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Best way to get down a bunch of powdered cacti? Options
 
behindthelight
#1 Posted : 11/24/2011 4:50:53 PM
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So, this is 3 feet of San Pedro that was cut up, dried and then powdered.
I would like to do all of it, but it looks pretty challenging to get all of this down.

Someone mention taking some of the powder and adding some water which will make it "gummy" and then roll them into balls and swallow them.

I don't really want to make a "tea" out of it, because it taste so horrible.

Capsules don't work because you would have to take like 150 of them.

Any other tricks?

 

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#2 Posted : 11/24/2011 5:32:29 PM

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I'd do any alcohol extraction on it. It takes some time but it will cut down the amount you need to take by 10. I just take what is left from the alcohol extraction, evaporate it down, and gel cap that.
 
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#3 Posted : 11/24/2011 5:40:58 PM

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just simmer it in a mug or 2 of water and lemon juice, pinch nose, and neck the lot-then chase with oj. It's not too bad after all if you dont smell it. JUST DO IT!!Very happy
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#4 Posted : 11/24/2011 7:11:34 PM
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actualfactual wrote:
I'd do any alcohol extraction on it. It takes some time but it will cut down the amount you need to take by 10. I just take what is left from the alcohol extraction, evaporate it down, and gel cap that.


What "tek" should I look for if I want to do an alcohol extraction?
 
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#5 Posted : 11/24/2011 7:12:41 PM
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christian wrote:
just simmer it in a mug or 2 of water and lemon juice, pinch nose, and neck the lot-then chase with oj. It's not too bad after all if you dont smell it. JUST DO IT!!Very happy


lol.........I might be doing this......thanks.
 
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#6 Posted : 11/24/2011 7:18:31 PM

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knocking it back as soupy shots works.

Be prepared for a surprise next time you use the bathroom though... (not trying to be unnecessarily gross...btu last time I went with this route of administration, my friends and I all laughed about how fast the cactus exited)

I agree you should just just consume the powder....youve really been working hard for this experience.

But, until you have a good strong cactus... my opinion is that an extraction is necessary. PLus, its fun to do and your house will smell like oranges.

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#7 Posted : 11/24/2011 7:49:06 PM

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behindthelight wrote:

What "tek" should I look for if I want to do an alcohol extraction?


The alcohol extraction is simple.

-Soak the powdered cactus in a strong alcohol such as Everclear (190proof). Use just enough to cover the powder plus an inch or more in a jar that you can shake up.

-Shake it periodically throughout the day. Every 24 hrs drain off the alcohol and set it aside. Continue this process untill the color is no longer changing, and it pours off clear.

-Combine the extractions into one tub and evaporate the alcohol using low heat or a fan. You're left with a thick tar like substance that contains the alkaloids.

I'd do at least 4 pulls on it.
 
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#8 Posted : 11/24/2011 8:06:41 PM

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Be prepared for a surprise next time you use the bathroom though...


- i disagree, On an empty stomach, drink ginger tea, thyen gulp down the thick green liquid. If you have a strong gut, it won't go thru you at all, its not so bad.

- Just watch out for the DIZZYNESS that follows as it comes on, it can be tough at times. A tough teacher indeed!!Cool
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#9 Posted : 11/24/2011 8:16:55 PM

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well... I'll certainly try ginger next time... but even on a small dose worth of powder.... the sheer speed of the exit is exhilarating. Way faster than expected.

I don't mean the time it takes to get through the system. I mean the actual exodus. sonic barrier type stuff

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#10 Posted : 11/24/2011 10:06:05 PM

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Best way for me is adding water and making it gummy as you say then swallowing large dollops of it, you can get it so you hardly taste it, sometimes if I taste it it can give me nausea, specially if I wretch, but if I dont taste much of it I can be fine, used to take me a long time to consume cactus until I started doing it that way.
 
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#11 Posted : 11/24/2011 11:06:32 PM
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Well, I gotta get this down....definitely hoping to have a good experience out of this. Thanks for the help.
 
