One thing I like about the Nexus is I get to see everyone's different metabolisms, and reactions to these drugs.
I think it is possible that some people would need to go to more extreme measures to "get there" so to speak.
With such detail, I do not see why a person would lie about that. It could possibly be true, and if it is,
it's the largest amount of DMT I have ever heard of someone taking, and I find that extremely fascinating.

I find it extremely dangerous. I find it to be in every likelihood a complete and utter lie, and one that someone else may believe and then try to emulate to their detriment.

I asked EZ4U2Shoot to add a little extra section to his post to warn people that while this might work for him, it will be an extremely large dosage for others.

Also preparation and integration are key here. Before you undertake any large DMT intake, prepare yourself with set and setting, beter have a sitter around and make sure all is perfectly laid out for your coming journey. After the journey, take all the time you need to let it integrate, this can take a long time. For me this integration after my large dose is already taking more as a year and I still think I should wait a little bit more!

So people, be responsible while you experiment!


Kind regards,

The Traveler

Though in his case it seems like an addiction almost, like a DMT junky if that’s possible, dangerous and self destructive. I was thinking before having read this that maybe there are some people out there just not really affected by DMT like others are. It’s a fishy story for sure and for me the ‘sex in hyperspace bit’ seems like a ludicrous impossibility. I remember the first time it started coming on, and how before going bye bye, looking out over at my girlfriend who seemed a million miles away. After that didn’t even see her again until about an hour later.

Wolf

I would agree with you that it is dangerous to dose that high in your average ape setup like yours and mine, but I think it would make more sense to have a sensible discussion with this person rather than just banning them. I think there is something to learn from this person, and others who just don't get off in the same ways we do.

We can emphasize proper dosages while still examining the anomalies. I personally feel data like this is important.

How much breakthrough would one like you breakthrough if a breakthrough could breakthrough ^___^

Traveler appears to agree with you, and as always, it's his decision. I just don't want to see anyone get hurt, and I fear that dick measuring stories such as these carry a great deal of influence.

One like me requires the breakiest throughs

Yea, I have been watching this thread closely hoping that Bass will post back soon. I can agree to some extent with all of you guys. I do think that the immediate response was a little harsh and may have rushed the original poster away. Aside from the debate over the large dose, the posters ideas were great and right up the same ally as to what me and a few close friends have discussed recently. Anyhow, hopefully we see this turn into more of a discussion, rather than just venting on the fella without getting a chance to understand him more clearly.

OK. My good friend The Traveler asked me to speak to everyone about mega doses so I‘m taking out the time to write the following testament, which will include both benefits and dangers or consequences of taking such large doses. The Traveler has known me for over 4 years now and the support and advice The Traveler gave me early on with my experimentation was absolutely priceless to my spiritual development and the development of the relationship that I have with The Spice so I feel this is the least I can do.

If you want to skip strait to the advice section about massive doses then you can go down to the bold print and start reading from there but if you are curious or if you are considering any large or mega doses then I encourage you to read this in full.


Let me start at the beginning. In February of ’08 I began a relationship with DMT that would last to this day and will probably continue until the day I die. Even from the start I took doses larger than what was recommended. Typically it is recommended to start at about 20mg. In general, I would have to agree. MOST PEOPLE SHOULD NOT DO MORE THAN 20mg THE FIRST TIME. But I’m not most people and I didn’t heed that advice. You can read about it here:

Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:13:14 PM
65 milligrams for the very first time smoking DMT... HOLY SHIT!!!

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=1042

After that experience I had a few more experiences that were similar and I began to feel more comfortable in hyperspace. I had also read quite a bit about the harmala freebase and fumahuasca and pharmahuasca. So I then decided to try fumahuasca. After some self education and an extraction process I then had the following experience:

Posted : Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:43:04 PM
A Bizarre First: Freebase Harmaloids + Spice = ANGELIC POSSESSION

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=1143

If you have actually taken the time to read that post you will notice how completely bizarre the experience ended. Since then, I have had many trips into hyperspace that make both of these experiences seem almost normal. I’ll speak more about that later.

