Oh I though 5 or 6 of them would do the job... Should I just buy a scrubber and burn it to see if there is any nasty stuff on it?

I think I'll stick with the multiple screens...
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=133102#post133102

Use more screens like 8-10 of them or ,and this is what I suggest to you is, get copper mesh - its the best

I guess the best way to know it's to try it myself...
Many thanks

and then let us know

dante, Please don't waste your spice. You would have to inhale extremely slow for it to work. Get the foolproof mesh and don't waste your spice. At least it was a total waste for me. I'm sure if you want to have perfect method, you will be getting mesh(preferrably copper) sooner or later anyway.

I've heard very mixed opinions on this. Some people swear by stacked screens, other people say it's a waste. It seems like trying it out for oneself with one's particular "hardware" would make sense.

Well depends on the pipe(probably). But with VG and GVG it's a total waste in my experience, also leaf bed and liquid pad(volcano) didn't work out in my experience. Copper mesh is the way to go, only 3mm thickness is needed and even 45mg won't melt through.

From what I've read majority of users fail with screens in the GVG.

Exactly, Ill try it first with the screens and then Ill see if it requires the mesh. From where Im from they would say that I have a 'head of wood'
Thank you my friends

Just wondering has anyone used a prepaid credit card to order a GVG who lives internationally (outside the USA)?
- if so what type?
(as the vaporgenie site says this is a feasible option but doesnt give a specific type)

Has anyone sent cash in the mail to order one (if i go with this im going to use registered mail)?

Thanks,

The Dude

Update: So registered mail worked... However, it sat at the post office for ~ a month before they (VG staff) picked up the letter/order.

I sent cash in envelope. But if you do, make sure it's registered and express letter.

I got quite desperate last night operating my classic VG with spice. It's my first time and I didn't get any results attempting 20-40mg doses three times. I put around 6 screens in the pipe and then for the first two attempts I laid small amount of "herbs" on the bottom of the bowl and put the spice on top of it. Third time I used the spice alone.

Each time I started with putting the flame above the ceramic filter like it's supposed to be and then began to inhale as slow as I could. When the smoke got too dense I inhaled a bit faster towards the end for total of around 6-8 seconds inhaling. Then I hold the smoke inside as long as I could (about 10+ seconds) and exhaled very small amount of this light smoke. I repeated this for 3-4 times per load without really feeling anything, until I couldn't see anything in the bowl anymore.

Some say that it's quite hard to vaporize spice at first, which I definitely start to believe, but where am I going wrong that badly?

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thanks and i love you

Your screens.

Scrubber mesh, such as copper chore boy works best.
Also torch lighter is very important tool

Thank you, I appreciate your help loads! I'll see if I can find something similar to that copper chore boy at my local hardware store.

If not, you can order it on ebay.
Altough stainless steel scrubbers are available in many places, for example where you can buy kitchen supplies.

Don't underestimate the VP! Just got my first good hit off mine. Took a few misfires to get the technique down right. But all I can say is... WOW

What can I say??? The GVG and the Arc are the best things I bought in a looong time! The vapor is so smooth!! Perfect for a non-smoker like me.
The screens seem to do their job, I just piled eight of them and it worked perfectly. I'm still wondering what I'm trying to prevent though... Would the DMT melt down the hole if all the screens or the copper weren't in place?
Anyway, I love this magic tool! I just have to improve my technique and I'll be able to breakthrough in one big hit

Yes indeed! With insufficient screens or mesh acting as a filter, liquified DMT drips down into the neck of the pipe before it has a chance to vaporize.