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#1 Posted : 1/31/2012 6:00:26 PM

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My previous thread about my recent experiences was dismantled due to misinterpretations of the nature of the experiences (or the state of my mentality surrounding them).

Basically (and I know It sounds weird to make such light-talk of it) - the mushroom entity is some sort of entity which can control some elements of this time-space. He's abducted me with this potential. I hear words coming from him (destiny) and "allah" (apparently the DMT entity) 24/7 or at least without more than a 10 minute gap. It's mostly meaningless crap (but often very witty; intelligent and synchronistic. Also torturous. Excuse is - he's installing some new equipment for our messed up cyclic reincarnation species. Some sort of language which works with pure meaning (or similar) and new awareness to the masses eventually etc... but who knows how happy (very vague and doesn't give me enthusiasm towards what they are (weird cycles eh?) we'll be with it lol...

Anyhow - I've been thinking after reflecting on MXE experiences that my experiences (and many others) contradict the theory that it is only certain plant molecules that have contact equipment embedded in the chemical arrangement. Very strong tryptamine like imagery with obvious outer-worldliness comes by on occasion. An example would be a strange mechanical dismembered woman standing in a deserted wasteland doing some mechanical dancing saying some strange nursery rhyme repetitively.

Might make some people think that the DMT entity (weird thing) which does the DMT experiences is actually in our head creating our own experiences. MXE is so great in that it's like a picklock for the brain - it enables the entity to wire us up with wacky experiences and this accounts for the flexibility of it's effects (which is stated by many others to happen - and many account for it by saying its a different batch from the vendor).

During my on-going abduction by these things - they've said that allah (dmt thing) is what creates our experiences of reality and pushes us through time. So being adept at life (or getting lucky) is perhaps interacting with this thing in an admirable fashion...

Admire any type of comments... I've just been unconsciously inclined towards posting this here...

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#2 Posted : 1/31/2012 6:23:48 PM

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Stay far away from MXE, kids.
 
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#3 Posted : 2/1/2012 1:29:37 AM

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yeah the train of your thought seems convoluted and tangled here... it's a little hard to follow.

one doesn't have to believe every message or 'insight' one gets in the dissociative space...

i personally find the association between DMT & 'Allah' to be rather bizarre, it does not resonate well with me.

the 'strange dismembered mechanical woman speaking nonsense nursery rhymes in a wasteland' seems to be an image of discombobulation, fragmentation, disintegration, useless absurdity, etc... nothing auspicious or desirable.
 
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#4 Posted : 2/1/2012 10:01:17 AM

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A few points:

1) The tone and subject matter of this post is likely to get it some unwelcome gazes. You might have more luck with this if you use less absolute language when speaking about very subjective experiences... ones which many people (a majority) are bound to take issue with no less.

2) Sadly, MXE, RC's, and Disso's generally are somewhat frowned upon by many senior people here at the Nexus. There is rationale to some of this, and either way, this is not the focus of the site. The fact that the "Discouraged Drug Policy" was scaled back to even allow discussion of MXE was a touch and go thing last year.

3) MXE is quite variable in its effects, but IME there are some rather profound differences between each of the batches of the stuff I have come across. This is bourne out by the fact that within each batch (order) the experiences were very similar in their dissimilar range, and when a new batch would come around it was immediately noticeable to all who sampled it that something was different. This is kind of freaky when considering that this RC is marketed as being 99.9% pure or whatever, and should be nearly chemically identical every time it is ordered. The first time this batch change situation came around I contacted the vendor and was told that there is often a difference in texture consistency and reports from batch to batch and that the new one he sent was getting better reviews (less complaints) than the previous one... though I and my friends were torn on which we prefered. (the earlier one being noticeably more euphoric and mood-elevating, but having more annoying stimulation and increasing tinnitus the morning after)

This inconsistency in materials and effects draws one to induce that the actual chemical composition of this already untested substance is somewhat unlikely to be trustworthy. The fact that it is made in unaccountable labs in China & India also gives plenty of sketchy food for thought. As I said, every single batch I have seen of this stuff has been somewhat different (with the latest one coming back around again to the semblance and effects of the very first).

If the stuff wasn't so damn useful and fun, as well as being clearly easier on the mind and body than any of the other dissos I could compare it to (DXM, Ketamine etc.)... I might gravitate towards house's stance. But the fact remains, that this chemical (in spite of its diversity) has been amazingly helpful to a large number of people. It may be the most therapeutic substance around at the moment for people who are not actaully ready for the true psychedelic experience. People who repeatedly freak out when confronted with traditional psychs, and of whom one would be asking for trouble to give them spice, have time & again responded extremely well to MXE and universally felt their experiences to have been very beneficial. Even for us old war horses who can handle heroic doses of Aya without any issue and only blissful journeys... MXE is profoundly useful. It simply is the easiest disso to deal with ATM, even edging out Nitrous, Iboga, Voacanga and others. Even if you consider harmalas to be dissociative at high doses (which I do), MXE doesn't run the risk of serious bodily harm when combined with relatively small amounts of the wrong thing, as even the safest RIMA's do.

To wrap this up, I would like to ask ۩ directly: What exactly is your problem with MXE other than the ones I discussed above?

This is not asked in a snide manner, but genuinely curious as to if you have some information about its negative physical or cognitive effects that the rest of us do not. It would be a service to all of us here who have & will play with this novel material if you enlightened us. If it is just your opinion, you might want to consider making that clear in the various threads and chat sessions I have seen you chime in ominously on. There are plenty of drugs that I don't personally like and recommend against (highly concentrated salvia extracts come to mind), but I tend to make it clear that this is just my opinion and that I have no evidence that the use of such substance will cause any irreparable damage to one's body or mind.

Be well all,
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#5 Posted : 2/1/2012 5:42:19 PM

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I can´t speak for house but as a mxe liking guy my problem with mxe is that it´s to damn good.

In lower doses i can behave so noone would notice that i´m on something, i can sleep very good on it and at sub hole doses there is little to no hangover.

These are great traits for a drug but makes it a bit to easy to do it when you shouldnt.

So far i have kept it on a responsible level which i´m glad for, but alot of people seem to have problem doing that which is sad.

Most likely it will get banned everywhere sometime this year but i have the feeling mxe is gonna stick around anyway.
 
 
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