, 2006 (I think) there was an ER article by a guy called Noman called, "DMT for the Masses," and it had a simple STB tek. At this point I had tried a couple horrible teks, basically from youtube and other super-sketch sources and had yielded nothing that appeared safe or useable . . . .

A 2008 edition of ER had an Addendum to the 2006 article, changing a few minor things.

Taking the original article and the addendum I completed my first successful extraction. It was so WHITE! It looked good. It smelled floral. I had done it! I was nervous . . . . knew on some level that the meth pipe I had purchased for DMT use would immediately be destroyed OR become my very best friend after I tried it. I deferred this first experiment.

The DMT sat in a vial in my fridge for a couple of weeks. I think I sent my power bill through the roof that month - I looked in that 'fridge so many times every day . . . . Razz.

I tried the DMT at a sub-breakthrough level and was AMAZED. I had never had an experience like that, even though I had flooded with LSD and broken through with salvia. . . .

One of the final articles in ER was Entropymancer's (DMT Nexus member) Jungle Spice article. Fascinating! One of the best parts was the annotated notes at the end. And so many of those were weird.. They kept having crazy quotes from guys with hilarious (I thought) usernames from some place called DMT-Nexus.

Intrigued, and already liking the name very much, I borrowed a computer and checked the site. Wow! I lurked for awhile, but all other sites and groups I had found seemed utterly lame when it came to DMT discussion . . . .

I finally created an account and made my first introductory post. I told a story that was dripping with the mid-life crisis I was still dealing with, including how I had recently quit a 10+ year addiction of opiates, muscle relaxants and SSRI anti-depressants.

I was rapidly welcomed and integrated into this community, even though I've always stood out for various reasons . . . and continue to be misunderstood.

Nonetheless, it's all good. I would never go back or even look back. The way out is through and this is NOT a bad thing, it is a beautiful thing.

Not sure if/when I'll use DMT again, but am sure that I will not be able to quit this community quite so easily . . .

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#33 Posted : 3/23/2012 2:19:24 AM

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interesting story, Pandora. Thanks for sharing

It's always nice to know how people find this stuff. I bet a more and more common answer from younger people would be "the spirit molecule" book or film.

Recently, a friend of mine started talking about ayahuasca and how mystical it seems. I was really surprised, I did't think he would be that comfortable talking about drugs. He said he had watched the documentary called "the spirit molecule" and that is was all science and serious research etc. So I asked him if he would try DMT and he said "maybe, i dunno". Then I asked if he would try any other hallucinogen, he said "no way!". Very happy

It seemed like my friend did't think of DMT as a drug in the classical way. And this was from just seeing the movie. I found that pretty cool. He's very anti-drug and don't even drink alcohol.

So I believe that movie will popularize DMT among people that normally would not be interested. They might even start popping up in this thread Smile
 
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#34 Posted : 3/23/2012 9:44:29 AM

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How did I find DMT? or Vice versa? Hmmm...

I first heard of Ayahuasca years and years ago. It cropped up on documentaries and the like, most notably Tribe with Bruce Parry. I greatly admired his level of humanity and understanding towards these tribes, and also the way that he would go all in with their entheogenic rituals. Of all the drugs he imbibed, Ayahuasca and Iboga stood out. Ayahuasca seemed like a purge fest and Iboga seemed like really really hard work, how ever I was fascinated.

I heard of / read about DMT somewhere along the pipeline, and found out it was one of the main constituents of the Aya brew. I was heavily into various forms of drugs at the time, some good, others not so good, and I was keen to experiment and broaden my horizons. A friend of mine told me about the time when she smoked DMT and my ears pricked up. She didn't really say much about it other than it 'felt like eternity' and that she didn't really like it.

Fast forward a few years and I start to have these strange dreams. Dreams where I am taking or looking for DMT. Very strange. It would even pop into my head during the day when I was day dreaming. I knew that subconsciously I needed to try this stuff and i began my search. Of course from there, Terence Mckenna popped up, along with Erowid, Alan Watts and, sigh, Joe Rogan etc. I gobbled it all up and was even hungrier than ever. This was just too weird and magnificent for me not to try. I read some extraction TEKs but couldn't really get my head around it at that point, plus didn't trust myself to make a pure product.

Then, one day, a friend of a friend had some Changa, I spoke to him and he agreed to let me have some. The first time I smoked a little and it felt great. The second time I smoked double that amount (I wasn't weighing it, 1:1 Changa :shockSmile I had my first glimpse of an entity, an angelic looking face, and a giant hand reaching out to me. I was blown away. I had a few rough trips after that as i played with dosages and got used to this mind blowing compound.

