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#1 Posted : 2/4/2012 1:29:40 AM

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Do you think mushrooms were the forbidden fruit & do you think mushrooms are spirtually safe to use?Confused
 

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#2 Posted : 2/4/2012 1:32:21 AM

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yup.
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the forbidden fruit was an apple, which had a bite taken out of it.
and steve jobs was the devil.
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First answer...who cares what the forbidden fruit was we live in a world where this doesn't matter in the slightest.
Second...Mushrooms are spiritually and biologically safe to take. They've even been scientifically proven to have positive benefits on both physical and mental health. Time to eat them in a good setting with a good mind set I would say! Also wherever you venture on the mushrooms bring fruit, water, and cannabis.
 
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Also wherever you venture on the mushrooms bring fruit, water, and cannabis.


Nothing like cold delicous water on mushrooms.. I could drink that shit all day.
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#6 Posted : 2/4/2012 2:31:50 AM

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The whole spiritual thing is quite personal (not my thing), so only you can decide, but i'm sure they'll make things far more spiritual than they would be without them.

But if you have it in your mind they are forbidden and bad in anyway that could maybe have a negative effect, if you're into the whole god and biblical thing, if he didn't want you to eat them he wouldn't put them there.
 
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#7 Posted : 2/4/2012 2:33:26 AM

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amnaita muscaria is the forbidden fruit. looks like an apple in younger stages
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#8 Posted : 2/4/2012 6:44:57 AM
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It is true... My favorite fruit is schedule 1 forbidden... Schedule 1 forbidden = the top of my shopping list. You know that's some good fruit!
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Also wherever you venture on the mushrooms bring fruit, water, and cannabis.


Second this. I'd also say ice cubes. Cold and mushrooms are great.
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#10 Posted : 2/4/2012 11:47:16 AM

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Irrespective on ones position on the concept of 'forbidden fruit' as it relates to religion it is unlikely to be a mushroom because in both the Judeo-Christian and Islamic perspectives, the 'forbidden fruit' was borne by, and of a tree.

As to their 'spiritual safety' ,whatever that may mean, the mushroom will aid some users spirtuality and hinder that of others- in the same way that other psychedelics can both potentially benefit and harm different users.
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#11 Posted : 2/4/2012 12:07:28 PM

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No and yes, respectively.
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#12 Posted : 2/4/2012 12:59:00 PM

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I would contend that the forbidden fruit is specifically "language". The way I look at it, Eden was this right-brain oriented wholesome, blissful paradise, but upon acquiring language by eating from the tree of knowledge, they gained the tools to distinguish, describe and label which was their fall from Eden. I don't think people were ever meant to think there was an Adam and Eve, but rather to see the symbolism in their own lives. I believe that eating from the fruit of knowledge describes when we are all right brain oriented babies without language, living in highly innocent, emotional wholesome states, but then they eat the forbidden fruit: they begin to learn language which completely changes everything and creates the beginning of the descent into the material world where objects and their qualities can be isolated and identified, and the child looses touch with its original connection to the divine. If anything, I think the mushroom is somewhat the "anti-forbidden fruit" as it can allow you to return to those similar "Eden-esque" states you experienced as a child.
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spicentheogodmt wrote:
Do you think mushrooms were the forbidden fruit & do you think mushrooms are spirtually safe to use?Confused


You think Adam and Eve once ate from the forbidden fruit and were cast out of heaven by God? I mean many people here are spiritual,but believing that story instead of evolution is really odd in 2012...and anyway the fruit described in that story was most likely a berry
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Irrespective on ones position on the concept of 'forbidden fruit' as it relates to religion it is unlikely to be a mushroom because in both the Judeo-Christian and Islamic perspectives, the 'forbidden fruit' was borne by, and of a tree.






This is mythology we are talking about, everything is symbolic. What is the real differnce in saying "they ate a fruit from a tree" and "they picked a mushroom". The stalk could be "a tree" or the mycelium could be "the tree".

Launguage....lingam....the two words perhaps look a little similiar right?

Now look at your penis. Look at a mushroom. The two objects bear a resemblence, no?

The tree of life, the world tree, the axis mundi, the totem pole, mt sinai, mt olympus, yggdrassil AND MY PENIS. These are all the same thing , mythopoetically speaking. Dissagree? Well, you haven't seen my penis now have you? Just saying, it's a beautiful thing and the ancients felt similiar about theirs too.