Over the next few months my doses seemed to get larger and larger. Obviously there was a certain amount of resistance and tolerance that built up but given the right time between dosing the resistance diminishes. Eventually, I found that regardless of taking time enough between doses to eliminate tolerance build up I still did larger than normal doses. I became curious and I posted the following:

Posted : Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:51:27 PM
Does anyone else do this Fume-a-huasca? 800mg+ DMT + 200mg+ Freebase Harmaloid

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=2105

Art, you posted:


Now, try to understand that, first of all, there is no comparison. When it comes to dosing DMT, it is a very personal thing and it is DIFFERENT FOR EVERY INDIVIDUAL. While you might prefer 20-35mg I have known more than a couple of people who prefer 100-150mg and a very large number of people who enjoy 50-70mg. When I initially posted this in 2008, it was because I wanted to know if this was normal. I CERTAINLY WAS NOT BOASTING and I still do not boast. I continued to do mega doses and they still got larger. Eventually, still in search of some reassurance of normalcy, I posted the following:

Posted : Sunday, October 25, 2009 10:16:41 AM
Am I A Psychedelic Hyperspace Anomaly?

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=7335

gibran2, you posted:

I would say that although there is certainly some waste, and even more when you are new, especially when new to mega doses, it does not hold consistent. I have used a vaporizer, which is without a doubt the most efficient way to smoke the freebase, and it does not keep me from doing mega doses in excess of 2 grams. If anything, it makes it easier.

(Additionally, I will just add that one of the most common replies that I have heard beyond difficulty of belief is “your DMT must not be very pure”. Just to bring that to attention, I can assure you that the quality is of the utmost purest extraction. I have even gone as far as to discuss my process of extraction of both DMT and harmaloid freebase with a family member who is a professional chemist for a large corporation that I will only say got purchased by an Indian company. Basically, after the discussion, he stated that the only way someone could really hope to pull a more pure and clean DMT extraction is if you do it in a controlled laboratory environment, and even then, the gains would not be drastic. As for the harmaloid extract, it could be made quite a bit more pure in the proper laboratory, but for what I do it should be fine. Additionally, I will add that I have given some of my batches away and it is quite pure and potent and still nobody that I have given it to would do more than 40mg.)

Art, you also posted:


While I will address some of the dangers shortly, I must first say that, of this, I do not lie. There is no reason to lie about it. The Traveler, among some others, seemed to understand back then that lying about such a thing would defeat the purpose. I assure you, THERE IS NO REASON FOR ME TO LIE OR BOAST about the doses that I take, especially when I spent so much time trying to find out if it was normal or not. Granted, after spending more than a year trying to find someone else who does mega doses to the extreme that I do I realized that I am far beyond normal.

You see, it seems that I suffer from some kind of “condition”. I didn’t realize it until quite some time later, but it was evident from the very first time I tried DMT. When I smoke DMT and reach a ‘breakthrough’, my mind and spirit separate from my body and my body keeps on doing what ever it was doing when my mind separated from it. Basically, while my mind is off in hyperspace, my physical body just keeps on smoking. I didn’t realize this at first because once I break through the only experience that I am aware of is out of body.

For the longest time I measured everything but some experience I no longer feel the need to measure primarily because I’m not afraid of taking too much. Almost ritualistically, when I smoke I first take all my clothes off because they always make me feel extremely constricted and confined. I have discovered that if I fail to remove my clothing then I feel very uncomfortable and will take them off while in hyperspace and sometimes weird things happen to them. The next thing I do is start some music on auto-repeat. It’s usually Mike Oldfield and Enigma but what ever it is it is pleasant positive music. Trust me, heavy metal is a bad idea on mega doses. After that, I decide how much DMT to limit myself to and I dump a gram or two or three of DMT into my pyrex dish along with a gram or so of harmaloid freebase. I used to separate it all out into 75-100mg piles but I haven’t done that for a long time. Consistently, when I do this I smoke about 50-100mg of harmaloid and immediately begin smoking the DMT. When I do the harmaloid first it slows down the onset of the breakthrough and usually gives me 5 minutes or so before I break through. This allows me to continuously smoke 100mg hits. Doing it this way allows me to smoke at least 300 or 400 mg of DMT right away before I completely break through and no longer have control over my body. After I break through my mind separates from my body and I don’t even think about smoking more. But, consistently, at the end of the night when I finally come back to reality, the entire amount is gone.

