I will preface this by saying that all of my DMT experiences - barring my last one, and one in which I snorted a small amount a day after taking an MDA analogue - have been positive. After my first experience.. which was entirely positive and a life changing event.. I assumed that DMT was only a useful and positive 'thing.' Now I'm not so sure.

This is what happened..

I was sitting next to a friend of mine.. who happens to be a satanist (I didn't know this until after I told her I just encountered baphomet), and we had consumed some alcohol. She suggested we smoke some DMT.. and even though I knew that its something I need to do usually on my own.. in the right frame of mind, I did it anyway. I smoked it first.

I can't be sure how much I smoked, but it wasn't enough to fully break through away from *this* reality. I've always been "here" in some way, in every experience.

Anyway, some moments after I inhaled and kept it down.. I didn't feel quite right. I had my eyes closed.. and the 'fractals' as I call them formed into this horned goat man. He telepathically transmitted some information to me, I can't remember what exactly, but it felt like he was trying to force me into experiencing him. I did my best to fight against 'him'.. and it felt like he was reaching inside of me and merging with me through the center of my consciousness.. my pineal gland. It felt like he was trying to enter into me. I felt him squeeze part of me in my chest and near my shoulder.. felt like a 'pumping'/squeezing sensation.

He "looked" almost exactly like this:

http://media.photobucket.../savagebeasthou/goat.jpg

I need to know if anyone has any insight about this experience. It has kind of scared me away from DMT somewhat. Maybe it was the alcohol somehow affecting my spirit in such a way that I 'invited' this being to me. I fear that I'll encounter him again, and that he is now 'following' me since I am aware of his existence. I've never encountered entities before, and I didn't think I could at the dosages I usually use. The only entity I ever encountered was what I would call the consciousness of the universe. I felt like it was me and I was it and everything was it.. and it was beautiful, and whole. This being on the other hand seemed to be the embodiment of separation. I don't really know what to think now.

sounds intense and uncomforting. i dare say i'd be very apprehensive about smoking DMT with a satanist. Not sure i'd be too down with their intentions about the experiences. there is something quite unnerving about the fact that you came accross this entity prior to realising she was a satanist. i would steer clear of smoking DMT with her if i were you.

Well, she's a "LaVeyan" satanist.. not so much the 'dark' 'evil' kind of satanist. Shes a good person, based on how well I know her so far. Maybe somewhat naive about certain things (as am I) but I don't want to go off on a tangent, and I like her so that shades things somewhat.

It definitely wasn't a comfortable experience. It made me feel very lonely. Like instead of encountering the beautiful 'dimension' that I go to when I use dmt it was replaced with this selfish, controlling, domineering entity.. in the place of what I think of as God/the consciousness of the universe and the higher dimensions.

It was almost as if I had some sort of tunnel vision that cut me off from everything else.. there.. and brought me to only encounter this 'being.'

From the little I've read regarding "summoning" or using grimoires and that sort of thing, one who might call themselves a "satanist" does not typically worship evil... and would not, especially in the case you described, wish to influence negative experiences within other people who may be making or attempting contact in their vicinity. If you are taking DMT and meeting presumably independent entities, it shares certain characteristics of summoning or evoking, albeit not ritually and in a much more powerful and direct way. Summoning isn't even the right word, I'm sure, since you aren't directly inviting specific entities to manifest themselves to you, more like opening your spiritual window and interacting with whomever may be passing by at the time.

By the way, church leaders used to practice this sort of magick (although I do not know if they used DMT or something else similar) and they catalogued the entities they met. I would say maybe you should open your mind a little and learn about what makes this woman tick, what her beliefs actually mean, and how these different entities are described, how to deal with them, and maybe just open yourself up to possibilities. If you are concerned only about the "satanist" part, then that suggests that you may have some Christian leanings... if that is the case, then use your belief, or at least your affinity to the opposite of whatever the devil may mean to you, as a guiding light when you are confronted with this. Or, maybe your own fears of what you think this girl represents colored your experience, and even if this entity were good, you might think it was bad because you set it up as its enemy. It may be as fallible as a human and when it perceives that it is being attacked, it "attacks" back.

This probably doesn't help much, but there is no reason this can't be a positive experience, even if that only means that you learn something about the "spirit world" and how you might protect yourself against letting some entity deter you from glimpsing it.

Keep in mind what you saw and those lessons experienced in your previous DMT trips.. that overpowering sense of what may only be described as the higher self.
Is it safe to say that there is nothing that does not manifest from above, and more to the point, out of your own depths?

Opening any door carelessly is an invitation to unnecessary strain. And even the most seemingly innocuous of circumstance or persons can radiate unwanted cloud and disruption.
Step through strange doors responsibly, with intention — and no great ape, no spiritual satire, falling lambs, dark satyrs, no goat man can ever compare or deign to grasp what you will then find on the other side.

Responsibility. Know your limits.

I have seen Baphomet before, saw it's face and been transformed INTO that figure briefly. Not being a christian, I wasn't frightened by it though.

