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Posts: 2240 Joined: 20-Oct-2009 Last visit: 17-Aug-2025 Location: PNW SWWA
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Water is a basic necessity for life. Without it we die. Water is being controlled more and more by big business and governments world wide. More and more of our water supplies are contaminated. I dont pay for water. I own an old homestead that has an underground spring that comes up on my propery. A well was dug around it in the late 1930s. The well is 40 feet down to the surface of the water and 80' down to the bottom. The walls are bare dirt. The water is crystal clear and clean. Very tasty, about 52 degrees year around. With the title of my home comes ownership of the water rights on my property. I own my water. For now anyway. Most all the other homes and farms around me have new wells that are dug deep, 300'+ down to the aquifer. A county north of me, a county I dont even live in owns the water rights for the aquifer. They charge allot for the water and they put regulations on usage. Recently they asked me to voluntarily participate in a program to monitor my usage by putting a meter on my well. I declined. They also mentioned that the monitoring program was in the name of security and public safety. Is'nt that crazy? I have heard county and state municipalities going to great lengths to take individuals water rights away from them so it can be responsibly managed. I feel for those who have had rivers dammed and had there rigt to water taken from them. Their ability to farm taken. The ability to feed their families taken. WTF is going on? Ice House is an alter ego. The threads, postings, replys, statements, stories, and private messages made by Ice House are 100% unadulterated Bull Shit. Every aspect of the Username Ice House is pure fiction. Any likeness to SWIM or any real person is purely coincidental. The creator of Ice House does not condone or participate in any illicit activity what so ever. The makebelieve character known as Ice House is owned and operated by SWIM and should not be used without SWIM's expressed written consent.
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Posts: 14191 Joined: 19-Feb-2008 Last visit: 06-Feb-2025 Location: Jungle
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Water privatization and control is big, and its happening all around, with some extreme examples in South America and Asia. There are some documentaries about it, which amongst other examples talk about the story of Cochabamba, Bolivia, when even rainwater collected on roofs was charged by a privatized company which bought all of cochabamba's water suplies. There were very big protests and thanks to the efforts of the public rebellion the government ended the deal with the company. If I get some money together im gonna be looking for land in the mountains somewhere with water spring, no doubt. Thanks for taking a stand, cultivating and defending that beautiful land of yours 
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Posts: 201 Joined: 10-Apr-2011 Last visit: 07-May-2024
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Sad... It's bad enough living on grid is surrounded by regulations that may or may not "be for the common good" but for those who choose the sustainable life, yours being a beautiful example Ice, even then regulations always rear their ugly heads...even on something so necessary for life as water. Soon we'll need a permit to procreate. "..I find myself stirred awake by the ambient noises of the world outside and a realization that my train of thought may not be running on time…but I've nowhere to be...except here."
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Posts: 1999 Joined: 13-Jun-2011 Last visit: 24-Jun-2018
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Water and air are the ultimate currencies, of course big business want to get their grubby mits on it. Lose Control, Free My Soul, Break Me Open, Make Me Whole."DMT kicked my balls off" - od3
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Posts: 233 Joined: 20-Nov-2010 Last visit: 22-Apr-2018
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Funny that you mention this.. Reading an article today in regards to the collectin of rain water. Apparently it is illegal in some states Quote: A Utah car dealer, in an effort to do something good for the environment, decided that he would collect rainwater on the roof of a building that would be used for a new water-efficient car wash, reports KSL.com. However, he was quickly informed by state officials that it was illegal in Utah. As it turns out, many states have similar laws about rainwater collection.
You can read more here"If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be a sorry state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny""My orders were to test the drug...It works" Bass Association by Far Too LoudProfile Picture by David Aronson, http://www.alchemicalwedding.com/index.html
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Posts: 12340 Joined: 12-Nov-2008 Last visit: 02-Apr-2023 Location: pacific
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I am fortunate enough to live in an area with multiple springs, all artesian within 5 minutes of my home..and all of them are in area that is already protected as public nature reserve..we wont move to an area without a spring very close by that we always have free access to. Most likely we will just stay in the area that we are in because you cant get much better. I use this water for drinking, any food preperating that needs water and for watering all of my house plants..I just collect large jugs of it every 6 days or so.. The only thing that I would be worried about is having to pay for the water we use to shower and clean dishes. They tried to get my dad to stick a water meter on his house also a few years ago and he wont let them. Most other people here have them I think. I wish I already owned my own home and did not have to rent from other people who dont care about what sort of monitoring goes on in the home they rent out. Long live the unwoke.
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Posts: 46 Joined: 08-Sep-2011 Last visit: 15-Nov-2016 Location: US
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Thugs and tyrants are demanding power. If someone would tie you up and lock you in a basement until you payed a ransom they would be called a kidnapper. If someone tied you up and threw you in a basement because you didn't pay them the same amount of money, but they said it was because you drank water from your own land and they have claimed all the water for themselves they would be called a government. Air, water, land, wild fruits and game were given to all people in common. You have the right to claim your portion only as large as you are able to use for yourself. Any more and you infringe on the Natural rights of others. If someone else claims ownership of all the air, all the land and all the water and demands payment from you for living you can pay them if you want to in order to avoid trouble, but it's no different than giving your lunch money to a school yard bully.