So I got curious. I decided to set up a camera and record myself while I was doing the Spice. Sure enough, what ever I put in my pyrex dish, I smoked. The video showed that after my break through I would continue to smoke. Then I would refill the bowl and smoke some more. I kept doing it until all of the DMT was gone and then I would keep doing it even after the DMT was gone. I would go through the motions of filling the bowl and smoking it even if there wasn’t anything left to smoke. In between some of the bowls, sometimes my body goes into writhing “convulsions”. Not quite like an epileptic fit, but if there were onlookers they might think that I was having an epileptic seizure. It is more like what has been sometimes witnessed at some extreme religious revivals where people end up on the floor “filled with the holy spirit” writhing and shaking on the floor. There were tears rolling from my eyes but the grandest smile on my face. My eyes were wide open the whole time usually fixed up towards the ceiling and I was babbling and “talking in tongues”.

The third and last time I filmed myself I wanted to see how much I would go through and I measured 4 grams of pure white into my pyrex dish. I didn’t really expect to finish it, but, sure enough, I finished it in an 8 hour sitting. Now one thing that I have learned though, is that if I don't use a really good vaporizer then there is quite the coating left in the pipe at the end of the night and if I don’t start with a completely clean pipe it will get to a point that the melted DMT harmaloid mixture will go through and either clog the pipe or if it is hot enough it will flow until it hits the lips and it tastes nasty. In fact, it tastes nasty enough that a few times it has coated the entire inside of my mouth and drew me out of my trip. It also makes me throw up if it goes to the stomach.

Now keep in mind that, after the initial breakthrough, my mind separates from my body and I do not have any significant recollection of further smoking. Occasionally, I do have some realization of smoking but it is minimal but not significant. I also have some realization of my body writhing and shaking and vibrating but it is absolutely beautiful and wonderful; not scary like some might think. In fact, every time I smoke, I hope to get to that writhing point because it is in that state which I have the most beautiful and wonderful experiences.



While every experience is different there are some things that are similar among my experiences with mega doses. The experience is always very spiritually mind struck. Visual, auditory, tactile, and mental senses combine in such a way that there are no words that could ever describe it efficiently. Time becomes irrelevant. A second becomes a year. An hour becomes a century. In a short time I experience a millennium and then when it is all done an eon passes within a second.

It doesn’t matter if my eyes are open or closed because my eyes are gone. My body is gone. I can taste the sound of the music and hear the colors of the rainbow. I can feel the thoughts of whispers that ripple across the galaxies and I see the taste of ambrosia. Only “I” exist and I exist everywhere and everywhen. I both witness and experience the creation of the universe. I witness the birth of life and every living creature. I hold for a moment every newborn to ever exist. I inhale every spore and when I exhale I spread the spores across the galaxies and they flourish into life. I am the universe and I am the creation of the universe. I am everything and I am nothing. I hold within my heart all that is pure and good. The emotional joy overwhelms my entire soul and spirit and my eyes pour like waterfalls. I fly with angels and talk to gods, not with wings or voice, but only with thought and desire, wish and whim. I bask in the light of heaven and make love with angels. Orgasm resonates through my entire body consuming every inch of my flesh vibrating to the core of my bones sustained in an endless climax. I spend an eternity in heaven and heaven spends an eternity in me.