It was more a direct connection to our primitive mammalian spirit of sexuality, energy, joy, death, fear all rolled into one divine power conduit.

Same thing with Satan/Lucifer. Although that felt more like a sad, 'Prometheus chained' type of feeling.

Like I said, I am not Christian so... I keep Norse, Hindu, etc etc stuff on equal footing with Lucifer, Jesus etc: They are only ways of categorizing something that is beyond description. Like a color that only exists in your mind.

Hey, i've also encountered this baphomet I think. I've had this image on my computer for a while now and it is amazing how much it resembles what ive seen. The colours and style hint to the overall aesthetics to the experience.
You see those geomatric patterns around it's face? He was entirely embedded in these sort of patterns and very big! Around him was only black space that i was floating in but i had a sense of size and my guess is that he was about an average tree or a 4 story building.

I didn't smoke DMT or anything, i was in a dream where i was in a dark room with small floating lights. When i touched one of these lights i got teleported to this Empty space and saw Baphomet. I wasn't exactly lucid but i think it felt so real that i just assumed reality. I got intensely afraid and prayed to god to save me and i either got back in the teleporter room or awoke in a false awakening.

My hunch was that Baphomet is a symbol for newfound information. But like really profound, perhaps new insight into the seperateness of things that is woven into oneness. Atleast on that level of wisdom.
The fact that so many people experience baphomet is dazzling me a little bit but i think that baphomet is not an evil demon. Perhaps an inhabitant of darker parts of the unconscious and being able to merge consciousness with such an "entity" can provide tremendous insight by itself and answer a lot of questions.

My advise is, don't be scared. And don't take alcohol before psychedelics.

Are you positive that this was a ''bad'' experience? I've seen some gnostic media videos which say horns on a creature dosen't mean they are ''evil''. I think they showed some pictures of moses with horns.
Maybe this guy came to you with horns on his head, then your mind automaticly seen it as evil which in turn gave the vision a dark theme.
Weather or not this is true IMO it's a good way to look at it because the best way to fight this evil on the other side is to not beleive in it at all. It been working good for me

It is always a chance that the experience was good! Right?

For me, the devil/demon characters give me the jester vibe. They are tricky, deceptive things that do not deserve serious attention.

You guys all realize that you are giving into a christian idea of the devil, don't you? I am no expert on these things, but I have seen enough documentaries to know that the horned goat idea is a christianized version of the ancient Greek diety called Pan. You know the one with the flute, hence 'panflute'? Chritianity hijacked a lot of pagan ideas in order to be accepted by people.

So if you see a goat figure I think you could go different explanations and the last of them all would be christian beliefs.

Maybe the ancient Greeks and who else that worshiped Pan met this being in hyperspace too, maybe they knew about him and build it into their beliefs. Maybe they made it all up. Maybe he has become an archetypal image of some sort for mankind. So it could be one of those entities people report in the DMT realms. It cannot be the devil and considering the fact you did not fully break though, you were tripping with a load of ordinary mental imagery present.

Satan aka devil is a human construct and an ancient belief
system. It does not resonate with my interpretations of
Hyperspace .

Beware of applying these types of things to hyperspace
Experiences .

Think archetypes and reflections . Representations

Looks like a typical H.S. entity ( at least mine). I think your "fallen Angel" friend coloured your interpretation of things.

Could be we automatically see horns and equate it with evil though I have had two bad experiences with horned entitys, bit of a coincidence I have the bad expereinces and there are these beings with horns, one was tall just like a stereotypical devil though dark/shadowy, one of them had a hawks head like a skeleton but horns again. Ive had a few bad expereinces with no horned beings right enough but those were memorable.



Im wondering Ovidroid do you have any links to that catalog?

Also OP not to scare you but you should maybe look into Daniel Pinchbecks DPT trip expereince, he experienced paranormal activity after that trip and felt evil poltergeists were following him around that he brought back, sure he done some sort of cleansing/excorcism of his apartment. Most people suffer bad trips and their imagination gets carried away, especially when you see the horned entity then find out your friends a satanist it would all add up to a terrifying conspiracy in my mind LOL you will get over it im sure and have many wonderful dmt expereinces, all the best!

The horned goat image of "satan" or "lucifer" is a christain scare tactic that was origionally stolen from the horned goat pagan god "Pan" and had NOTHING at all to do with the stereotypical take on satan that is popular today.

Lucifer means the "light bringer" and even within the christian mythology there are interpretations of Lucifer that are not negative at all. Lucifer was just the angel that fell from heaven to earth to test us in order to bring the light to us.

I also tend to question people who call themselves "satanists" because often I think they dont even understand what satanism really is, or that it seems to differ from luciferianism..neither of them being really negative at all IMO..

Then there are the obvious judgements that take place when someone who might actaully understand these traditions conveys to others that they are satanists or luciferians..

I cringe every time I see some "satanic" devil in pop culture depicted as some horned goat man

I am not saying that you did not experience such a being or that it was just your imagination at all..all I am saying is that because of the way this has been portrayed in our culture as a scare tactic by the church to demonize paganism, your interpretation of such events might be effected.

