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#141 Posted : 8/26/2011 4:43:11 PM
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Hey, I'm new to the forum and just wanted to check something.
I was reading the lazymantek and just wanted to check if these chemicals where ok to use.

Bartoline Premium Low Odour White Spirit 2L from B&Q (UK)
Boots own brand caustic soda. (UK)

Sorry if this has been asked before, there is a lot of info on this site and I thought this would be the easiest way to get the clearest answer.

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#142 Posted : 8/26/2011 4:58:37 PM

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XNeuro wrote:

Bartoline Premium Low Odour White Spirit 2L from B&Q (UK)
Boots own brand caustic soda. (UK)



I imagine the caustic soda would be fine.

Stay away from that white spirit. It's near impossible to dry out your spice efficently after contact with this stuff.

Get some store bought lighter fluid for refillable lighters (not aerosol).
 
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#143 Posted : 9/30/2011 3:22:01 AM

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Hey guys,

The "Harmine Crystals from Syrian Rue" tek I intend to use calls for methyl or ethly alcohol. I could find only Methyl Ethyl Ketone. Would this work? I've searched but haven't seen an answer anywhere, but please let me know if I overlooked something. MSDS leaves me baffled.

EDIT: I found this tek as well, and it seems to suggest this would be ok! Anyone know more certainly?

Thank you kindly.
 
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#144 Posted : 9/30/2011 7:48:46 PM

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Why not a simple A/B without solvents, and filtering the alkaloids? Check our wiki for more rue teks, like harmala extraction guide, or Tao of rue,

MEK is even less polar than acetone, and acetone is already a horrible solvent for harmalas, dont use that
 
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#145 Posted : 10/1/2011 1:11:18 AM

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endlessness wrote:
Why not a simple A/B without solvents, and filtering the alkaloids? Check our wiki for more rue teks, like harmala extraction guide, or Tao of rue,

MEK is even less polar than acetone, and acetone is already a horrible solvent for harmalas, dont use that


You're right. I was afraid all the other tek's called for lye which is hard to find here. Turns out the Harmala extraction guide that I overlooked and you mentioned only needs sodium carbonate. It seems much more complicated than the one which calls for ethyl/methyl, but it's probably worth it.

Thank you for your patient response.
 
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#146 Posted : 10/5/2011 3:14:57 PM

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I searched the site and couldn't find if anyone had posted a link to this site?

http://fuel.papo-art.com/

It lists the international fuel names for substances, column 3 is probably of most interest.
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#147 Posted : 10/18/2011 6:53:27 PM

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has anyone ever tried Barrettine white spirit NAPHTHA (PETROLEUM),HYDRODESULFURIZED HEAVY Content >98%.....i know someone mentioned to not use white spirits but im not sure if that was in general or just the particular brand??... also the heavy doesn't sit well with me not sure why... any advice back would be greatly appreciated.i didnt buy it yet to do an evap test until i can find more info. its difficult to find certain things in ireland.

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#148 Posted : 10/19/2011 8:30:06 PM

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Does anyone know what to use for lye and solvent in Spain?

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#149 Posted : 10/19/2011 10:46:31 PM

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Look for solvent section in the hardware store, read labels, also when you get home look up "brandname MSDS" in google, and let us know what you can find so we can advise you. Also in bigger cities there could be chemical/lab supply stores.

Nafta, hexano, heptano, solvente alifático, etc, words like these are what you should be looking for.

Or for the other chemicals, lye would be Soda Caustica, or Hidróxido de Sódio.. It could be in the cleaning aisle of supermarkets or hardware stores. Lye is alse used sometimes for olive conserving.

If you want to do the dry teks you would use Hidróxido de Calcio as a base.