I have also experienced the other end of the spectrum. It was only one time and I don’t think I ever really posted it but when it was over I wrote the following:

“For as many times as I have seen the face of evil, I have seen the same of death and so too have I seen my own portrait. Another visage in the mirror, but those were not my eyes. And as I spoke so, too, did he. But with echoing voice his lips neither moved nor twitched. The horrid cries of torture resonated from within. But within what, I did not know. For such pain filled screams of terror bore tones of which were far beyond the physical limitations of man, beast, or machine. And as I sat there in a cold dark room I stared at the wall while shadows climbed upon it. With a sigh of disbelief and a flicker of a candle, the shadows were no more. But what, pray tell, was that which was before me then? I saw demons dancing on the wall. I heard dead men digging from under the floor. I smelled the rotting flesh of a murdered corpse. I felt the cold hand upon my shoulder and the frigid blade piercing my heart. My soul was flowing, not unlike the blood from my throat. The spirits of my past had returned to haunt me forever more. I became death incarnate and death overcame me. I witnessed the burning of a billion newborns impaled upon the spears of injustice. I felt the hatred of every putrid heart that has ever beaten. I was filled with the fear of every child as the monsters crawled out from beneath their beds. It was but a single moment in time yet I experienced an eternity in hell. Madness took hold and sanity was lost.

Only by the grace of The Spice was I pulled out of hell. The hand of an angel reached down and lifted me up. My mind was still lost and insanity was my state of mind. But then the angel kissed me upon the forehead and laid me down upon the bed. Caressing my hair, the angel showed me again the wonders of life and they were so much more beautiful than ever have they been before. The angel told me that only by experiencing hell can one truly appreciate heaven.”



Ok, so now for what everyone should know before considering mega doses of DMT. First of all, mega doses are not for everyone. In fact they are not for most people. It is generally better and safer to start small and then, only if you are completely comfortable, work your way up. Do not just jump up to a mega dose right away. Also keep in mind that a tolerance builds up the more often you do it, so what might not be too much today, might be more than you can handle if you go clean for a month or two and don’t do anything.

In general, the most important thing to keep in mind when doing The Spice is your set and setting. This is 10,000 times more important when doing mega doses.

First of all, your mind set is of the utmost importance. If there is even the slightest apprehension, then you might want to reconsider. Now, I can tell you that you absolutely cannot physically die from an overdose from smoking DMT, which is true, but you also must truly believe it as well. If you have even the slightest concern that you might be able to die from an overdose, then you might be in for a very uncomfortable trip because you will inevitably think that you did overdose. Although there are no cases that have been substantiated, theoretically you could potentially get so scared that you have a heart attack. There was supposed to have been one case of a schizophrenic woman that was injected with DMT that this happened to but when doing further research into it there were no medical records that suggested anyone ever died. There were only a few myths and urban legends. “A nurse who knew a nurse who worked for a doctor that led some of the studies back in the 80’s & 90’s who had a patient.”

Additionally, if you are experiencing difficulties in life, keep in mind that those problems and difficulties might be amplified greatly. If you are having difficulties with your partner, or if there has been a recent death in the family, I would probably recommend against doing mega doses. Keep in mind that once you begin your trip, you will have no choice but to ride it out. Also keep in mind that when you break through, your perception of time becomes so drastically altered that you may find yourself experiencing hell for what may seem to be years, decades, or even an eternity. This holds true to some degree even at normal or low doses, but at mega doses it can be amplified by the thousands.

I did do a mega dose shortly after my uncle died and it was the saddest experience that I have ever had in my life. But at the same time, it was also the most refreshing because it did allow me to quickly come to terms with it and recover from my uncles’ death. Even though it helped me through it, you need to understand that The Spice only brings out what your mind already knows and wants to do. In my case, I wanted to heal. If you subconsciously blame yourself, then that might make things very difficult. I am of the opinion that it will actually help you get beyond the situation but you have to want it to. I often say that The Spice will allow you to fly with the angels and talk to God, but sometimes, you might not like what God has to say to you. So keep that in mind.

Also, keep in mind that if you are not mentally and spiritually healthy and you experience true hell, there is the potential that you may be traumatized by the experience. There is that possibility that you could suffer from post traumatic stress syndrome. Again, it really relies on your personal mind set.

The other thing to make sure of is that you have a good setting. Your surroundings can change your mind set very quickly. If your setting becomes stressful then it will be reflected in your trip. If people are fighting around you or there is tension among people around and they argue it will affect your trip. Even if you are in your own room alone and there are a few people downstairs fighting you will hear it and your concern will be amplified. If there are sirens going off you could easily go into a panic. There have been a couple times that my dog started barking because she saw someone outside and that set my trip into a bad direction.