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Posts: 177 Joined: 14-Apr-2011 Last visit: 22-Jul-2016
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I hope its okay to post this in this thread as it might be a bit of a derail, but heres a video I came across that somewhat pertains to this called "illegal everything." Its basically about government agencies going after people for minor code violation type crimes, and in some of the cases seriously ruining their lives. Land of the free. http://www.youtube.com/w...uDBQ&feature=related
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Posts: 5257 Joined: 29-Jul-2009 Last visit: 19-Jul-2025 Location: 🌊
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"There are some documentaries about it, which amongst other examples talk about the story of Cochabamba, Bolivia, when even rainwater collected on roofs was charged by a privatized company which bought all of cochabamba's water suplies." wow.. On a good note, i recently have switched to spring water and it tastes fantastic. i located it on findaspring.com ..i saw this yesterday which is related http://www.youtube.com/w...bedded&v=7aTfyo0Xz_c
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Posts: 1320 Joined: 30-Jan-2008 Last visit: 31-Mar-2023 Location: In between my thoughts
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Ice House wrote: Recently they asked me to voluntarily participate in a program to monitor my usage by putting a meter on my well. I declined. They also mentioned that the monitoring program was in the name of security and public safety.
Is'nt that crazy?
I have heard county and state municipalities going to great lengths to take individuals water rights away from them so it can be responsibly managed.
I feel for those who have had rivers dammed and had there rigt to water taken from them. Their ability to farm taken. The ability to feed their families taken.
WTF is going on?
Better hope they don't start fracking anywhere near you... What, you ask, was the beginning of it all? And it is this...
Existence that multiplied itself For sheer delight of being And plunged into numberless trillions of forms So that it might Find Itself Innumerably. -Sri Aubobindo
Saidin is a fictional character, and only exists in the collective unconscious. Therefore, we both do and do not exist. Everything is made up as we go along, and none of it is real.
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Posts: 2458 Joined: 02-Jul-2008 Last visit: 27-Sep-2023 Location: The asteroid belt
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a friend of mine dowsed for water on his farm he hit the cleanest supply of water around at about 30 meters deep - far deeper than the other farms nice to see dowsing still being used to make decisions that involve a lot of money (yep drilling down 30m is not cheap) antrocles wrote:...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...
...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".
IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.
Quote: ‹Jorkest› the wall is impenetrable as far as i can tell Quote: ‹xtechre› cheese is great He who packs ur capsules - controls your destiny.
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 The Root
 
Posts: 2458 Joined: 02-Jul-2008 Last visit: 27-Sep-2023 Location: The asteroid belt
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bottled water seems to create more harm then even cocacola - i beleave clean water is our birthright - something i would fight for. antrocles wrote:...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...
...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".
IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.
Quote: ‹Jorkest› the wall is impenetrable as far as i can tell Quote: ‹xtechre› cheese is great He who packs ur capsules - controls your destiny.
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Posts: 228 Joined: 06-Jun-2011 Last visit: 16-Aug-2013 Location: Everywhere
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They love to control our every need, and to top it off, there sterilizing and poisoning the water. Stick to Artesian wells or natural springs if available, next best would be a drilled well, followed last by filtered water. I believe water will be more valuable than gold and diamonds in the future. Bottle water companies are sucking whole cities and towns wells dry to fill there plastic trash. STOP Buying bottled water, start utilizing free source as much as possible. Too many zombies already on the bandwagon I guess. Thanks and Praises, Love and Gratitude, Peace and Unity, Hemp Seed & Honey
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Posts: 12340 Joined: 12-Nov-2008 Last visit: 02-Apr-2023 Location: pacific
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Phlux- wrote:bottled water seems to create more harm then even cocacola - i beleave clean water is our birthright - something i would fight for. I would fight for it as well. Clean and free water rights are something that is worth fighting for. Long live the unwoke.
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Posts: 14191 Joined: 19-Feb-2008 Last visit: 06-Feb-2025 Location: Jungle
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I agree plastic bottles is no good, many companies are doing a lot of damage with monopolies and draining places, plus the plastic itself which is horrible but not everybody can get access to spring or wells unfortunately. Ive lived in places with spring or wells and it was great, and if that choice is available of course I go for it, but that isnt always the case. Two cenarios i've been through: What if you're travelling to india? You DONT want to drink tap water if you care about your health at all... Maybe in the himalayas you have water springs but most other places you'll have to make a the tough choice... I had to get bottled water, wouldnt you? Better bigger bottles than smaller ones, but it's still horrible because either its gonna be thrown to one corner (where cows will come to find food and will eat plastic and die a horrible death), or you'll have to burn it and take it to the atmosphere with all the nasty combustion byproducts. And there's no fancy recycling option like in many western countries (its amazing that even when there is recycling options, so many people dont do it) Or my other situation at the moment, I live in a big city. The tap water is of bad quality (though in theory drinkable). I tried buying some filter but it had to be replaced every month and it had mixed plastic/etc parts (which im not even sure if can be recycled), so it seemed counterintuitive to drink it. And just the plain tap water really disgusted me after a while, I was getting dehydrated because my body was telling me its no good and I couldnt drink it. So im buying from a local water company that recollects the big 10L bottles to reuse it. At least its a direct recycling and AFAIK not owned by some giant corporation (phlux, and what about bottled water owned by coca-cola?  ). It's a temporary thing but I think the best out of my given options, and once I move out again to small town I will look for a land with springs.
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