Well... Why the hell wouldnt it work....

So here is the dig... A young man on another forum SWIM is a part of, a private forum... has brought to swims attention that an ethanol extract ie a few shots of alcohol that had soaked in MHRB over a period of days had been combined with syrian rue extract and it was the most effective ayahuasca analog the man had ever had... after many failed attempts this one finally worked he said...
So this struck SWIM at work today... what if... what if... one make a tincture of MHRB in 151 rum... which also has enough water in it to make it a cold water extraction as well... if left in the fridge for a few days to a a few weeks... an extract could be made that could possibly have all of the desired materials within it... possibly much stronger then JUST a cold water extract...
it could have more yumarine (sp) and dmt then a water extraction... possibly... we have allready been shown that a simple ethanol extraction will work of MHRB, and we have seen that a MHRB extraction evaped with heat would work as well... now why not...try it alone and see how that works? SWIM has never heard of ANY one trying this...
SWIM has never before heard of any one trying just a shot of MHRB extract with rue until now... and SWIM has worked with evaped ethanol extracts of MHRB in lucid dreams so one knows it works...

So... if any one wants to crunch the theoretical sceince behindd this... now is the time. this could be a good trick.
it work with rue... will it work alone?
that is the real question...

surprised that no one wants to give this one much thought...

well SWIM would be more interested but he doesnt have any high test ethanol as of late

Alcohol extracts of MRB(lots of active non-hostilis out there)
grab the tannins very well, perhaps this is not ideal?


When you ask, "will it work alone" are you asking if the ethanol extract of MRB will be active without a betacarboline component?

"When you ask, "will it work alone" are you asking if the ethanol extract of MRB will be active without a betacarboline component?"
yes....
A FOAF on another forum has had repeated success with just making a tincture with 100 proof vodka... soaked for 2 hours, then taken as a shot and combined with rue in gel caps.
most powerful he has ever had... he said...
SWIM knows that evaped tincture of MHRB works well... See swims tek... https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...ttle_lightening_bolt_TEK

What swim is wondering is yes will it work with out the addition of a RIMA or MAOI, SWIM has never heard of any one reporting any experiments doing so... SO its wide open...
jeruma is traditionally made rather quickly... its a really quick water extraction. letting it sit in alcohol for two hours would get every thing you want out of the plant SWIM thinks... SWIM also thinks that the tannin content would not be as bad as say boiling it... SWIM has taken MHRB boiled and cold water infused with beta carbolines and its really not that bad...
it stands to reason if swims foaf can get full on aya session with this method it may do the trick with juerema. who knows...


So yeah Jokrest you dont need any high test ethanol... that would be a waste of yer ethanol... just get some 100 proof vodka that would do the trick just fine... SWIM got some 151 rum and will try an experiment with that soon.

what i think would be funny is if people started selling MHRB tinctures... lol

I know it's not that serious, but no one should sell DMT in solution with anything

not that any one would be dumb enough to do so... but a tincture of mimosa would be perfectly legal at least for a while...