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hixidom
#1 Posted : 2/7/2012 12:11:51 AM
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I had done 4-aco-dmt in moderate amounts a while back, but I took a break from psychedelics altogether until I did 4-aco-dmt again yesterday. I wanted an extremely intense trip to put me directly in that ontological realisation that I've had many times before and yet still find so hard to fully grasp when I'm not in an altered state. I've used psychedelics in comparatively light doses several times over the past few months, but those instances only made me realise that my threshold for "face-melting" has increased since I started using psychedelic drugs a few years ago.

Anyways, I had a tray of 4-aco-dmt residue that's been sitting in my bathroom for over a month now. I was putting the substance on blotters when I spilled quite a bit. I was able to salvage the amount that had spilled but had no way of knowing how much 4-aco-dmt it actually was (that's why I waited so long before finally deciding to use it). I put a shot-glass worth of warm water in the tray and swirled it around to dissolve all of the powder residue. After pouring back into the glass, I had a shot of opaque black liquid. It looked ominous, like poison, but I knew it would bring the experience I needed.

The substance kicked in quickly, giving me maybe 15 minutes to throw together a youtube playlist of trance music. My plan was to take a quick shower, then spend the day listening to music while laying in bed. It was hard to focus in the shower; I kept forgetting which part of my body I had just washed, so it took longer than usual. Plus the water felt amazing and even the sound of the water was entrancing. Not to mention that your naked body always looks beast-like when tripping (it does for me, at least).

By the time I got in bed, I was starting to fall into oblivion. The trip was incredibly similar to smoked DMT! I found myself moving through portals that took me to bizarre dimensions of reality, hyperspace, and identity. I was bombarded by hyper-real entities and insights. I eventually found myself in an omniscient state that transcended the concepts of time and space. I experienced life through the bodies of friends, family, movie characters, and prehistoric animals. I died and was reborn a hundred times. I was the Ouroboros, cannibalizing my own being; riding the fine line between existence and nonexistence. At one point, I realised that I finally understood the concept of Opti. On the few occasions that I came back to my physical body, I found myself either crying, drooling, or both.

I could go on, but what's the point. I'm sure most of you have been there/done that.

When I finally came to, more than 5 hours had passed. The come-down wasn't very pleasant. To come back to this meek mind and body after experiencing such a thing was depressing to say the least. I felt old and grey and weak in spirit. My eyes and ears were over sensitive, and any visual or auditory simulation was painful. This sensitivity faded over the next 5 hours but was replaced by a splitting headache that wouldn't let me sleep. In retrospect, I think I was just very dehydrated.

Anyways, I've never done mushrooms, so I don't know how that experience compares. To be honest, I've always considered mushrooms to be far too expensive, so I'll probably never know. Despite the headache afterwards, this is definitely an experience that I want to repeat. In fact, I'd like all of my psychedelic experiences to be this intense from now on, and I'd also like to cut back on how often I engage in psychedelic experience. An experience like this 4-6 times per year would be idea, I think.
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Bodhisattva
#2 Posted : 2/20/2012 2:51:27 AM
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Thanks for the report man, that sounds very intense and worth attempting. Too bad I can't source anything like that, since it's illegal, then again growing mushrooms is pretty easy. I hear that the ACO is even better than the mushies, due to no load/anxiety... but there is something "rite of passage" like that comes with growing them I suppose.

In any case, thanks for the report!
 
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#3 Posted : 2/20/2012 4:55:12 AM

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Ehm...

Grow some mushrooms?

That kind of sounds awful to me.

I really wouldn't recommend dosing unknown quantity's of little known chemicals in such a manner.

Glad you're ok though. Smile
 
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#4 Posted : 2/20/2012 7:32:21 PM

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fact of the matter yeah man, 4-aco is very, very intense.
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#5 Posted : 2/21/2012 1:06:53 AM
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Bodhisattva, I agree that it is something of a rite of passage. I'd compare it to extracting your own DMT, but I think that growing mushrooms is probably much harder.

Soulfood, I wouldn't recommend it either. I wouldn't have done it if I thought there was over 100mg of 4-Aco-DMT in the glass, and I definitely wouldn't have done the same thing with a more overdose-prone drug like 25I. The way I saw it, the risk I was taking was purely psychological. I don't like putting my body at risk but, for some reason, I do enjoy pulverizing my mind.
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#6 Posted : 2/21/2012 4:02:48 AM

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I'm confused as to why you would put aco on blotter. its not active at sub to 1 mg doses. isn't it active at 10+ I don't see how that would work and if it did they must of been some really nasty tasting blotters
 
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#7 Posted : 2/21/2012 7:07:48 PM
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Lol. Yes, they were pretty bitter. I had to put a few drops on each blotter, then wait for them to dry, then put a few more drops on each blotter, then... In hindsight, it wasn't the best idea, though I didn't have a better one at the time for how to divide up a known quantity of 4-Aco-DMT without having a scale. Any suggestions would be much appreciated, of course. I did think about cutting it with a powder and putting it in capsules, but I don't know how well that works in terms of pill consistency, and I don't know what powder would be best to cut it with (that's research I didn't have time to do at the time).
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#8 Posted : 3/11/2012 9:11:41 AM

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You can't give an estimate on how much you ingested? I've found my sweet spot for this compound to be 42mg, quite intense at this dose. 50mg plus is just too much for me. Very interesting report man, thank you for sharing.
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#9 Posted : 3/11/2012 3:52:50 PM

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hixidom wrote:
Lol. Yes, they were pretty bitter. I had to put a few drops on each blotter, then wait for them to dry, then put a few more drops on each blotter, then... In hindsight, it wasn't the best idea, though I didn't have a better one at the time for how to divide up a known quantity of 4-Aco-DMT without having a scale. Any suggestions would be much appreciated, of course. I did think about cutting it with a powder and putting it in capsules, but I don't know how well that works in terms of pill consistency, and I don't know what powder would be best to cut it with (that's research I didn't have time to do at the time).


I see no reason to cut it with powder to put it in a capsule. Is it not already a powder?
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hixidom
#10 Posted : 3/11/2012 10:48:52 PM
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Yes it was already a powder, but 10 hits of 4-Aco is still only a pinch of powder. Also, the powder came in a small ziploc bag, so I think I would've lost a significant amount of powder to the corners of the bag had I not gone the route of dissolving it and sucking it out with an eyedropper.
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#11 Posted : 7/15/2012 3:48:44 AM

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yeah I tried a high dose of 4-aco-dmt also and it was exactly the same as vaping DMT , I had entities and all it was insane
 
 
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