I recommend that you ALWAYS play music because the mood of the music will help guide your mood and keep you in a specific mindset. NEVER play music that is aggressive such as metal or hard rap. Don’t play music that is sad. Generally, I would recommend playing music that has very little to no words or playing Earthly World Music.

Following are some Albums that I recommend:

Mike Oldfield - The Songs Of Distant Earth
Mike Oldfield - Guitars
Mike Oldfield - Voyager
Enigma - A Posteriori
Enigma - M C M X a. D
Enigma - Voyageur
Mystica - Second Dive
Mystica - Age of Innocence
Satyricon - Late Nights and Early Mournings
Lesiëm - Mystic. Spirit. Voices.
Lesiëm - Illumination
Mythos - Iridescence
Mythos - Purity
Mythos - Eternity

And if you would like a really “Trippy” experience I recommend:

Autechre - Quaristice
Psykovsky - Da Budet
Psykovsky - Debut
Psykovsky - Tanetsveta


I realize this has become an extremely long post and for that I apologize. I will just conclude this by say this:

If you are going to do any substances in any amount do so intelligently. Make yourself an expert and research and educate yourself about them. Don’t take any one single persons word on it. Do further research and find out as much as you possibly can before experimenting. Then when you do experiment, start small and work your way up to a comfortable amount. Don’t worry about what is a big amount or the best amount. Just make sure what ever amount you do that it is safe and also that you are aware of the possible repercussions that may result. Make sure that you are confident and comfortable with any consequences that might arise. And finally, keep in mind, there is no sure thing. There is never a guarantee that you will always have a good experience. I have had a few uncomfortable experiences and even a terrorizing experience, but I continue because the vast majority of the experiences I have are absolutely heavenly and even what most would call a “bad” trip I would not. Even after spending eternity in hell, I found that it was what I needed spiritually at the time.

Good luck and may the light shine.

The Spice must flow.

I probably had over a hundred voyages under my belt and I was discussing this exact topic with a close friend, who is also an experienced psychonaut. I told him that I never saw entities at all, ever. He helped me break down what happened to me during my voyages and what I learned is, I did, almost always have entity contact and communication.

I was always looking for these elves to show up or ? I always had a different idea of what I thought an entity was or should be.

The entities I see look like sock puppets. lol, yep, sock puppets. They are normally very dark purple with crimson hi-lites. No eyes or other features. They never communicated with words. Thats what I always expected, verbal communication.

Once my friend pointed out to me that the sock puppets were probably entities, I started to focus more on them, when I did, I realized that their motion was their language. I paid attention and the communication began. Complex detailed communication.

Is there a possibility that, in the overload that is hyperspace, you are missing the messangers as well as the message?

Can I ask why? You say your purpose is not to boast, but I want to ask how did you know you were not ‘most people’ even before having experienced the ride?

Excuse my incredulity buddy but I’m having difficulty processing some of the things I have read here, I am really finding it hard to understand why you need to take this much. It’s not merely the ‘mega’ doses but the act of re-dosing and prolonging the experience again, and again, for so long and without really doing so conciously!

I don’t understand why you’re advertising the 'mega dose' as a viable option, or new path you’ve discovered, that other people can maybe discover too! It’s like saying for those of you, to whom hyperspace just isn’t enough, follow my 12 step plan, to keep on smoking even when basically unconscious! I guess each to his own, but to my mind hyperspace is a place, it doesent require a booster, and access becomes easier (less) with time not more difficult(more).

It really seems tantamount to the behavior of a crack head or something, and whilst I don’t want to be judgmental here, it just all seems so wrong, and on so many levels buddy. Whilst you might not die at the hands of DMT you do seem destined for some kind of overdose sooner or later. Surely this is at best a classic example of compulsive or addictive behaviour?

Be careful anyway man, you might end up getting rope a doped!