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I would contend that the forbidden fruit is specifically "language". The way I look at it, Eden was this right-brain oriented wholesome, blissful paradise, but upon acquiring language by eating from the tree of knowledge, they gained the tools to distinguish, describe and label which was their fall from Eden. I don't think people were ever meant to think there was an Adam and Eve, but rather to see the symbolism in their own lives. I believe that eating from the fruit of knowledge describes when we are all right brain oriented babies without language, living in highly innocent, emotional wholesome states, but then they eat the forbidden fruit: they begin to learn language which completely changes everything and creates the beginning of the descent into the material world where objects and their qualities can be isolated and identified, and the child looses touch with its original connection to the divine. If anything, I think the mushroom is somewhat the "anti-forbidden fruit" as it can allow you to return to those similar "Eden-esque" states you experienced as a child.



Sure the forbidden fruit is launguage. And noone here has forgotten Mckennas theory on how mushrooms may have catylized the development of launguage.
"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods." Albert Einstein

I appreciate your perspective.


 
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#15 Posted : 2/5/2012 3:17:01 AM

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The forbidden fruit WAS indeed the amnita muscaria mushroom (white stem with red and white top). Christianity is based on this mushroom and Jesus Christ is symbolism for this.

If you don't believe me, watch this video until the end and tell me you don't believe it...
I recently stumbled upon this information and it blew my mind.

Pharmacratic Inquisition - Jesus Mushroom

It takes a while to get into the whole thing dealing with the mushrooms, and it talks a lot about astronomy and how it can be related to "christian" events, but totally worth the watch if you have the time! You wont want to stop the video...

Let me know what you guys think!

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#16 Posted : 2/5/2012 3:44:41 AM

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First answer...who cares what the forbidden fruit was we live in a world where this doesn't matter in the slightest.
Second...Mushrooms are spiritually and biologically safe to take. They've even been scientifically proven to have positive benefits on both physical and mental health. Time to eat them in a good setting with a good mind set I would say! Also wherever you venture on the mushrooms bring fruit, water, and cannabis.


i wouldn't say that it 'doesn't matter in the slightest'. christianity has taken a destructive and unspiritual path if you ask me, and a lot of that has to do with people taking the bible so literally and also the way it is now run by middle men who dictate its direction. i would say that it does matter in that once people start realising the nature of the experiences in texts like the bible and the role plants have had to play in those experiences, they will realise that religious experience really is achievable and readily available and doesn't need no middle man
 
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#17 Posted : 2/6/2012 11:28:16 PM

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benzyme wrote:
the forbidden fruit was an apple, which had a bite taken out of it.
and steve jobs was the devil.

hate to nitpick, but scripturally it was a fig. and as some have mentioned there is a strong connection between it and the amanita
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#18 Posted : 2/6/2012 11:52:25 PM

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I don't care if it was a kumquat, steve jobs was still the devil
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I would contend that the forbidden fruit is specifically "language". The way I look at it, Eden was this right-brain oriented wholesome, blissful paradise, but upon acquiring language by eating from the tree of knowledge, they gained the tools to distinguish, describe and label which was their fall from Eden. I don't think people were ever meant to think there was an Adam and Eve, but rather to see the symbolism in their own lives. I believe that eating from the fruit of knowledge describes when we are all right brain oriented babies without language, living in highly innocent, emotional wholesome states, but then they eat the forbidden fruit: they begin to learn language which completely changes everything and creates the beginning of the descent into the material world where objects and their qualities can be isolated and identified, and the child looses touch with its original connection to the divine. If anything, I think the mushroom is somewhat the "anti-forbidden fruit" as it can allow you to return to those similar "Eden-esque" states you experienced as a child.



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#20 Posted : 2/8/2012 2:37:24 AM

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Fig Newtons probably lol. Yea I agree that people take the bible too seriously Imo I think it was altered by the keepers of the knowlege and that psychadelics did play a huge role in the scriptures. I read that in a dmt trip report that this guy had a NDE and talked to the Maker and It said that mushrooms we're the forbidden fruit but it is ok to partake but can just as easily cause greater delusion because it caused the delusion in the first place. And i take the dmt realm seriously like with respect and interpreting it into human reality and believe it to be the Divine communicating or interacting with us on many levels through many entities ect. bcause we are all one. hope the makes sense.

Anywho just like all your opinons.
 
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