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Is Mimosa tea orally active without a MAOI? Options
 
Z E D
#1 Posted : 1/10/2009 7:02:27 PM

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SWIM had read somewhere but can't post the reference about the possible presence of beta-carbolines on MHRB and about significant absortion of the mimosa tea sublingualy...

Well some Brazilian cults mix mimosa tea with alcohol and the effects related are entheogen-like (hallucinations, possession by spirits, conversation with ancestors etc). Some say that the alcohol excess and set and setting could explain this but...
 

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#2 Posted : 1/10/2009 7:03:38 PM

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Is Mimosa tea orally active without a MAOI?


Yes. A brew of 30g of Mimosa h. roots is active alone.
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#3 Posted : 1/10/2009 7:07:55 PM

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are the effects much different from caapi vs. mimosa? if yes, then how?
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#4 Posted : 1/10/2009 7:10:52 PM
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Has to be a COLD water infusion. And 30 gr is not that spectacular.
It's like very weak ayahuasca. I didn't notice any difference.
 
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#5 Posted : 1/10/2009 7:20:29 PM

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why it has to be a cold water infusion?

Are you talking about that of the column? Why it can't be HOT?

And how does it have to be consumed to be active?
 
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#6 Posted : 1/10/2009 7:39:43 PM

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50g is pretty amazing!
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#7 Posted : 1/10/2009 8:50:43 PM

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how long did it last
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#8 Posted : 1/10/2009 9:50:30 PM

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Z E D wrote:
why it has to be a cold water infusion?

Are you talking about that of the column? Why it can't be HOT?

And how does it have to be consumed to be active?


A hot water extraction would probably pull out more actives, but too hot and the percolator column might buckle sideways, Out goes the water (I have used a narrower tube). There's also Hummingbird's tek using 20/1 of acidified water and plant material which is soaked over a couple of days then boiled down.

Last time that was attempted, an hour or so of activity peaking around 30min. I'm a little curious about a x2 dose though..
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#9 Posted : 1/11/2009 1:16:23 AM

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lol, SWIM must try it, making the percolator column is going to be funny ^^

how much MHRB did your friend used coz42?

is it orally because of beta-carbolines that theorically exist in MHRB or because sublingual absorption?
 
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#10 Posted : 1/11/2009 5:40:41 AM

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He used 50g of powder too from a reliable source, but as far as I know, it could be the kokusaginine (Which I'm still not convinced that this actually exists, as well as many other RIMA's and MAOI-A's), the yuremamine, or even any other unkown traces present causing oral/sublingual inhibition..

It's still striking to me now what actually happened that day, but there's definitely something very special going on in that plantCool
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