Wolf

There are some who see entities and some who don't. There are some who see entities at first and then never see them again. There seem to be much more who don't encounter entities at first, but do later on, and others like myself who encounter them intermittently. I think one's beliefs have incredibly little to do with whether or not there is entity encounter. Part of DMT's biggest tool in the toolbox if one could call this a tool is to shatter expectations. Part of what "shattering expectations" implies is that one may have a certain set of beliefs which DMT can sporadically turn around at the drop of the dime and show you that's not the way it is/has to be.

Was I ignorant of the concept of the godhead? No. Did I have any slight clue as to what it was though? No. Did I believe God exists? No. Did I think I would encounter it? No...and yet I did - and it was nothing like what I expected. I barely understood what was going on while it was happening, much less suggest it to myself. It was the single most transformative experience of my life, and not because it reaffirmed the beliefs that I already had, but because it completely shattered them through demonstration allowing me to see the world through new eyes. I've had two experiences now where I've seen something or received certain information that has nothing to do with beliefs or memories, and yet were retrospectively validated. I encountered the Egyptian Bennu Bird (which I didn't know existed up until that point in time) that was contextually significant beyond my capacity to know at the time as well as living out a vivid description of posthumous soul purification as described perfectly by Hebrew mystics, except that I had my experience about 9 months before reading about it. On the surface, it probably doesn't sound too convincing, but if you'd like to read more into the individual accounts, you can find them here and here

The Strassman study, where subjects were dosed with 0.4mg/kg, revealed that about 5% of subjects (can’t remember the exact percentage) didn’t respond to that dose at all.

It’s quite possible that some people are less sensitive to DMT, and that some are completely unaffected by it, even at extremely high doses.

I don’t doubt that some people need very high doses to achieve effects, but I doubt very much that a person of average sensitivity will “break through the breakthrough” at unusually high doses. Beyond a certain dose, there are diminishing returns.

Some personal observations regarding dosing:

Here’s what happened to me the one time I took a “higher than average” dose: As I was inhaling, I glanced at the clock (as I usually do). I finished inhaling the dose and closed my eyes. I immediately opened my eyes and looked at the clock, only to see that about 12 minutes had passed.

My deepest, most intense experiences were not my highest-dose experience. In fact, these types of experience almost always catch me off guard, because they are totally unexpected given the dose consumed. Beyond a certain minimum dose, depth of experience no longer correlates with size of dose.

EZ4U2Shoot - Clearly Traveler feels differently about this (and you) than I do. I hate that you are being indulged and allowed to expound upon your "mega dose" ideas here.

In the first place, I just don't believe you. I'm sorry, but for whatever reason, I think you are embellishing in an attempt to set yourself apart. This is nothing new and it's not such a mystery. It's what insecure drug users do. You're clearly invested in the concept that you are some kind of physiological anomaly and a deeper traveler of psychedelic realms than anyone else anywhere.

In the second place, embellished or not, wolf8312 is exactly right that this is crack head behavior. What you are describing (while not actually plausible) is extremely egregious abuse, and whether or not it's even true is really beside the point. You're trying to legitimize grotesque and dangerous drug abuse. You're trying to romanticize it as something it's not and yourself as boldly going where others dare not go.

I call bullshit. I'm sorry, Traveler, but this is bad mojo right here.

25 doses of DMT taken at once, may kill you.

I´ve had a few accidents where i accidentally took a little too much and in my experience, a little too much can be waaay too much already.

I think that if you take 25 doses at once, you may very well die, you may bite your tongue off without even knowing it or you may get permanent brain damage or get into a coma for a few days....who knows?

It´s naive to think that something that normally is quite harmless, is still harmless when amplified by 25. I think that taking 25 aspirins at once could kill or injure you, the amount of caffein in 25 cup´s of coffee taken at once could kill you, the amount of salt in 25 bags of crisps could kill you and the amount of nicotin in 25 cigarettes taken at once could also kill you.

And DMT is a very powerfull drug that works on the brain.

why dont you guys just ingest DMT or drink ayahausca? Smoking 2g of DMT spread out,even in huge doses for a longer experience just seems pointless and silly. Why not just do the real thing if that is what you want and drink ayahuasca or take pharma? Far deeper than a 5 minutes blast IMO and you can take a very large dose that will last for hours without wasting near as much DMT as if you just smoked 2 grams over a few hours.