I then started reading extraction TEKs, and with the help of Pandora on another forum, I harvested my first crystals and bought an mg scale. I have said this before, Panda, but THANK YOU so much, I seem to remember bombarding you with questions and you being a very patient guide. After my first extraction, and a bunch more crazy rides I decided I liked Changa better than Freebase and so started looking for ways to make it, which led me here and everything finally started clicking into place. I haven't been to any other drugs forums but this one since. after a couple of months here I felt well versed enough in many aspects of extraction, Changa creation etc and have felt a duty to stick around and help where I can, as well as learning as much as I can.

I try to make a point of smoking at least once a month now, and the changes in my life are subtle, yet dramatic at the same time, it's hard to explain, but this stuff is now playing a fairly central role in my life, my drug taking habits have changed completely as well which I am very grateful for and I hope to be able to work with it for the rest of my life.
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I'm 16, having lunch with some friends, one sticks some headphones in my ear and tells me to listen. The song playing is "Divine Moments of Truth" by Shpongle. And it's the best thing since sliced bread!

I take the headphones out. "It's about a drug called DMT," he tells me. "People smoke it, come back saying they met beings of pure energy."

And so it began... I didn't become seriously interested for a few more years, but the seed was planted...
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#36 Posted : 4/1/2012 11:33:49 PM

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Back in high school a older guy gave me a cd simply labeled "Infected Mushroom" and one of the many tracks was this one:

It soon became a hit between me and my friends, even though we had no idea of what DMT was and if the sample was actually saying DMT (we didnt really speak English at the time) Laughing
Many year passed by and I ended up living in UK where I started going for shrooms picking and meeting new fellow psychonauts. One of them is a Nexus member, who proposed me to trade some of my shrooms for a 'special thing"... I happily accepted and, after directing me towards the Nexus for more information, he gave me a generous quantity of changa Surprised
After browsing for various months, I decided to take the big step and here I am!
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I initialy read Doors of Perception. Realized i was highly fascinated in psychedelics so, I used amazon to show me similiar books and found some of McKennas work. Throught that i stumbled upon beuty!
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a friend gave me some in 98, i looked for it actively after that, but the next dmt i saw was in 2004-5 in my evap dish
 
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universecannon wrote:
jbark wrote:
After my first eye opening mushroom trip, I was researching a short film many years ago I was to write and direct; the story was that 2 characters (D & his love interest MT Shocked ) lived in a futuristic underground post-apocalyptic society in which the trafficking of information, in any form, was strictly forbidden by a totalitarian government that controlled all "INFO" and "INTEL". Meanwhile, a covert society, "the INFORMATION CULT", were cultivating and planting human specimens (called donors) in the population - people who through years of genetic engineering produced massive amounts of dimethyltryptamine in their pineal glands (this was 1991 remember!Wink ). At a given age, the information cult would send out mutations (failed specimens) to capture the "donors" and extract, or harvest, the DMT from the gland and administer to ancient decrepit women (Black Widows) who were wired into the infrastructure of the underground cities; these women would use the drug to "travel" through time and history, acting as repositories for all of human culture and history in a society that was determined to regulate this information out of existence. The women were, in fact, a sort of INTERNET, 10 years before 99% of the population had even heard the word!

The film was called "D,MT & the Black Widow" and was finished in late 1991.

That, strangely enough, is how I learned about DMT. I did not actually try it until 18 years later! (researching different strains of mushrooms led me to Erowid, where i found QT's old extraction tek that I performed once before finding the nexus and better more recent teks)

Cheers,

JBArk


hahaah thats epic!


Epic it was at the time too!

My research for that short film led me to do some profound first source research into Alchemy for a (so far and likely-never-to-be-produced) feature script that I was to write in which, in an another post-apocalyptic society where food was incredibly scarce, most of the food trafficking was handled by the CM (the Culinary Mafia), but occasionally behind-closed-doors deals were made for other very questionable foodstuffs.

The script was called the Restaurateur (yes, all puns intended!) and the protagonist was a chef who owned a restaurant called "the Pelican Soufflerie". To keep his restaurant afloat in a foodscarce world, he traded for illicit hospital-back-door biohazard waste and also with crooked or bankrupting construction companies for scrap plastics and rubbers and other meltables to make sauce... The whole mess was thrown into a huge two story grinder in the kitchen of the restaurant to be mulched up and served to guests, but when the CM catches up with him, he has 2 choices - die trapped inside his burning restaurant or submit to hosting the mafia's annual cookery competition and agree to be an entrant. His hopes to win his ex-girl back (an ailing ex-screen actress) are thwarted when he wakes up one morning to find someone has removed his arm! The next morning, his leg! Despite fighting sleep and rigging elaborate traps, every time the Restaurateur succumbs to sleep, an appendage disappears! How will he win the Mafia's competition and save his restaurant and his life with no limbs? And who is cutting off his appendages, one by one, and WHY?

Suffice to say, some mushrooms were consumed in the writing of this script!

Hope you enjoyed these 2 tales. If ever the RESTAURATEUR is made, I will be sure to post an invitation to all card carrying Nexians!

Cheers,

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