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#12 Posted : 11/24/2011 11:46:19 PM

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They say, one with a pure heart will not tatse it. I like to just make a tea and tip it back. I'm not into sipping so one idea is to make the tea and then boil it down to a manageable amount. Half a cup isn't really that difficult to get down. I am not a fan of the taste, but the tea just seems to work so well. I've tried eating the cactus, but quickly gave up.
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#13 Posted : 11/30/2011 5:03:51 PM

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my preference regarding how to eat the cactus is simple

a foot equates to ~10 grams dried outer green flesh...
these 10 grams have about 700 mg mesc/alkaloids ( t bridgesii )

1 foot is a good place to start
1.5 feet is a good entry level understanding of the spirit
2 feet is self healing and learning the language of the spirit
3 feet is total entheogenisis

to acquire this

1. de-spine
2. de-skin
3. collect the outer 4-5mm of green flesh (i find the core/white area to emetic)
4. dry these green flesh "filets" without/low heat (never above 150, from my experience)
5. powder the dried filets
6. rehydrate the powdered filets with minimal water, just enough to make paste balls the size of marbles
7. having fasted for ~18 hours, without any sugar intake!, and it the time of day being sunset, ingest the desired amount of these malleable- mescal- marble- globs, by flushing them down your throat with minimal calorie free liquid (no more than 6oz for any dose, more liquid increases emetic possibility and reduces absorption)
8. lay down / be seated for 2 hours until you can A. burp comfortably and B. flex your abdomen safely/do a few sit ups (this is to make sure you've ingested it enough so the alkaloids are absorbed and they overpower the nausea of the eating the flesh) if you feel a purge, sit/ lay down on your back and let it pass. ( i urge not to purge, unless you feel called to, not weak and have no other choice )
9. commune with water (ie take a shower or bath SAFELY), use this time to meditate and focus on your body and how you feel)
10. cloth comfortably and have a place ready that can easily be used to trance/snooze if the effects become strong enough
11. do not eat until after the sun rises/ do not drink until the sun rises (unless you feel called to do so, but make sure its around 5 hours in to avoid purging)
12. spend the rest of the day after to integrate your experience and have light snacks available such as fruit and grains to break your fast
13. be sure to apply your newfound understanding to your daily life in such a way others can see that you are a beacon of truth and love
14. remember to not fear the experience nor fear sharing the experience with others, however always exercise caution as to not endanger yourself/others or the opportunity to commune with the spirit of the Achuma.
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#14 Posted : 2/4/2012 3:34:35 AM
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thinking about doing that entire jar tomorrow....not sure if I want to try the gummy ball method or trying to slam it down in some water...hmmmm......not sure.....
 
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#15 Posted : 2/4/2012 10:31:29 AM

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House's cactus resin Tek was by far the simplest method I have used (it's somewhere on the nexus). Then there's Lucid Lemonade's sunflower oil tek (also here somewhere) for a pretty pure alkaloid extraction - this is going to be my next method, it seems quick easy and hassle free.

Other than that you could do a cactus enema. I've heard good things, well as good as things get whit regards to an enema Razz - but the main point is that you don't taste anything.

I used to just eat table spoons and wash down with orange juice, but yeah it's disgusting, and gel caps make my stomach feel terrible so I'd suggest a quick easy tek.

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#16 Posted : 2/4/2012 4:25:19 PM
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PrimalWisdom wrote:
House's cactus resin Tek was by far the simplest method I have used (it's somewhere on the nexus). Then there's Lucid Lemonade's sunflower oil tek (also here somewhere) for a pretty pure alkaloid extraction - this is going to be my next method, it seems quick easy and hassle free.

Other than that you could do a cactus enema. I've heard good things, well as good as things get whit regards to an enema Razz - but the main point is that you don't taste anything.

I used to just eat table spoons and wash down with orange juice, but yeah it's disgusting, and gel caps make my stomach feel terrible so I'd suggest a quick easy tek.

Peace
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Thanks man. Yeah, I am sitting here right now debating on how or if to do it. The first time I tried it, I evaporated 1 foot down and ate the resin. I barely felt anything from that, I'm guessing it was just weak cactus. So now I have 2 feet that has been dried and then powdered in that jar. I definitely want to do the entire jar, I am just not looking forward to trying to get this stuff down.
 
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#17 Posted : 2/4/2012 5:04:06 PM

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a good friend mixes powder with OJ and shoots it. Better get started Smile

good luck broham
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#18 Posted : 2/4/2012 5:07:17 PM
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Madcap wrote:
a good friend mixes powder with OJ and shoots it. Better get started Smile

good luck broham



Hmmmm....that might actually work.........
 
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#19 Posted : 2/4/2012 7:56:32 PM
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Well, I ended up getting about 60% of the jar down....then I quit, I couldn't do anymore. It was brutal. I ended up making the little gummy balls and swallowing them with water. You have to make the balls really small, like the width of a dime. Trying to do the OJ shots is pretty much impossible for me. I tried, but it is so fucking strong, there is no way I could get it down. Well, hopefully this works and I feel something.
 
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I really hope you trip ballsWink

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