I once knew this guy that I skateboarded with and he had been so brainwashed by the church in this way that he would go on about world industries skateboards becasue of the devil boy logo and thought they were some stupid evil company..it was weird how much this effected him..this is all just pre-programmed into us because of the religious climate of our times..it has little to do with historical reality though.

In some theories, Lucifer was the leader of a sort of mutiny aboard the alien spaceship where god was the captain. If you read the apocryphal book 'Henoch' it is very suggestive towards him being taken aboard that ship where he was shown around while his limited understanding tried to catch up, maybe not so dissimilar from some trips you can have. Heh.

In some of these theories these 'angels' were aliens coming to earth and some taught us all sorts of things, like metallurgy. I guess you could call that bring us the 'light'. The light of...technology. No wonder that god was so mad and cast these mutineers out. Look what it brought us We were innocent and happy in paradise and we ate the apple of science and here we are. Omg! I am a christian!

Like all psychedelics, you take the good with the bad. They basically just raise the potential of what we experience. The mind is infinite and omnipresent, you never know what it might show you.

Sounds like an epic trip, once I had one of the people in the room I was in change form a bunch of times, but he did it like it was a secret to the person himself. Like he was an ancient alien but consciously didn't know it. He was sorta poking fun at his lower self, or humanly form.

And wow, the second you use "christian" language everyone started freaking out. It's like asking some there astrology sign at church. lol
I thought it accurate and vivid the way you described it and value any language from any myth used to help us imagine what your experience was like, which is the point of communicating in the first place.

Peace and safe travels.

Should I say congratulations?

The term "evil" itself could be considered only a phantom produced by the human mind. It tags along such words as "bad" and "distasteful" with it, which all seem to depend on opinions. And as we all know opinions vary the the farthest extremes of both sides.

I wouldn't consider any trip "good" or "bad" its a learning experience either way. What you encountered could be a profound message to yourself. What that is I could never tell you. But the main thing is don't judge each trip as good or bad just find the potential lesson within it.

Best of luck!

Yes I have knowledge of this type of experience.
This is, in the occult ritual of the O.T.O. Baphomet grade 10 square = 1 circle - he is the initiator.
In the Golden Dawn system of magic, the initiations go from zero as the neophyte, to 10/earth 9/moon 8/mercury 7/venus and the sun 6, these are the degrees of the "outer order" and further progress is made through the "inner order" which is known as the A...A... in the O.T.O
The OTO revises the system of masonic initiation along the lines of the GD system to align with the tree of life.

I believe people are initiating themselves using DMT and that this goes beyond the occult rituals since they have typically lost their sacred word to some great extent and DMT provides the actual sought after experiences. As a matter of fact Crowley who was the head of the OTO, known as 10th degree Baphome initiator, used Anhilonium Lewinii, the earlier name for Lophophora williamsii - Peyote. This is partially why the book of the law is called LA, and that the secret key involves a reversal (AL). The dude was doped up, and he may have turned on others as well, I'm not up on my occult studdies recently. He had a chemist friend though, Brian something. I'm sure he never tried DMT, but he seemed to really trip on ganja from the looks of his book 111 the book of wisdom and folley.

My own experiences have been an openness to the universe and what there is to be experienced, and just like dreams are described in 111, they can be influenced by external factors.

Ancient bearded king seen in profile 10°=1square Ipsissimus, this is the first vision I had with dmt, never read about this info from 777 or even heard of magic from this perspective

in the traditional understanding of the tree of life, 1 is in 10 and 10 is in 1. The crown=1 and its manifestation is 10 - the kingdom. The magical power associated with the sphere of malkuth "the kingdom" is the vision of the holy guardian angel.

This experience of the holy guardian angel is what crowley calls it, there is also abremelin the mage who tells his son in a book how to achieve this. It is as we both know a discipline between you and the universe to cultivate a sacred space. Hey if you share that space with a girl thats always fun, its not like life is about anything other than farting around after all - seriously what is the point of doing ANYTHING? Do we really need to lust, can we get over that? Do we need drugs? Social life? it's nice to be possitive and well fed at least. I like nice ness and empathy and bliss n stuff.

I have experienced the holy guardian angel as I have described in a previous post called "what entities do you see". And yes there is like a telepathic communication. I have felt like I had reached a level of Baphomet due to supporting others in the cultivation of their own sacred space. But the occult initiations stress that there are some guidelines for being aware of the consequences of being a magician, for your words have an effect on people which you must be aware of. Silence is golden, let peoples awareness grow to understand the universe as they will. It is also important to speak your word. I say if you are nice enough to fill someones cup don't make them drink it, or at least don't try to make them see the world through your eyes in your way - allow their awareness of their soul be their own facet of truth.

Its all good bro - you just werent aware of the responsibility you had fully, yeah - he let you know. He showed you what you were doing. Who is that anyway? You tell me