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#150 Posted : 11/4/2011 3:19:30 PM
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SimplePsyman wrote:
has anyone ever tried Barrettine white spirit NAPHTHA (PETROLEUM),HYDRODESULFURIZED HEAVY Content >98%.....i know someone mentioned to not use white spirits but im not sure if that was in general or just the particular brand??... also the heavy doesn't sit well with me not sure why... any advice back would be greatly appreciated.i didnt buy it yet to do an evap test until i can find more info. its difficult to find certain things in ireland.

thanks in advance


called up Barrettine today, they say its 99.9% pure naphtha, did an evap test and it seems ok, im doing a small 25g extraction today to make sure befoe using it for more, ill let you know
 
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#151 Posted : 11/10/2011 9:08:04 PM

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stalepixel wrote:

called up Barrettine today, they say its 99.9% pure naphtha, did an evap test and it seems ok, im doing a small 25g extraction today to make sure befoe using it for more, ill let you know


Hey Man, Thanks... Any joy with it???...I think ill get some aswell if they say its that pure...seems like the best option at the moment...
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#152 Posted : 11/12/2011 8:22:47 PM

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SWIM took a while to figure out what naphta is outside of the states, more precise, which one is okay to use in germany, due to there are lots of different mixtures and solvents, a lot not suitable for SWIM.

Because SWIM never found a direct tip around here or somewhere else in the net,
here are some tested advices from SWIM that might help interested people in Germany.



Useful Naphta-Equivalents (clean and work great) to be found in Germany:



- all kinds of Wundbenzin, though they are mostly bought in pharmacies (but for everybody, eg. for a paintjob). Thats the hyperclean version by german standards of naphta, ment to be suitable for pharmaceutical grade jobs.

- Waschbenzin, not the hyperclean standard as wundbenzin, but with the right brand very very good and suitable, admits SWIM.
a brand that SWIM advices is E-COLL Waschbenzin, over and over very good and clean.



Might be a little help for searches out of the US, with best regards by SWIM!
 
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#153 Posted : 1/5/2012 9:50:25 PM

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pandelis wrote:

- Waschbenzin, not the hyperclean standard as wundbenzin, but with the right brand very very good and suitable, admits SWIM.
a brand that SWIM advices is E-COLL Waschbenzin, over and over very good and clean.


We have the same thing here in the Netherlands.
Its called wasbenzine in Dutch.
Its one carbon longer than heptane, its octane.
Very clean white pulls.
 
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#154 Posted : 1/12/2012 11:16:32 PM
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Is there a definative list of UK available tried and tested materials that can be purchased cash on the high street?
Edit: I am thinking specifically for Noman's Tek.
 
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#155 Posted : 1/12/2012 11:34:39 PM

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Gerry wrote:
Is there a definative list of UK available tried and tested materials that can be purchased cash on the high street?
Edit: I am thinking specifically for Noman's Tek.


For naphtha I was using lighter fluid. Swan, ronsonol and newport are all clean. For lye just go to b&q or a hardware shop and look for caustic soda, I think even boots sell it. All the other bits and pieces (separatory funnel, rubber spatula and stuff) I dont know, I never used any of that stuff.

Btw, I think the consensus is that an ammonia wash is bad/inefficient. Search the forum about it, might be worth just skipping that step.
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#156 Posted : 1/13/2012 6:12:50 PM
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PhOG wrote:
Gerry wrote:
Is there a definative list of UK available tried and tested materials that can be purchased cash on the high street?
Edit: I am thinking specifically for Noman's Tek.


For naphtha I was using lighter fluid. Swan, ronsonol and newport are all clean. For lye just go to b&q or a hardware shop and look for caustic soda, I think even boots sell it. All the other bits and pieces (separatory funnel, rubber spatula and stuff) I dont know, I never used any of that stuff.

Btw, I think the consensus is that an ammonia wash is bad/inefficient. Search the forum about it, might be worth just skipping that step.



Thanks PhOG. Hopefully all set up for my first go in the next week or so.
 
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#157 Posted : 1/19/2012 5:52:33 AM
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hey guys. im up here in canada and wondering if someone can check over this MSDS for me. escourt camp fuel doesnt seem like its sold any more

i found this white gas/fuel at home hardware

http://msds.homehardware...File.asp?s=87645&v=5

theres colemans but its green in color and herd some stories

thanks in advance
 
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#158 Posted : 1/25/2012 7:46:23 PM
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very hard to find mek where i'm from and have come across this http://msds.duluxgroup.c...cds-010-000000017018.pdf

it says 99% mek, so i assume it would be find to use but it is red in colour would that have any affect on it at all.

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#159 Posted : 1/28/2012 9:44:05 PM

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was wondering what types of naptha is a preferred naptha product.

any and all help is appreciated
 
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#160 Posted : 1/28/2012 10:02:37 PM

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hey Bongin, Klean-Strip VM&P Naphtha is nice.
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