Maybe it is just me but I just dont get why people do this? If you want a short experience..or a few short blasts etc than sure smoke it..but if you want to go really deep for longer periods and gain more insight oral is by far the best way to go.

Seems like trying to smoke 2g in a night is just such a damn waste of rootbark that costs alot to ship all around the planet to people fortunate enough to have it.

Absolutely you may ask why I didn’t heed that advice. In fact, if you read that post 65 milligrams for the very first time smoking DMT... HOLY SHIT!!! I actually explained it in there as well. The reason was simple, I was confident that I would not die, I wanted to make sure that I had a dose large enough to break through, and I wanted to gauge the potency and intensity of the trip so that when my lady tried it I wouldn’t give her so much that it scared the hell out of her. Now keep in mind I had never tried it before then so I really didn’t know how intense it would be. Needless to say, my lady dosed at 20mg and I would never give her a larger dose. And in fact, most people in general, I would recommend not doing any at all. But for most of those people who I would see try The Spice, I wouldn’t recommend more than 35mg. In point of fact, in the last 4 years, I’ve known only two people that I would suggest a 65mg dose for their first time.

As for knowing that I’m “not most people”, well, at the time when I took that first dose, I did not. In fact, even after I learned that I find a comfortable level with doses beyond any other I still believed that I could not be the only one. I spent at least 2 years, off and on, looking for someone else who does. After a while of searching I just had to accept that this obviously is not normal Hence, “I’m not most people”. Even still, in 4 years of keeping an eye out and searching, I have only heard of 2 other people (including the one that started this thread) that pushes the 1 gram line. Besides myself, I have never heard of anyone enjoying 3 grams, but I am still confident that they exist.

As for boasting, please try to understand that it is not boasting to inquire to find out if anyone else does this or to reply to someone when I finally find someone who does. I have been a member of the Nexus for over 4 years now and I have consistently kept up with the forums. Even though I haven’t posted anything in a very long time I have always checked it a few times every week. It is rare that I actually take the time to post anything. If my intentions were to boast then wouldn’t you think that I would probably have more posts that seemed boastful?



As for “the need to take large doses”, there is no need. Nobody “needs” to take any kind of dose at all. It isn’t a matter of need. DMT dosing is a personal thing and it is different for every individual. For me, it is extremely personal and extremely spiritual. I NEVER suggest that anyone take a dose larger than what you are comfortable with. What I do suggest is that you find your comfort level. Many people like to learn and test their limits. For those people I always suggest that they find their comfort level first and then from their take small steps forward. Tip toe up to the line, but be careful not to cross it or you might regret it and keep in mind that if you are running up to that line you might find it difficult to stop before you cross it.

If you like bumper cars but do not like roller coasters, then ride the bumper cars. I will think no less of anyone who does. Bumper cars can be fun. If you enjoy the thrill of the roller coaster but don’t want to strap yourself to a rocket, then by all means, get on that roller coaster and have the time of your life. If you prefer the rocket then you might want to be an astronaut. As for myself, I have ridden so many roller coasters that riding them just feels like wind in my hair. Unfortunately, I don’t get the thrill out of them that I got when I was a kid because I am as comfortable riding a roller coast as most people are when riding in a car at 30mph. I enjoy strapping to a comet and exploring the universe.



As for “advertising the mega dose”, I assure you, that is not my intent. The ONLY reason I wrote the second post is because my friend asked me to add a bit of a warning regarding the dangers of mega dosing. Now try to understand that it is not enough to simply say WARNING: THIS IS NOT FOR EVERYONE. I recognize that anyone who actually considers larger doses (whatever that may be because what is large for one may not be for another) should be as educated about it as possible. If you simply say, “Don’t do this” and you don’t give reasons why then this will often entice the foolish to do it anyway. Likewise, if you say “I’ve done this so you should not do this and this is why” then the foolish will still do it because they are foolish. So the best thing to do is simply give ALL the information and let them make the decision for themselves. An educated decision to do something that is generally considered foolish usually has better results than a foolish decision to do anything that is generally considered wise or foolish.



