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Poll Question : Do you encrypt sensitive information (e.g. extract
Choice Votes Statistics
Yes, I use full hard drive encryption. 2 16 %
Yes, I encrypt certain files. 1 8 %
No. I know I should but I'm too lazy. 2 16 %
No. I know I should but I don't know how. 5 41 %
No. I feel no reason to encrypt this kind of infor 2 16 %
What's encryption? 0 0 %


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a1pha
#1 Posted : 2/24/2012 9:50:18 PM


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Appeals court: Fifth Amendment protections can apply to encrypted hard drives
24-Feb-2012

Two rulings this week helped to clarify the circumstances under which a defendant can be compelled to reveal
the contents of an encrypted hard drive. On Wednesday, the Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals let stand a
judge's ruling in a Colorado case that the defendant in a mortgage fraud case could be compelled to produce
the contents of her encrypted laptop. But on Thursday, the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals overturned a
Florida contempt of court charge against a suspect in a child pornography case who refused to decrypt the
encrypted contents of several hard drives.

While the two rulings reach opposite results, they don't necessarily contradict each other. The results turned
on how much the government knew about the contents of the encrypted drives. In previous cases, the courts
have held that when the government already knows of the existence of specific incriminating files, compelling
a suspect to produce them does not violate the Fifth Amendment's rule against self-incrimination. On the other
hand, if the government merely suspects that an encrypted hard drive contains some incriminating
documents, but lacks independent evidence for the existence of specific documents, then the owner of the
hard drive is entitled to invoke the Fifth Amendment.

For example, in 2006, a border guard in Vermont examined the contents of a traveler's laptop and found
several files that appeared to be child pornography. But when the laptop was closed, the portion of the hard
drive containing these files was automatically encrypted, and the government sought to compel the suspect
to decrypt the files again. The court ruled that because a government agent had already seen specific incriminating
files, compelling the suspect to produce those same files did not violate the Fifth Amendment's
privilege against self-incrimination.

In the Colorado case, the police had intercepted a telephone conversation in which the defendant, Ramona
Fricosu, acknowledged her ownership of the laptop and alluded to the existence of incriminating documents in
the encrypted portions of the hard drive. The government successfully argued that this precluded her from
claiming Fifth Amendment protection, since she had already acknowledged the existence of incriminating
documents in the case. The Tenth Circuit let that decision stand on Wednesday, though it may consider the
issue again later in the process.

In the Florida case, on the other hand, the government lacked any specific evidence about the contents of the
encrypted hard drives. A forensic expert acknowledged it was theoretically possible that the drives, which
were encrypted using TrueCrypt, could be completely empty. Hence, forcing the suspect to decrypt the drive
would be forcing him to reveal whether any relevant documents exist, which would be inherently incriminating.

The government tried to get around this problem by offering the suspect, identified in the court filings only as
John Doe, immunity in exchange for producing the documents. However, the immunity the government
offered was extremely limited: the government promised not to use the fact that he was able to produce the
documents against him, but it reserved the rights to use the contents of the documents against him.

But Doe still refused to decrypt the drives, arguing that he would still be incriminating himself if he helped
produce incriminating documents.

"Reasonable particularity"

In its Thursday ruling, the Eleventh Circuit agreed. It pointed to a 2000 Supreme Court case that arose out of
the Whitewater investigation. In that case, a Bill Clinton associate named Webster Hubbell was compelled to
produce incriminating documents after being granted limited immunity by the government. When the
government used evidence from those documents against him, Hubbell appealed, arguing that the immunity
he had been granted should have extended to the contents of the documents, not merely to the fact that he
had been able to produce them.

The Supreme Court agreed, holding that the government could only compel a suspect to produce documents
when it can describe those documents with "reasonable particularity." The government only knew that Hubbell
was likely to have relevant tax and business records, it couldn't identify the specific documents it was
seeking. And so the Supreme Court held that the government was barred from using the contents of those
documents as evidence against him.

The Eleventh Circuit argued that exactly the same reasoning applies to an encrypted hard drive. When the
government lacks any specific knowledge about an encrypted hard drive's contents—or, indeed, whether the
encrypted drive contains any files at all—then compelling a suspect to produce incriminating documents
stored on that hard drive violates the Fifth Amendment's protection against self-incrimination.

As for Fricosu, if she still refuses to decrypt the contents of her hard drive, or claims she has forgotten the
hard drive's password, the judge will have the option to hold her in contempt. If he does so, this could lead to
another round of appeals in which she could cite the Eleventh Circuit decision as a precedent. However, that
decision may not be sufficient to save her, because the government has more specific evidence that the
encrypted drive in her case contains incriminating documents.

http://arstechnica.com/t...ncrypted-hard-drives.ars
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jbark
#2 Posted : 2/24/2012 9:56:35 PM

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Fascinating. Never would have thought of the 5th! I voted that I don't feel the need to encrypt but was torn between this and "know I should but don't know how". I don't quite live under the same umbrella of fear as my American friends to the south, but I am also not naive. (OK, a little given my actual answer...Smile )

The law is a sticky and wonderful and slippery and frightening thing.

JBArk

EDIT: I love being the first to vote, 'cause for at least a few moments, everyone is in 100% agreement with me!
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DidMyTest
#3 Posted : 2/24/2012 10:01:56 PM

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Who would be so stupid to encrypt his harddrive when it incriminates you. They can't put you into jail because you have forgotten your password Very happy .
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a1pha
#4 Posted : 2/25/2012 5:41:23 PM


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DidMyTest wrote:
Who would be so stupid to encrypt his harddrive when it incriminates you.

My understanding of the ruling is that a US court cannot force you to reveal your encryption key if the information on the hard drive might incriminate you (protection of self-incrimination under the 5th amendment) AND there is no prior knowledge of the contents on the drive. This is important because there's been a grey area whether or not a defendant can be held in contempt for not giving up the encryption key.

Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution wrote:
; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself,
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