I can certainly understand your feeling that way. It does seem excessive from most perspectives. However, I can assure you that it has nothing to do with doing DMT in a crack head sort of way. Dosing and The Spice is a personal thing.

A lot of people do DMT for recreational purposes. I do not. For me, The Spice is used strictly for spiritual exploration. I went through a period in which I would Spice once a week but I have found that once a month is ideal with the occasional twice a month. It seems for me, I have found that I get much more out of it if I just reserve an entire day for a truly intense and extreme spiritual experience and then ponder on it for a month.

However, I decided to take a break to clean everything out and I haven’t had any Spice at all in almost 9 months. This was a personal choice and I don’t believe a crack head could make that kind of choice. The reason that I chose to take this time off is because I recognize that my tolerance developed beyond the roof. I hope to determine just how much of it was tolerance and how much was actually indulgence. Who knows, when I do it again, it is very possible that 65mg blows me away. Well, maybe not that, because I don’t smoke strait Spice anymore. I plan on pharmahuasca (200mg DMT with 30mg harmaloid) coupled with smoke but I will see how much I go through when I get there. Like I said, I want to find out how much the tolerance factor was playing a part.

I would finally add that the reason this is not compulsive or addictive behavior is because I do not do it as such. Like I said, it is for spiritual exploration. It is not compulsive because it is planned out specifically. There is no room for compulsion because I have to reserve a day for it. I decide beforehand how much I will allow myself to have and when it is gone then I am done. I don’t go getting into the rest of the stash. Everything is in my pyrex dish and that is where I stop. It is not addictive behavior either. My usual choice is once a month with an occasional twice a month. Right now, it has been almost 9 months since I have done any Spice. This surely cannot be deemed as addictive behavior. I have one addiction. I smoke tobacco. I don’t even smoke pot. I’m not saying that I haven’t smoked pot, certainly, when I was younger I did my share but I don’t anymore. On occasion I might have a beer or a glass of wine but I haven’t been drunk in so many years that I don’t recall when the last time was. I have tried a lot of things but there are only two that I see any reason to do more often and those are DMT and mescaline. I’ve “tried” a lot of different things but I choose not to do them. I have tried opium, heroine, meth, coke (powder and freebased), LSD, amanita muscaria, psilocybin, and quite a few others. But DMT is the only one that I consider doing regularly and mescaline is the only other one that I wouldn’t be against doing a time or two or three per year. As for anything other than DMT and mescaline, no thank you. I neither need it nor do I want it. Sure, I’ve tried them, but some of those are truly dangerous and addictive. Hell, I’m already addicted to tobacco; I sure don’t need another addiction.

To conclude this I will say again that dosing is individual and personal. Post people are just not physically capable of anything more than 60-70mg of DMT simply because it annihilates the coordination and ability to hold a pipe or lighter. 97% of people fall within the 10-90mg range. 3% fall outside of the 10-90mg range. Included within that 3% are those that are affected by 1mg, those that can do grams, and even those that DMT has absolutely no affect what so ever. I have only met one person that, no matter what the dose, the DMT had absolutely no effect on him. The poor fellow

Here’s something I’m curious about regarding mega-dosers: How do you manage to inhale all that vapor?

25-30mg of DMT, when properly vaporized, produces a dense, thick lungful of vapor. I doubt very much that more than about 50mg could be inhaled in a single breath. If that’s the case, it would take at least 20 monstrously large hits of dense vapor to inhale 1g of DMT.

So what about the time? A single inhalation takes maybe 20 seconds. Hold for another 20 seconds. Exhale for a few more seconds, then take another 13 seconds or so to get a breath or two of fresh air. For repeated hits, each hit would take about 1 minute. 20 to 30 hits, if taken with intense determination, would take between 20 and 30 minutes to do. Even if one is inhaling inert vapor, this would be very difficult to do.

Also, assuming that one is completely insensitive to DMT and isn’t far out in hyperspace after the first inhalation or two, the effects of early doses would already be waning by the time you take the final doses 20 – 30 minutes later.

The whole thing seems very implausible.

Implausible indeed.